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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


What the hell I didn't even post in this thread yet. Future proofing I guess but I would have rather gotten a Lum avatar instead.

That Wilmore dinner speech was pretty great and the awkward pauses and boos from the audience made it better.

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


El Disco posted:

Kid seems like he's destined to be a cop.

He's probably has slightly better aim than the average LEO.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I hope Terry fucks them over this but who knows. Those guys have been absolute trash for years.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Hmm a boy was shot by the police because he was holding a gun and ran from two plains clothes officers which according to the police department is an act worthy of lethal force and something "the community would expect them to do." Of course the obvious answer is to ban replica guns, not ask why kids holding guns apparently means that police are free to try and execute them in the street. Toy guns are the issue here not systemic racism and bloodthirsty cowards. Seems weird that police only seem to shoot certain kids with toys but let's not ask questions otherwise we might infer that blue lives don't matter.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-replica-guns-20160428-story.html

Thankfully though the boy won't be charge for causing his own shooting so horray the system works!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-boy-no-charges-20160430-story.html

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 2, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


The brazenness of the gun lobby being successful in their messaging that guns need to be literally everywhere or people will be unsafe juxtaposed with police constantly and successfully using the fear of toy guns on black people even in areas with legal open carry as a reason to attack them and absolutely no one in Serious positions pointing out this outrageous blatant conflict of ideology, if not actively supporting the police, drives me absolutely crazy.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Grundulum posted:

Maybe all the bad posters. :mmmhmm:

I'm just happy to be part of a group.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Sir Tonk posted:

If anyone around here remember the 80's/90's, there were a few stories of police accidentally shooting kids with BB guns and/or squirt guns that looked basically identical to real 9mm Berettas. The media's response was to chastise the police and legislators/parents moved to require distinguishing marks on the toy guns to prevent future incidents. Very few people blamed the kids. There were some assholes that said the kids should've been more careful, but they didn't get much airtime.

There's a very specific difference between the kids back then and Tamir Rice.

Yeah I remember this. Twitchy cops have been a thing for a while but in certain cases it's totally understandable that the police would fire on children.

Also black people REALLY should stop turning around and pointing their fake guns (if they have them otherwise point stuff like cellphones or candy bars) at police while running away. It's a really odd and unrealistic thing to do so I have no idea why it happens in every case of a police shooting an unarmed person. :iiam:

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 2, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Boon posted:

CNN has been hilariously promoting it's stories of how badly Larry Wilmore preformed at the WHCD.

I don't even remember what he said about them, other than Don Lemon, but goddamn he must have really pissed someone off. Mission Accomplished I say.

He said they had zero ratings and made fun of Wolf which got a hilarious amount of uncomfortable silence from the room. It felt like the media guys there really don't get that CNN is a flaming trash pile and not worthy of any respect.

I don't know what Don Lemon said afterwards but when they showed him flipping off Wilmore it looked like more of a "haha, and gently caress you too buddy" kind of thing rather than actually being pissed.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Welp thought this was the OTHER time this exact thing happened recently.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


bowser posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwrNiRngMhc

Here's what happens when you have a major political party constantly vilifying people who need government assistance to survive.

I read an article someone wrote a free weeks ago that touched on the concept of a lack of empathy that society has now. Her brother had died from a heroin addiction and on the anniversary of his death her mother posted about it and the comments were filled with assholes calling him a junky and that he deserved it and such and how this sort of thing is common where anyone that needs help or has something bad happen is then yelled at through social media. She attributed this partly to the ease of dehumanizing people through the internet and how in person you have to see someone's facial reaction and you then know when you have gone to far in saying something bad. However I think that this video is an example that she isn't entirely correct. The real meat of the issue is that in the last thirty or so years (probably longer) there has been a concerted effort to create a message that anyone that needs help is a failure and deserves whatever bad thing happens to them.

