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ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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Sharkopath posted:

They didn't get the KTM license for the show though... I wanna see a superduke.

Would the axis triumvirate be complete with an Austrian bike maker or German bike maker????


Here mine.


My helmet has the feelings I have about this anime.

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ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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Post ur bieks

My first one a 1983 Suzuki GS650GL, good learner bike but made me hate naked bikes.


Second bike a 2000 Kawasaki ZRX 1100 went like WHOA fast and I though this was going to be my BFF (biek friend forever). Then the engine exploded earlier this year.

I already posted my third one, so have the review i posted over at CA.

ElMaligno posted:



3 week review of a former rental 35k miles 2014 F700GS
The good:
If you loving told me two months ago that I would be driver a german bike, and one that was a loving weenie compared to my mighty ZRX I would have laughed and laughed at you and calling a loving oval office for suggesting that. After all I would ride that thing until my dying breath or its dying breath.

And of loving course it died, shinny and chrome and on its way to become a stuntbike in mad max heaven


And so the search of a new bike was on low and high I searched. Asked in here and read reviews everywhere. But i'm not here to recount the story of how I found it, but instead i'm going to tell you in an objective fashion why this is a good bike.

It runs.

However subjectively I loving love this bike, its lighter, its engine is big enough to feel peppy and it loves to ride at 5k-5.5k RPM in sixth gear. Now that it has a touring windshield I don't feel like I am paragliding, the new seat feels like a seat instead of a loving cinder block, the suspension feels nice and it handles really loving good. Like on my commute the ZRX felt clunky and sometimes even dangerous, gently caress i even dumped it on one of the hairpin turns to work. I feel confident driving it and its a nice drat feeling to have.

Oh and its averaging 50MPG, 20 more than the ZRX. The savings are offset by the fact that I use premium fuel innit. The ABS brakes, EFI and heated grips are a nice cherry on top.

The bad:
The standard windshield (BMW has 3, this model comes with the smallest) and the standard seat are abysmal as gently caress and whoever designed them are loving nazis...

Wait gently caress.

I mean they are loving horrible spergs of engineers who have no notion of human anatomy and just designed something quick in autocad before going back to their model trains.

That's better.

I have a love hate relationship with the acoustics of the bike. It sounds like its trying its damnedest to be a sneaky, sausage eating ninja. While the imga is hilarious it loving sucks when i'm driving in a tunnel, give it a little gas and I dont hear poo poo. On the other hand I gotta go to work at 5AM if I work in the mornings or get back at 7AM if I am working graveyard shift. So the bike being reasonably quiet pays off in not being ashamed of its noise.

Overall if you want a motorcycle to commute, light touring and has a little bit of brains and brawn I would recommend this motorcycle. Just dont take the fourth reich...

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

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Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Those bikes are cool. How expensive are bikes? They look expensive.

Depending on where you live and what you want a used starter motorcycle can go from 1000 to 3000. We are talking about beat-up 250-650cc 1980s motorcycles to more modern 250-650cc. The Suzuki was about 1300 and the Kawasaki was 3000, I got both in the east coast NH/ME. The BMW was about 8000 which was cheap, but it has 35k miles and was a former rental motorcycle.

I will also forever make fun of anyone who gets a ZX14 as their first bikes because of this manga.

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ElMaligno Motorcycle knowledge for idiots

Whats a CC? CC or Cubic Centimeters is a unit measuring the engine displacement. The displacement can also give you a really rough estimate of the motorcycle performance, like a 250cc could be a beginner motorcycle, a 650cc a middleweight, while a liter (1000cc) is usually a heavyweight fast bike.
Overall I would classify in the following weight/displacement classes

Ultra lightweight From 1cc to 249cc

Yamaha DT50R


Honda GROM
This class is mostly dominated by scooters, mopeds, motorcross and microbikes. Also probably the most numerous class out there as they are extremely cheap to buy, maintain and are extremely popular in countries where cars are expensive as hell. Good motorcycles if your commute is short and in a city.

Lightweight From 250cc to 650cc

A pre-gen Kawasaki Ninja 250


Suzuki SV650S
The meat and potatoes of beginners motorcycles, also when the number of CCs kinda stops being an indicator of performance. A Ninja 650R is going to be really tamed compared to a Ninja ZX-6R. Most 250cc motorcycle are excellent beginner bikes and some 650cc are also excellent beginners motorcycles, the SV650 being one of them.

Middleweight - 651cc to 800-999cc (depending on the bike)


Suzuki GSXR 750


BMW F800R
Not really recommended for beginners as they usually have more power than the previous classes also its where the correlation of CC to power just looses all its meaning. In my opinion the sweet spot class as you can still get a decent lightweight motorcycle with decent fuel economy and a good amount of naughtiness. Also i didn't want to add a second Suzuki but the GSXR 750 is the perennial middleweight sportbike, so :shrug:

Heavyweight - 1000cc up


Triumph Rocket III


Ducati Panigale R
Welcome to the big leagues gently caress boy if you are living in the USA you can buy one of this bad boy straight out of getting your motorcycle licence and then crash the bike because you are a know nothing fuckboi. Some of them are built light and for speed, some of them are build for torques and long distance, some of them achieve a middle ground of both. Get some experience driving something smaller before you get here

Ultra Heavyweight - CC is just a number babe


Dodge Tomahawk
8000cc and 500HP. You dont want it.

