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Rangpur posted:Well that's diasppointing, but it seems to be sort of a thing with Disgaea's final story bosses. Either the journey there made you strong enough to clown the entire map with one or two characters, or it's just kind of a tedious slog. (Though again, the worst example of a difficulty curve getting wonky in the endgame is probably still Phantom Brave.) I have no idea what the difficulty curve at the end of Phantom Brave looks like, I got stuck on one of the early fights in the last chapter and went to failure grind bushes into a knife until I had a weapon that carried me all the way to Pringer X.
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Feinne why do you only do one or two actions at a time? I could have sworn you get more bonus gauge if you do the same moves but all in one go.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:40
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Well, for starters, it's important not to get ahead of yourself in case enemies survive attacks you thought were going to kill them. Second, putting together a plan of exactly the order you want things to happen in would make videos take longer.
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Erg posted:Feinne why do you only do one or two actions at a time? I could have sworn you get more bonus gauge if you do the same moves but all in one go. You definitely do, but as fat batman noted there's an element of uncertainty in a lot of actions that makes one not want to get too far ahead of oneself. I also don't want to give people actions while I still might want to move them, until you actually have someone execute an action they can be moved around relatively freely within their movement range. This lets you pull poo poo like pulling someone back into range of a healer, healing them, then cancelling the move that put there there while ALSO retreating the healer away from danger. This is a relevant piece of information because that is literally a significant aspect of my strategy for this game's final boss. Speaking of, my current plan is to split the end of the game into two updates (otherwise it'll be a bit longer than I really want to do in an update with how tired I've been recently and the possibility of work popping up at any moment). We'll see the front end tomorrow and since I've already got videos cutting for it the back end likely Friday. In the meantime, here is an EXCITING POLLING OPPORTUNITY! We'll be picking up a bunch of DLC characters soon, but it's up to you guys who you want to see first and who you might want to see me actually try to use. So please to pick three of the following names (note: two DLC characters are not in fact on this list, one because I'm getting them first and using the hell out of them, the other because I'm going to wait until we get a certain normal bonus character to do their map): Adell (Disgaea 2) Rozalin (Disgaea 2) Liliel (The Guided Fate Paradox) Mao (Disgaea 3) Raspberyl (Disgaea 3) Salvatore the Magnificent (Disgaea 3) Pram the Oracle (Makai Kingdom) Alexander, God of Destruction (Makai Kingdom) Ash (Phantom Brave) Marona (Phantom Brave) Overlord Priere Human Priere (La Pucelle) Eclair (La Pucelle) Nisa The Indestructible Gig (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) Plumiere (Battle Princess of the Arcadias) If you'd like more information on how any of them are in DD2 to inform your decision feel free to ask.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:11
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Throw my votes in for Mao, Adell, and Gig. Two of them are protagonists and therefor must be badass, the last is the only non-Disgaea character on that list I recognize (heresy, I know).
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Oct 4, 2016 20:27
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Salvatore, Rozalin, and Gig Salvatore seems like she'd be a huge fan of Barbara, Rozalin is an overlord, and Gig is Gig.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:40
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Nisa, Gig, Raspberyl Aside from Gig, these are probably the most unfitting cohorts for Laharl to have on his side, because the
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Oct 4, 2016 20:59
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Raspberyl, Overlord Priere, Gig Is anyone actually not going to vote for Gig? 
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Oct 4, 2016 21:08
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Gig, Gig, Gig Does that answer the question?
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Oct 4, 2016 21:14
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Gig, Rozalin, Alexander
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Oct 4, 2016 21:33
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Nisa, Gig, Pram
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Oct 4, 2016 21:34
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Adell, NISA, and
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Oct 4, 2016 21:37
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Adell, Rozalin, Nisa
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Oct 4, 2016 21:37
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Roz, Gig, Priere let's accidentally on purpose end the world a few times. If I had a fourth I'd vote NISA,
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Oct 4, 2016 22:20
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Gonna stand up for Phantom Brave with Ash, Marona....and Gig.
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Oct 4, 2016 23:00
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Gig, Nisa, and...uh...Gig
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Gig, Nisa and Liliel
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Oct 5, 2016 00:12
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GIG Wait two other choices? Uhhhhhh
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Ardeem posted:I have no idea what the difficulty curve at the end of Phantom Brave looks like, I got stuck on one of the early fights in the last chapter and went to failure grind bushes into a knife until I had a weapon that carried me all the way to Pringer X. Were I ever to LP it, Marona would be the spergiest, spread-sheetingest, min-maxer to ever teach others valuable lessons about racism... because that's more or less how Phantom Brave plays out. And on that note, Marona, Ash and (because it's the only name I don't recognize at ALL) Lilliel.