The obvious intent of that is to destroy the social safety net so you get idiots like this woman thinking that any significant part of her taxes go towards this man's family's food stamps. Social media is the easy place to yell at the "takers" but it's becoming more of a common thing for these videos of people that have been stewing in the juices of hate media to finally decide they need to say something to the people that are stealing THEIR money and should just be working harder than 56 hours a week if they want their kids to have dinner. I think it's partly that we want to believe if these people actually met a family in need in person and weren't just some nebulous internet example that they would change their attitude but really it's clear we are past that point. It also raises severe questions into the line that private charities will be able to cover government social services. Obviously they can't possible do that but the fallacy that people will donate enough to cover starving people is made more questionable when people like this are the ones that would be asked to give. How are we supposed to believe a person outraged that her tax dollars are feeding this man's children is going to give enough to her church for them to be able to feed any significant amount of people? I understand there's this weird place where a person can be a hate filled caricature in one aspect of his or her life and then be giving in other ways, but there's simply no way this person (or most people realistically) would be willing to give enough to offset the destruction of food stamps alone.

It's been a problem for years but we've allowed the right wing to fester in their own alternate reality for so long we are going to see a lot more of these types of confrontations as the people that have been led to believe they are being robbed through taxes feel the pinch as well and lash out at who they've been told are the ones stealing their paychecks. It's not like anyone with a real voice is really fighting against that narrative.

NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE posted:

I cannot stop laughing while picturing this:

Rough day for Cruz.At last stop a man pulled the "too slow" handshake trick on him then shouted Cruz looked like a “fish monster"@bgittleson

If a video of this doesn't surface then the panopticon of omnipresent camera phones I was promised has failed.

EDIT: Horay!

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:05 on May 3, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Shifty Pony posted:

I disagree with your assumption here and the intent you ascribe to it.

I think people classify food stamp users and the generally less fortunate as fundamentally broken mooching losers because that lets them not face the horrible reality of the randomness in this world. "There, but for the grace of God, go I" is a really really scary concept, so people instead cling to the idea of a just world. Psychological tests show that people are really freaked out by the idea that randomness is in charge and that they have no control over things that impact them.

The person doing the attacking in the video is less trying to belittle that person and more trying to reassure themselves that they are not at risk of finding themselves in the same situation.

They are also an rear end in a top hat.

I agree with you on why people like that woman feels that way since she (like most of us) has very little agency in how the world works which can be terrifying. However this sort of messaging that feeds into her fear and creates a specific target of the poor has been coming down from powerful interests for years. Those people are very much trying to destroy the safety net.

I disagree that she is merely trying to reassure herself though. That might be part of it but showing that you disapprove of other people and trying to make them feel bad or responsible for their plights is becoming a big thing.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 3, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


hangedman1984 posted:

Wow, what a gigantic oval office!

Seriously. That wasn't even the conservative fear of the welfare mooch buying lobster, steaks, and expensive desserts. He was buying groceries with his family and even that is now too much.

There's also always the "don't have kids you can't afford!!" bullshit which doesn't help the kids that are already alive and need food unless they know a magical spell to reverse time and unbirth a child. Of course that solution is just a cowardly way to say sex havers should be punished but they know that's not as popular as Sensible economic solutions.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:45 on May 3, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I wonder if she learned the real lesson she was trying to teach the Iranians. Probably not. I have a feeling that her foreign policy isn't going to be very good.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Pope Guilty posted:

So apparently the rural Edwards county in Texas is being run by a corrupt "Constitutional sheriff".

I think we are going to see a lot more of this as the Bundy standoff types realize that the real way to be huge pains in the asses is from within the system that really isn't prepared to deal with them there.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Armyman25 posted:

Since the subject of jobs in rural areas ins pretty important, here's a small Nebraska town rejecting a packing plant because Muslim Somalis might work there:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_29839260/tiny-nebraska-town-says-no-1-100-jobs

poo poo like this is why a lot of Blue Dogs are dying off. You can't hold the position that labor is great, except until minorities get any of it as easily anymore. These people are going to go Republican because loving over non-whites and keeping their societies insular is much more important to them than helping themselves.


