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Kytrarewn posted:That annoyed me a little bit at first, but I can't even imagine how I would react in a similar situation. I found his attempt to use magic to try to save a kid in danger of being trampled by a runaway cart to be more egregious. The thing is he immediately recognises and accepts that he's been transported to a fantasy world because of tropes, but he takes a long time to grasp the time looping despite that being an equally common trope. It's a minor niggle, though. I've really enjoyed the interactions between the cast so far and the central gimmick is compelling. My hope is the entire series is set during this one awful, no good, terrible day.
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This was a really fun episode. The characterisation is consistently solid and his despair at the start in particular felt very real. I didn't anticipate it but it made a lot of sense to me when one of the twins was so pleased that Subaru praised demons. Red Oni, Blue Oni, and all that.
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May 1, 2016 23:25
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Overlord K posted:The best part of this episode was how obnoxious Subaru was being since he was forcing it thus making his already energetic personality dialed up to twelve and it was making him sick. I thought it was grating and painful to watch and I actually like Subaru a bunch. It did a drat good job on that front. Yeah, that was really good. You could just tell he was trying really hard and being really annoying and everyone else just wanted him to shut the hell up. Thankfully, Emilia saved us all. It's the dog that bit him when he was in the village, surely? I assumed he'd just got mysterious dog disease at the time but a curse makes more sense. Maybe.
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May 22, 2016 23:55
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Herbotron posted:The dog is a shaman. Well then. I was pretty sure the dog was the vector for the curse but I did not expect this to be literally true. I look forwards the final battle between demon twins and a glowing dog ft. useless car.
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May 29, 2016 22:39
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madmac posted:He's causing Emilia to massively distrust him by apparently aligning himself with princess tsundere pants, to the point that she makes him stay home after not explaining himself the first time only to have him stroll into the castle as part of her entourage. That's the big one, but I'm sure a lot of the little things will come back to bite him like antagonizing Sir Kissy Hands for no real reason. Yeah this was a huge error and it'll be interesting if he doesn't get to roll this one back after dying. Still, I have to respect Subaru's determination to force himself into the court scenario. Emilia does tend to treat him as a child or a pet, but it's not irrational on her part because she assumes he's pretty much well-meaning but useless. He knows that he is the ultimate shield for her and that he can afford to be reckless with his life but his tragedy is that he can't convey that to her.
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Jun 19, 2016 21:44
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Show knows how to twist the knife. I was wavering over the last few episodes because things slowed down a lot but this was the best episode so far and it's not close. It was good to really break down Subaru's relationship with Emilia and how messed up it is. More so than the fact she helped him, to me he needed a cause- any cause- after being inexplicably thrown into a fantasy world, and she was the first thing that fit. Without her, he doesn't know anyone and he has no direction. Even his singular superpower is useless if he's not in a scenario were people risk dying. It would be more sensible for him to go back to the mansion and live as a servant, but he may have burned his boats there as well. Him screaming about how much she owed him was awful and I love that we went there. Emilia is right, it's all something he does for his own sake. You can't walk this back with time travel; it was necessary for the characters to move forwards. So it'll stick and he'll have to make the best of it. Kytrarewn posted:Keep in mind that Subaru has multiple routes available from this point. Agreed. This is going to have to get worse before it gets better, I think, so he'll need to outright 'betray' Emilia if he wants to even have the chance to make things right. Given the emphasis placed on Priscilla's knight, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where Subaru ends up. Felt strikes me as too easy given she and Reinhardt are bros with him already and Rein is incredibly powerful both in combat and in social terms and doesn't really need the help. Also pretty happy to see the subversion of the 'throw sand in the knight's eyes' trick. As it turns out, that guy may be a dorky noble who stands on his honour but he's better at fighting than Random Japanese Teenager.
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Jun 26, 2016 23:53
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Arkeus posted:I don't think you should put 'quotations' on what Subaru is doing. A big part of the setting is that what Subaru does is real. There is no one timeline where doesn't care about people/etc. When he betrays someone, he does betray them. I think I should. Another important element of the story is the dissonance between what Subaru knows and does and how he is perceived by others. His sprawling multiple timeline memories of Emilia and Emilia's single timeline memories of him are both true, but they are not the same. So I definitely think it's possible for him to fall in with another Queen Candidate to stay involved in the selection intending only to look for a chance to help Emilia (and rebuild the relationship he's shattered with his own stupidity) without betraying her from his perspective. But from the point of view of Emilia- who has just talked at length about how she can't read Subaru's mind despite his lofty expectations of her- that would be actual betrayal with all the fallout that entails. Which of the two is valid? Both.