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Dec 31, 2004

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Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Hmm, a couple thousand dollar doesn't seem too bad.

Ya also gotta budget for a Motorcycle safety course or whatever motorcycle safety school is available in your country and also budget for gear. Some gear is OK getting used as long as they haven't been crashed. Always buy helmets new and never used.

Blhue posted:

alternatively: realize you're a dumb and stop doing that


Unlike her I am being 100% sincere in this.
Source: I live in California bay area and it rained today. So I rode my motorcycle to work.

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ElMaligno Motorcycle knowledge for idiots

On gear and protecting your bits from looking like ground beef
Unlike cars riding motorcycles carry some additional risk, mainly you are exposed to the elements and if you crash/lowside/hiside the laws of physics are going to make mincemeat out of you. So being proactive about wearing your gear and knowing what to use.



A Dainese Leather jacket
Leather Gear
Good: Made from (hopefully) real thick leather offers the highest slide protection, as well as being really good insulator, naturally rain resistant, fashionable as gently caress.
Bad: Stiff when new, really lovely if they use synth leather or thin/fashion leather, can be hot unless you use perforated leather, heavy.


A Revit Textile Jacket
Textile Gear
Good: Second in class when it comes to sliding protection, various colors, various varieties, can be treatable to be more rain proof, more breathable, etc.
Bad: One crash and you may need to buy one.


A Alpinestars Mesh Jacket
Mesh Gear
Good: Extremely breathable, cheap.
Bad: Poor slide performance, if you crash if you gonna need to buy a new one.

Rain/Cold Gear
Depending on where you live you might want to eventually invest in Rain Gear, essentially rain proof layer you put over your Jacket/pants, or maybe even 4 season gear with included rain proof layers. To beat the cold you have the options of layering up, using a balaclava on your helmet, heated gear (gear with heat elements that connect to your motorcycle electrical system) and heated grips.

One vs Two pieces
One Piece suits offer more protection as there are less stress points where the gear will fail, but they are awkward to put on, are more expensive and can come in award sizes. Two pieces are cheaper, easier to get on and off and are easier to find the proper size, they offer less protection on the pants/jacket connection point.


Helmets
A good helmet is not only comfortable it will also save your life. Anything sub-$200 should be fine as long as its DOT and/or ECE and/or Snell certified, anything above that and its mostly going to offer creature comfort.


A Shoei Helmet
Full - Most protective, can be heavy and expensive.


A Nolan Helmet
Modular - Almost as protective and full helmets, heavier and more expensive.


A Shark Helmet
Open Face - Can be cheaper, offers less protection, hope you like bugs innya face.


A Bell Helmet
Half-helmet - lol no


A Masei helmet
Gimmick - I would totes get a black/red one to cosplay as a Pilot. But never get a gimmick helmet.


Nice

Ville Valo posted:

I wish Honda sold more naked bikes in the US.


:getin:

In Training posted:

Big engines are cool

Concept motorcycles are also cool.

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Ville Valo posted:

This is currently what I'm considering getting myself for a birthday/lifegoals self-gift. How terrible is it for a newbie / 405 commuting? The Rebel looks great but isn't going to cut it at freeway speeds I fear.

If ya havent ridden a bike in a while and you feel a liter would kill you a CB500F might be what you want


If you don't care about what make of bike ya get, an SV650N might be better and cheaper


As for commuting the California, I commute in the Bay area and my F700GS is narrow enough to filter comfortably. Might be different down in LA...

Anyways I also wanna let ya jamokes know that there is a Cycle Asylum forums where they can answer more questions of what ya wanna get,

a kitten posted:

ATGATT

I'm worried for the motorcycle clubs safety.

They are too idiotic to die.

ElMaligno
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To be loving honest as long as you are safe and ultra aware of your surroundings riding motorcycles is fine and safe. There is this video of a British guy going almost 100 mph, driving recklessly and then collided with a car, high sided and died on the spot.

So please drive safely and have fun.

The Devil Tesla posted:

Moms are very powerful

This is true, my mom always tries to guilt trip me into quitting driving. I always have to reassure her that I safety is always a priority.

Also LOL if you are a grown rear end man living on your own and let your parents dictate your life.

staplegun posted:

safety is for idiots

In case you are being serious: gently caress YOU



Im a safe idiot :colbert:

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Sharkopath posted:

Or in extreme cases: Armored Maid Uniforms.

I am an armored glowstick, maybe senpai will finally notice me?


Waffleman_ posted:

Giraffes don't cry because they know how to persevere.

Be strong like a giraffe, thread.

Edit: Okay, whoa, dark. I got swerved.

I also got dunked on that part.

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Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Are Suzukis really that bad? Are Suzukis really that bad?

Most Japanese motorcycles are quite good and reliable. They are on point on ducatis though.

unless you are talking about Suzuki, then yes she is p. bad.

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Sharkopath posted:

I dunno if its still true but you needed specialized proprietary only for ducati tools to do engine work too, and the engines themselves had a lower service life than most other bikes.

Ducatis are not the only motorcycles who needs weird and/or proprietary tools. KTMs and Aprillias need almost constant shim clearance checks. BMW oil filters need a specialty tool if ya want to take them out, and I have to buy one of this to remove the oil plug.

A 10mm hex bit for my torque wrench because all my allen wrenches where too small.


Hayabusas are OK bikes if you commute on highways a lot but suck if you do city commuting. Also they are no longer the fastest bikes.
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