This is great.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:17 on May 4, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Kasich is out.

All aboard the Trump train!

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Clinton will almost certainly win at this point but I would be very surprised if Trump got less than 45% of the popular vote. I think current polls aren't taking into account that people don't want to say they are voting for Trump but will pull the lever anyway. The GOP is already starting up Never Hillary.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Yeah I think Clinton is going to win comfortably but not quite the blowout a lot of people that see Trump as too terrible for Republicans voters believe.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Zeroisanumber posted:

Northern VA is filled with people who could almost be Hillary clones, and there is no loving way that Donald "Mexican Rapists" Trump is going to win enough of the Latino vote to take Florida.

This couldn't be more true.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Scott Walker was definitely a rising star. A GOP Governor that won both a recall and a re-election and is nationally known for beating Democrats and instituting conservative policy in what was seen as a labor friendly state. He was moneyed interest's attempt to throw money at a guy and make him their Presidential puppet. Luckily for the country he was a huge loser and looked goofy so no one outside of Wisconsin suburbs fell for it.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


My prediction is that Trump runs and loses, the base gets real mad until they eventually cool off somewhat, the GOP fixes their primaries since allowing every scam artist to get free book advertising was a huge mistake, then when Mitt Romney 2.0 is the only choice, the base votes straight R as always. I'd like for Trump to be the point where this modern Republicans start to fall apart but I think the people they appeal to aren't going to disappear and will still be able to be pandered to especially at the state level.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


How stupid do you have to be to actually get caught for bribery? The SCOTUS thread makes it look almost impossible if you aren't brain dead.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Joementum posted:

The state senator who was bribed wrote a memo to the Paul campaign asking for $100,000 in cash, payable in twelve monthly installments of $8,000. Seriously.

The Paul campaign invited him and his wife out to dinner, waited for him to go to the restroom and handed his wife a check for $25,000. Two days later, he endorsed Paul.

Haha that's pretty great.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Luigi Thirty posted:

We must stop those religious extremists who pay to marry their children off to each other and oh wait they're Christian nevermind



But wait, you ask, does not a legitimate marriage require the consent of both people marrying?

Anytime people point out that hyper religious people are hypocritical because they don't REALLY follow the bible otherwise they would be doing something much more extreme it feels like the response is to say "OK LETS GO!"

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


"Dangerous Donald" is the sort of out of touch thing DNC types would think up.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump says that the solution to the national debt is to default and cut a deal so we don't pay 100 cents on the dollar which he could do because he makes deals for a living.

I'm having Sensible Democrats tell me that in the incredible off-case of Bernie winning the nomination (:arzy:) that they would vote Bloomberg as a protest vote since Bernie's economic policies are so disastrous. It's amusing to me that they are willing to help in this sort of really bad economic poo poo because :qq: socialism. These people are still whining about Nader and his supporters as well so the irony isn't lost on me.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Stop talking to straw men.

That's going to be really awkward at work and family gatherings.

Zeroisanumber posted:

I'm hearing Bernie diehards tell me that Hillary winning forever shattered their gentle innocence about democracy and they're going to vote Jill Stein but don't care if Trump wins because we deserve it for not Embracing the Youth & Future of the Party.

I suspect the common denominator from the two groups is that they're all white as gently caress.