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Jun 27, 2016 13:25
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Arkeus posted:Betrayers never think they betray. You don't "look at it from the point of view of the one doing a betrayal", as in that case it never ever happens. Your first line sounds really cool, but sadly it's wrong. Betrayers can and do self-consciously betray others; conversely it's possible for apparent traitors to be acting on their original loyalties. Rudolf Hess is an amusing historical example of the latter. Putting that aside, this is a really boring and semantic conversation to be having. The latter is a more convincing argument, though I'm not certain I agree. Even if it's true of Subaru before now, there's no guarantee he won't resort to deception now he's had his pride thoroughly stomped into the ground.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:13
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As much as Subaru is deservedly being crapped on right now, a lot of his current problems are caused directly or indirectly by Evil Witch Curses TM. Emilia rails at him for not talking to her and that's very fair from her perspective, but it's not just that he's a goon who assumes his waifu can read his mind, it's literally impossible for him to explain himself to her. Independent of his weaknesses as a person, he's been placed in a horrible situation by an incomprehensible force.
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Jun 28, 2016 13:51
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madmac posted:Yeah, that sounds about right. Being with Emilia would make saving her too easy, so this time he's got to deal with the separation and save her by learning politics or whatever. It's also the only way for him to get a lot of interaction with the like 10 new characters in this arc, so I can definitely see it. This makes a lot of sense. Subaru was being a poo poo all episode but the ending kind of justified all his delusions of grandeur in a sense because everything is terrible and plainly these people can't stay alive without his help. If the clear condition is him showing some humility and talking to other people rather than being Emilia's talkative save point mascot who hits things with swords that would help tie things together. I figured he'd hit rock bottom last episode but no he is still digging and it is getting painful to watch him slap away the hands of everyone who is trying to get through to him. I especially liked the false uptick following his chat with Crusch that was swiftly undermined because he's still leaning on his superpower making him special while Emilia is a useless damsel and all the rest. This arc is gonna be a long one.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:06
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Great episode. It was definitely Puck who killed Subaru in the end in both timelines which is a pretty good way to twist the knife. Subaru being 'Pride' makes way too much sense if we're using a Seven Deadly Sins motif. Ever since the start he's assumed he's the chosen hero but this arc has been hammering home the depths of his arrogance and his delusions of grandeur, and we already know he is associated with the witch in one way or another. Betelgeuse didn't work for me really. Every villain thus far has been pretty silly (Elsa, Evil Dog) but he's pretty much a prancing caricature and mostly falls flat. Like most characters in this show, he's at his most effective when he calls out Subaru on his bullshit. Outside that, I found him unbearably camp at a time when the show is trying for pathos. Rem isn't the deepest character in the world but I'll admit that I ended up sympathising with her heroics and her frantic attempts to reach Subaru and shake him back to life. The ending sequence was excellent as Subaru is back doing Subaru things and we dare hope we've bottomed out and he's back in the game after Rem went so far for him. Then we cut to his eyes burning with incandescent rage and realise he's still screwed. Subaru feigning madness to try and win sympathy is a new low for him, but as this arc unfolds and we encounter Betelgeuse's merry men I can't stop thinking about how he's partly right. Emilia really is being hunted by forces beyond her ken and for whatever reason even Puck's considerable power isn't enough to protect her. It will be interesting to see how Subaru resolves this situation after he finishes literally and metaphorically banging his head against a rock. Perhaps he needs to assemble the superfriends by calling the royal candidates (or at least their knights) together? Him having to beg Julius for help would be a suitable punishment.
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Jul 10, 2016 20:06
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CrashScreen posted:It feels like this makes it perfectly clear that Puck knows what's going on with Subaru as well, which is also making Emilia that little bit more suspect even if she's not aware of it all. I didn't really read it that way. I think Puck just went full wrathful elder demon after his beloved daughter died and killed anyone who approached out of spite, including Subaru for his failure to protect Emilia. But if anyone we've met so far knows about his power, I guess it'd be Puck. And yeah, Subaru probably does just want to quit at this point but sadly that's not an option. The psychological torture will continue until morale improves.
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Jul 10, 2016 20:23
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This was a Good Episode. The dialogue was cheesy at times but this is pretty much a melodrama so I'll allow it. Subaru needed this. I needed this. Much like the argument with Emilia after he stormed into the palace, it would be a damned shame to roll this one back. The fact that this show could do that anyway frightens me since if Subaru remembers it will continue to fulfill its purpose, even if Rem forgets. That would be a crueler twist of the knife than any amount of murder porn. Puck going full ancient demon mode again was great, and we received some interesting clues about him in the process. I figured he had an ordinary degree of affection and loyalty for the child he saw fit to lend his power to, but if an ancient and powerful spirit goes so far as to say Emilia is his reason to live, there has to be one hell of a backstory there. It sounds like he tangled with Satella in the past as well since he knows her abilities, but that's less surprising given his age and power. The question is where Emilia fits into everything, between Puck, the dragon and contest for the Throne, and Satella and the Ordeals. If Reinhard is the stereotypical overpowered main character of the setting, Emilia is certainly the chosen one, though it hasn't brought her much more than a variety of exciting deaths thus far. Now that we've made it back to the starting line, Subaru is going to have to get good at politics quickly. It's hard to see how he can possibly save Emilia without compromising her position as a royal candidate, given he doesn't have the power to save her by himself and the only available help are in rival camps. Perhaps he can contrive to have them defeat or drive off the White Whale as an effort that is in the common interest, then rush back with Rem, but it's unclear how Roswaal's faction can defeat Betelgeuse and his lackeys without Roswaal himself being present. Perhaps Subaru's ability to see Betelgeuse's hands will be the difference-maker.