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Oct 5, 2016 00:17
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Salvatore, Gig and Nisa.
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Oct 5, 2016 00:26
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I'm gonna go with team never met 'em: Liliel, Human Priere, Plumiere
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Oct 5, 2016 00:43
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Rozalin, Marona and Overlord Priere.
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Oct 5, 2016 00:48
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Adell, Rozalin, and Nisa. I have no idea who the gently caress this Gig person everyone else voted for is. 
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Rozalin, Gig, and Marona I purchased and beat Phantom Brave recently. It's nice to have some NIS games on my PC. I just wish they'd port some of them to the 3DS. SRPGs are perfect for my commute.
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MarsDragon posted:Gonna stand up for Phantom Brave with Ash, Marona....and Gig. Phantom Brave doesn't gig enough credit.
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Oct 5, 2016 02:03
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Adell, Rozalin, and I guess whatever NISA is.
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W.T. Fits posted:I have no idea who the gently caress this Gig person everyone else voted for is. I mean, you'll find out what kind of person he is in this LP, but here have this for your convenience. Pram, Alexander, and Gig
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I don't really understand how this first-past-the-post system works, so I'm going to do what I did in the federal election this year and vote below the linecode:
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Oct 5, 2016 04:39
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Pram, Overlord Priere, Rozalin
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If you want to be nitpicky, Range Voting is the best voting system for democracy. All you do is rate how happy you would be with each character getting picked on a scale of 0 to 10. If everyone does this, with a healthy blend of some people being binary 0-or-10 and some being "honest" with gradients, then when you calculate the average for each character the highest scores are the happiest compromise for everyone. Alternatively, dark assembly style! How old your account is dictates how many votes you have! FAT BATMAN fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 06:40
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Mao, Adell, Raspberyl i.e. the two characters with a ton of votes I actually know, and Raspberyl. Chuu fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 07:06
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Pram, Overlord Priere, Gig. Gotta get some more numbnuts up in here.
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Adell, Rozalin and Plumiere No Revya in D2? How is Gig supposed to work without his partner? (Ok, ok, it's Gig, but it would be less fun for him) Omobono fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Gig, Overlord Priere, Rozalin
I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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FAT BATMAN posted:If you want to be nitpicky, Range Voting is the best voting system for democracy. All you do is rate how happy you would be with each character getting picked on a scale of 0 to 10. If everyone does this, with a healthy blend of some people being binary 0-or-10 and some being "honest" with gradients, then when you calculate the average for each character the highest scores are the happiest compromise for everyone. The real Netherworld thing would be to post a summary of the votes that's wrong and hope I just accept it without counting. W.T. Fits posted:Adell, Rozalin, and Nisa. The Indestructible Gig, Killer of Kings and Destroyer of Worlds, is one a 'protagonist' in Soul Nomad and the World Eaters. He is an awful fucker and yet still nowhere near the worst person in a game full to the brim of awful bastards. I'm working on the update, should be up within a few hours.
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FAT BATMAN posted:Alternatively, dark assembly style! How old your account is dictates how many votes you have!
