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Arcsquad12 posted:I'm actually not that big a fan of Shin's final form but his tadpole/amphibious stage is loving terrifying. i appreciated the lack of mobility. it gave the whole thing a more pronounced sense of inevitability and impending doom. it fits perfectly with the feeling you get during a slow motion disaster like fukushima daiichi
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Evangelion would be perfect if it were one of those "icon director as producer/hot action director in the chair" sort of things like Transformers (Spielberg/Bay) or Man of Steel (Nolan/Snyder). except the "icon producer" is Anno and Gareth Edwards is the man in the chair. Creator of Eva/Godzilla director + Godzilla director = EVA live-action! edit: this is roughly how I imagine the MGS movie will eventually get made, except with Kojima and Vogt-Roberts instead of Anno and Edwards. If Japan isn't gonna do anything with the weird auteurs that it has sitting around we ought to. Bring Anno, Kojima, Beat Takeshi and Miike to America, give them an international cast and $30 million budget and let them go nuts. DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 26, 2018 |
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I still keep hoping every new James Bond movie will end with a giant robot fight.
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DC Murderverse posted:Evangelion would be perfect if it were one of those "icon director as producer/hot action director in the chair" sort of things like Transformers (Spielberg/Bay) or Man of Steel (Nolan/Snyder). https://twitter.com/VogtRoberts/status/1022107339753541632 https://twitter.com/VogtRoberts/status/1019188385188122624 Relevant because, uhh, King Kong guy and very Kaiju-esque mecha.
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I just watched Shin Godzilla for the first time based on this thread. That was something. I'm not sure I've ever felt so removed from Godzilla. He (it?) really did feel more like a sort of freakish accident than an animal - like some sort of unthinking fungal infection. Something that grows under a rock that should never see the light of day. I also find it oddly sweet and refreshing to see civil servants portrayed as the heroes. They're bumbling, sort of, but also smart, determined, and well meaning. It's an interesting contrast to see Godzilla reduced to a chaotic biological catastrophe while the government suits get to save the day. It's a little like the standard Godzilla formula flipped on its head.
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I like that the MUTOs are organic stealth bombers.
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Szmitten posted:I like that the MUTOs are organic stealth bombers. Or scaled-up xenomorphs, according to the production team for G14. Early concept art was a bit more explicit about them being giant xenomorphs until they went in more of a preying mantis direction.
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Console Role Player posted:Shin-Godzilla chat: in the final part of the movie the scientist played by Shinya Tsukamoto mentions that he believes Shin-Godzilla is capable of evolving a "flying form" to travel across the globe. Combined with Shin Godzilla's final images, I've kinda interpreted this to mean that potential sequels could introduce creatures that "bud" from the main Godzilla body, evolving into familiar monsters like Ghidora, Gigan, what have you. It's dumb but at least it's different. I'd also be happy with just another film with a constantly evolving Godzilla transforming in to greater and more grotesque perversions of the iconic Godzilla design. gently caress that would be so loving cool, I'm mad now that this probably will never happen. Gigan being retconned in this continuity into being the next evolution of Godzilla would be nuts.
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Gatts posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38rI-t4o2A Look at how much dignity and nobility they managed to squeeze out of his fat little lizard face
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Dignity, sure, but I much prefer his poo poo eating grin at Hawaii
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As far as big G faces goes, his "I'm so loving done with this poo poo" scowl right before smashing the MUTO against a building is perfect.
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His "I'm getting too old for this poo poo" shrug right after is the best. And then the building drops on him. Poor Goji. BTW, I think I'm gonna go ahead and write that Man of Steel vs. Godzilla script, a.k.a. Space Godizlla is Such a Dick
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'14 Godzilla is kind of adorable.
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K. Waste posted:His "I'm getting too old for this poo poo" shrug right after is the best.
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Tekne posted:Mothra will knead his sore back like a giant cat. Nah, Battra. Battra is that universe's Mothra who's been experimented on, and who comes and helps Superman break free of the malevolent grasp Space Goji has on his mind.
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I prefer Battra's originial working title, GIGAMOTH.
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K. Waste posted:BTW, I think I'm gonna go ahead and write that Man of Steel vs. Godzilla script, a.k.a. Space Godizlla is Such a Dick There may be some rights issues to work out seeing that Goji's part of the Marvel universe 
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Shneak posted:'14 Godzilla is kind of adorable. At the very end he reminds me of a dog who spent the whole day running around at the park
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Nroo posted:There may be some rights issues to work out seeing that Goji's part of the Marvel universe I can't believe K Waste's new script is the most ambitious crossover in history.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:As far as big G faces goes, his "I'm so loving done with this poo poo" scowl right before smashing the MUTO against a building is perfect. Seriously, that one "I've figured you out, fucker" does more to establish Godzilla's intelligence and personality than most kaiju get in an entire movie. That moment of Godzilla silently catching his breath after a big victory is straight out of a wuxia movie.