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Jul 31, 2016 20:22
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The erased from all timelines theory was cool and good. The fact it has been proven strictly untrue is really neither here nor there!
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Jul 31, 2016 23:03
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Arcanen posted:I don't really understand Subaru's awakening/redemption/whatever this episode. Over this arc he's been made aware of how he was acting like a complete poo poo to everyone, and has been suffering since that revelation, and now his redemption is some "just be yourself" malarkey and to go back to acting as he was before? Despite there being very real and serious problems with how he'd been acting that he seemed to finally be accepting? Regardless of what he's done before now, wallowing in a bottomless pit of self-hatred isn't going to solve anything. He needs to draw a line and move on with a positive attitude, focusing on what he can do now rather than what he should have done before. That's why they oh-so-subtly drop the title like a grand piano at the end of the episode. It's pretty funny to see him talk about how he's going to be an awesome hero this time seriously guys given everything that's happened before now, but I think that's necessary on some level. At the least, it looks like he's accepted Rem as a friend who will guide and vet his actions rather than just a tool to push around.
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Daxing Dan posted:There's a bit that was cut from the anime, but during the scene at the beginning of this week's episode, before Puck kills Subaru, Puck himself admits he'll never be able to destroy the world, because once Reinhard steps in to stop him, Puck is finished. Reinhard is basically this universe's godmode character, as his title, the Sword Saint, implies. They don't often stress just how powerful Reinhard is, but Subaru only accepts that Rem is completely and utterly screwed when Otto tells him the White Whale killed the previous Sword Saint, because how the hell can anything kill someone on Reinhard's level? Frankly, Reinhard being explicitly invincible and peerless is a really boring part of the setting. I encourage any anime cuts to the original material that reduce the amount of time characters dwell on it, even if it remains true.
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Aug 2, 2016 09:27
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I wish we'd spent more time on the negotiations and less time on going over Wilhelm's trite backstory three times. I'm also a little unclear on why people believe Subaru has the standing to offer mining rights on behalf of Roswaal. I'd write it off as him bluffing well if it wasn't for the fact it's explicitly impossible to lie to Crusch.
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A big flaming stink posted:(spoilers, obv) 2ch deciphered the tree carvings: No Game No Life crossover confirmed. Edit: Based on my recent experiences, I would advise against googling this name.
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Aug 8, 2016 03:35
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Yeah echoing the sentiment that you'd have to pay me to care about Wilhelm's backstory. I'd rather they cut it entirely but if they were going to do it they should have spent half an episode or an episode on it rather than awkwardly splice it into the battle. The fight didn't really work for me since it was a battle between a bunch of people we barely know and care nothing for and a fairly passive beast. The whale worked far better when it was death from the darkness but when you shine a clear light on something like that it inevitably looks silly. This just confirms in my mind that these past few episodes have been backwards- the negotiations should have been given this much time and the battle should have been handled in a few minutes. Hopefully we can tidy this up next episode and get back on track for the showdown with Betelgeuse.
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Aug 14, 2016 21:14
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Raenir Salazar posted:On the other hand, go Rem! Speaking as a member of team Emilia, I'm pretty happy with the fact Subaru turned Rem down a few episodes ago and reaffirmed his commitment to pursuing Emilia. The fanbase can make of it what they will.
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Aug 21, 2016 23:51
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ninjewtsu posted:I don't know if "this is a harem anime because a girl didn't express an immense dislike for the male protagonist" is what I was supposed to get from this, but it's what I did What you got from it is manifestly unreasonable. That scene was very clearly teasing the fact Crusch was romantically attracted to Subaru while acknowledging she wasn't going to act on that fact in any way. I for one am not wringing my hands for the harem bullshit of the future so much as rolling my eyes at the pandering found in the present. I think that scene and their dynamic would have worked better without the line about heartstrings. With that said, it's not exactly a huge deal or anything, so whatever.
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Conspiratiorist posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? Like that other guy who bemoans harem while seeing every male/female interaction as a possible romance. I know this is japanese media but come the gently caress on. You should probably calm down or something. It's okay for people to have different responses to a text. It's less okay to have a hysterical response to people reading a scene in a different way from you. I thought it was one bad line in an otherwise reasonable scene exactly because I enjoy the platonic respect Subaru and Crusch have for each other. I don't really understand why criticising it has induced such violent and defensive responses from the thread.
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