This checks out.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


It seemed pretty obvious that once JEB flopped, barring some kind of shady convention quirk from Cruz, Trump was most likely going to be the last man standing. The entire field was an absolute joke and he was the only one that had any sort of momentum behind him. The others were just fighting for the not-Trump votes in the same way the not-Romney's did in 2012. I think initially everyone though that JEB would be the Romney of this cycle but it became clear that the base was done settling for an establishment guy that was just going to lose anyway.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Yeah me too. Once JEB became a joke and losing states I thought Trump had to be the one. I think a lot of people, especially those that are in the political class and pundits in general, really didn't want to believe the GOP would nominate Trump but anyone that had paid attention to their racist messaging that has heightened over the last eight years saw it coming.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


as halfway crooks posted:

rubio was set to be a contender but it seems that we have already forgotten christies noble suicide bombing of him on live television


I think Rubmentum was totally manufactured as a last ditch "oh god not Trump or Cruz lets pretend Rubio is real and maybe it will happen" attempt from serious types.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Party Plane Jones posted:

How in the gently caress is this guy not going to prison?

Breaking the law is the perk you get for working in the justice system. Like if you work as McDonald's you can sneak a few fries or something if you are working late and the manager isn't watching. If you are a judge, a prosecutor, or a cop (or related to one) you can be a pedophile, massively abuse your authority for personal gain, or kill people and the system will let you get away with retirement or maybe nothing. The system works.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 10, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


It's hard to make up a reason why you NEEDED to gently caress someone (or use racist epithets) in self defense so that stuff gets punished if it becomes an issue and the department can't cover it up. Killing somebody then claiming they were coming right at you with their toy gun, cellphone, wallet, or ability to hit you into the pavement is hard to disprove if the person is dead. We had a lot of fun previously about how horrible it is for cops to have to risk their lives making a choice between killing someone and potentially having that person kill them so we have to ALWAYS assume that police killings are in good faith.

In America the person killed by cops is the one put on trial.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 11, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Pretty much anyone that says "Blue Lives Matter" is either grossly misinformed or absolute scum.

EDIT Before anyone jumps on me for supporting cop killings which I don't, "Blue Lives Matter" is obviously code for "don't complain when we shoot unarmed black people since police matter more than them."

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 11, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



The sad part is she was bought out for such a pathetic amount.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



What a surprise. I'm sure he has similar opinions about publicizing other crimes.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


MC Nietzche posted:

I'll admit I had a serious moment of weakness in the summer of 2012 when that Chick-Fil-a poo poo was blowing up and white people were lining up out the door to buy their lovely chicken as a sign of anti-gay solidarity. I really thought they might have had the energy to beat a President leading a weak economy and championing an unpopular healthcare overhaul. Turns out it was easier to buy chicken than to vote.

Was there any actually data on how much that amounted to in terms of sales? The media loves to pretend that right wing movements are huge when in actuality like ten guys show up with lawn chairs and are carefully photographed to mask that fact.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



This is kinda funny. Sounds like the Republicans are going to be going forward with the liberal pipe dream of cutting off federal funding to Red States by themselves.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Taerkar posted:

There's a bit of a difference between a supermarket and a restaurant.


I use the ones in markets because they tend to have shorter lines and noone else wants to use them.

I won't use fast food kiosks.

In the supermarket near me in my city the kiosks typically have a ten minute line all the way to the back of the store while the cashiers have one or two customers in line. You can watch people looking at you speed through the line while they are holding their four items and not moving over to the actual human cashier and it's the weirdest thing.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


KomradeX posted:

Feels like every commencement season we have VSP give commencement speeches about how Liberals need to be more tolerant of war criminals because college is about expanding knowledge and different view points (I thought it was about facts and reality but whatever) so when your school gets someone who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people, or who makes a living my being a hate monger you need to let them speak

Anyone that gets someone from the Bush/Reagan/Nixon administrations to cancel a job is an American hero. None of those guys have anything of worth to say other than "I plead guilty."

Like it's one thing if the majority of students really want Rice to speak to them about whatever then that's their choice, but acting like Very Serious People have something inherently valuable to say and we need to respect their viewpoints because they worked in government is absurd. I can also respect the opinion that commencement speakers are lame regardless.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:06 on May 16, 2016

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


gradenko_2000 posted:

You're Fired / I Quit 2016!

Didn't someone make this joke eight years ago predicting the current insanity?

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