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Schwarzwald posted:I can't believe K Waste's new script is the most ambitious crossover in history. Somewhere a long the line it was lost that the primary role of a producer is just to be an ideas man. I'm a 2000% better ideas man. All this poo poo about "crossovers" and "universes" is just the latest way to sell sequels, when they ask for these kinds of franchises, nobody is actually taking the concept seriously, about how the 'crossing over' should be used as an excuse for some kind of cross-breeding/contamination. Like, Godzilla leaves an indelible mark on the cape man movie, and the cape man movie leaves an indelible mark on the giant monster movie. Something like Justice League, on the other hand, doesn't even make any sense because despite overtures of connectivity, it's very obviously a highly self-contained 'universe.' The same thing keeps happening over and over again, a big devil man comes and needs to be stopped. Same thing with any studio who is attempting to 'compete' with a company that literally only makes superhero movies, whose 100% resources are devoted to making only one kind of movie.
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https://twitter.com/mike_dougherty/status/1022206801545064448?s=21 "Contains original themes by Akira Ifukube" Yes!
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/mike_dougherty/status/1022206801545064448?s=21 Pff, lemme know when they get some Masaru Sato tracks in there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX-ZGzVXohs
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/mike_dougherty/status/1022206801545064448?s=21 Wish it said “Alexandre Desplat” tbh. That score is badass and I want more
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Shneak posted:'14 Godzilla is kind of adorable. I like when him the soldier guy kinda share that moment
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So I'm watching 14, and the quarantined zone is some real good set/production design. E: Man, Aaron Taylor-Johnson is really just a nondescript white guy, huh. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Waffleman_ posted:So I'm watching 14, and the quarantined zone is some real good set/production design. If you want to have fun, see how many city shots in the film are just Vancouver (it's all of them)
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Also I should clarify that this is a rewatch.
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Been thinking about it and while I'd love to see the current Shin Godzilla crew tackle MechaGodzilla vs Godzilla, I'd also be worried it would just become any Eva episode turned live -action. On the other hand... I still just want to see that realized. Thanks for the updates on how the US vs. JPN films are trading off. I'd accept the Legendary line to go full "Action-Kaiju-Godzilla" and just pump out one monster match up a year with Hollywood level budgets. Then the Toho line could keep the "Terror/Disaster-Godzilla" every so many years between Legendary spectacles.
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Waffleman_ posted:E: Man, Aaron Taylor-Johnson is really just a nondescript white guy, huh. I have a hard time faulting his performance; I'm not sure there was really much for the character to do after his dad dies. I counted this up a few years back and I think ATJ's character says like 12 total words in the last 30 minutes of the movie.
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He's deliberately a blank slate who gets to somehow be in person for most of the action, so he's an audience proxy. It's not a new character device, but in this case was a major misstep. In kaiju flicks, the lion's share of the plot will be the human side of things. If you don't make it interesting, people start to notice how much of that expensive giant monster screen time you didn't make.
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Choco1980 posted:He's deliberately a blank slate who gets to somehow be in person for most of the action, so he's an audience proxy. It's not a new character device, but in this case was a major misstep. In kaiju flicks, the lion's share of the plot will be the human side of things. If you don't make it interesting, people start to notice how much of that expensive giant monster screen time you didn't make. Yeah. I wouldn't exactly call most of the Kong Skull Island characters well-written, but at least there was some "there" there, so it was a bit more interesting (if not necessarily as *good*) as G'14.
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I thought he was fine. He kept things moving and had his good moments. I don't want anyone taking attention away from the monsters by being over the top.
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I think 14 being framed as sort of a disaster movie helps compensate for the weakness of the human plot, really.
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I just don't see a fundamental difference between Brody's characterization and Taylor-Johnson's acting and what we mostly get out of Godzilla movies. I liked that reserved, observant quality - it helps in the context of films about puny humans facing god-like forces.
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Amechwarrior posted:Been thinking about it and while I'd love to see the current Shin Godzilla crew tackle MechaGodzilla vs Godzilla, I'd also be worried it would just become any Eva episode turned live -action. On the other hand... I still just want to see that realized. The Shin Godzilla milieu seems to be "utterly mundane current world but with an awakened Lovecraftian Great Old One running amok" and it'd be really really difficult to introduce MechaGodzilla into that without changing it too much and having to skip ahead a few decades in technologic advancements or introduce crazy alien tech. We couldn't even build anything like the Gotengo using current technology and MechaGodzilla is quite a few steps beyond that. But a story about dozens of layers of Japanese bureaucracy working together to develop a Godzilla-fighting machine would be pretty wonderful.  I think the Legendary Monsterverse might have the same problems, their setting is a bit too 'grounded' for Monarch to suddenly start rolling out Jaegers.
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Yeah, while I "get" the complaints about Taylor-Johnson being boring, I think even post-Cranston he's very good in the airport shuttle scene or in that train bridge attack set piece. And the last thirty minutes are so drat good there's really no need for him to say more.
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I mean, yeah, he's not bad. The scene with him and the Japanese boy was good.
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