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Forty-Three: Sibling Showdown We’ve gone through quite a bit, can you believe we’re almost at the end of the main game? Video- “Netherworld’s Guts”  Watch   I’m sure it’s coming from the kidnapped angels. Exactly. But I can’t let you pass beyond this point. Xenolith…! You ignored my warning… How much more trouble do you plan to give me? I am the Overlord. You do know that, right? Did you think I’d just stand aside while you’re having your way with the Netherworld?I’ll tell you one more time, destroy the artifact in your body! I told you I can’t. Xenolith, tell me…why do you need to gather so much magic power?You aren’t trying to become the Overlord, right? I’m not going to answer that. But… This is your last chance. If you back off now, I’ll let you leave unharmed. Don’t be stupid. We will defeat you and then destroy that artifact. And we won’t back down until we do! Then I guess I’ll just have to give it my all to force you…Sicily tries to do something really dumb because she, charitably, is not too bright. Kinda have to wonder if it just runs in the family.  Sicily…? What are you doing? Big Brother, I’m sorry…Xenolith, please release all of the angels… I can’t. If they stop now, the Netherworld will crumble in an instant. Then, take my angel power instead! Sicily! If you do that, you’ll die! That’s okay with me. It’s my job to find all the missing angels.If Big Brother can return the angels, I’m sure the Seraph would help us. He might even find another way to save the Netherworld, right? Don’t be stupid! I’m not being stupid! I just don’t want you to die! You remind me of our mother. Like how you’re trying to give up your life to save mine.But don’t worry, I won’t lose to this guy. Believe in the power of the Overlo--! Believe in your big brother. Big Brother… How was the wait? …I won’t go easy on anyone who tries to destroy my artifact, understand? Hmph! I never asked you to!And you better not take me too lightly! I won’t lose this battle. I’ll put everything I have into destroying you! …I see, you are quite determined. But determination alone will not bring you victory.If you still want to fight me, I’ll show you my full power. You will see absolute despair, and you’ll never think of fighting me again! …So we start the map faced with three Sorcerers on little islands debuffing us, and six Living Armors on No Lifting and Ally Damage 50%. The symbols for those are of course across the bridge. None of this matters compared to actually looking at good old Xenolith, though.   Now we can see Xenolith’s Evility, and it’s rude. Any time you attack him in any way you suffer 20% of your max health afterwards. This includes counters and cover attacks. Large combos are thus kind of counterproductive because they spread damage all over the party. Still, Xenolith doesn’t have a massive health pool so if you’ve got some powerful characters with decent weapons he’ll die in a couple hits. If you feel like this map is a bit easy, that’s because we’re not done here! Video- “Netherworld’s Guts Outro”  Watch … There’s no way the person who’s sucking all the Netherworld’s magic is only that strong! Laharl, I think he couldn’t fight at full-strength because Etna was here… … …Please.I don’t care if I die, just don’t destroy the artifact… Are you stupid!? Don’t be so selfish! The Netherworld won’t return to normal unless we destroy it!Otherwise, why would we have fought you in the first place!? I know it doesn’t make sense… But please… Please tell us, Xenolith… Why do you want to protect it?If magic power is all you wanted, you wouldn’t have put your life on the line like you did. … Wh-What…?Now we’ll get Xenolith’s explanation for all this.  Sister…? Do you mean Etna!? Ever since she was born…she has always had immense magic power…But because she was so strong, she has always been at risk of being killed by her own overwhelming magic. Which is why I risked everything with the Artifact of Absolute Death. So it can drain her magic and save her from imminent death. So the reason you used the artifact was… To save your sister… To save Etna… What? Don’t be stupid! Prince, let’s destroy that artifact already. Wait, Etna! If it’s destroyed, all the magic it absorbed will return to its owners.That means all the magic that could’ve killed you will go right back into you, right? That’s fine. It’ll just make me really strong. …I knew you’d say that, which is why I didn’t tell you earlier.You don’t know the terror of your own magic. Although you’ve grown, you’ll still be crushed by it… Interesting… I’m not as weak as you think I am.You got that? Now hurry up and give me the artifact! IF you really are my brother, then stop making a fool of yourself! Etna…Not that it changes anything.  …Very well. If you must, then please kill me when you do.I can’t handle seeing my little sister suffer anymore… I won’t kill you. I need you to explain to the Seraph everything you did. You’re a heartless Overlord. Now, I shall destroy it!This does, though, because everything goes to poo poo when we try to break it.  What the hell!? Prince! The artifact is absorbing magic at a much faster rate now! Ugh…! Guh…aaaaaahhh!!! Xenolith! H-He’s gone…! I sense immense power coming from up ahead. I think Xenolith is…! Dammit… I should’ve been more careful. I didn’t think the artifact itself would resist…!Let’s go! Dammit…!This then goes right into the next map, which we’ll get to next time. Next Time on Disgaea D2: The Artifact Unleashed
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Welp. Is Xenolith still alive or did the artifact basically eat him?
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Admittedly, I've only been keeping one eye on this thread but basically: Xenolith absorbed Etna's power to save her as a baby The Artifact is too strong and naturally absorbs magic from everything around it The Artifact is absorbing the energy of the Netherworld itself Xenolith kidnapped angels to use as a replacement battery for the Netherworld This would kill those angels This also caused the Netherworld to start growing angel flowers, showing that the angel energy is inadvertently changing the Netherworld and isn't a true replacement That's the gist of it, right?
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Sounds about right, though there's also the assumption that Etna actually is Xenolith's sister. Watch it actually be, uh, Priere or something. Thing that bugs me about this is that if Xenolith had just told people "Uh, I got a world-destroying artifact here, but if we blow it up bad poo poo will happen" then we could have avoided 90% of this plot. Bad communication kills, people!
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