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# ¿ May 30, 2016 23:35

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Brainiac Five posted:

Well, first of all, that's not the only way history could have turned out. It should be possible to implement things like the "freak fleet" which so worried the British Admiralty as Germany, or have Turkey get involved in the war and see a Soviet-Italian duel in the Black Sea, etc. etc. without getting into sandbox or fantasy scenarios (or, say, Player France surviving the Manstein Plan, or the Mers-el-Kebir fleet joining the Free French). Second of all, the Pacific is, like, half of WW2 and if it's an afterthought that makes playing as at least two of the powers kinda dull.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 01:44

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Haha I'm just ribbing. You had fair points

# ¿ May 31, 2016 01:51

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So when they triggered the Spanish civil war, if for example the USA got split between fascists and democrats/republicans, could there be a US civil war? Or is that just a Spain only thing due to the nature of the time

# ¿ May 31, 2016 02:09

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# ¿ May 31, 2016 03:12

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TeenageArchipelago posted:

I think it is a matter of "well, I don't have industry, might as well throw my soldiers at them and hope for the best!"

As far as I can tell, it is. It's designed for the Chinese and I guess other Asian or South American countries

# ¿ May 31, 2016 21:51

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Neobdragon posted:

I agree with this decision, boosting party popularity has always been a sandbox feature for players to craft their own a-historical alliances or to neutralize threats "peacefully". It was already pretty iffy in HoI3 to give the AI access to all the espionage options.

Also anyone know if we're going to get an option to enable being able to see occupied territory, feels weird to roll into a country and not have their original borders indicated by stripes.

US Civil War :getin:

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 05:28

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bewbies posted:

Is this the sort of thing that a relatively uninterested gamer but serious history nerd should buy on release or should I wait for a while?

I had fun with HOI2 as I recall.

Hello hockey friend, you should probably wait a few days. If you want an official goon review I'd keep an eye on the thread

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 16:07

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I can't watch streams because I always basically want to yell at people for doing things

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 17:16

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It's me

I'm the streamer

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 21:24

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Gort posted:

The best wargames have six-hundred-layer simulations of every weapon and piece of equipment a division has while being effectively identical to "US divisions have 12 soft attack, Japanese ones have 10"

The LP I did of Operational Art of War was literally this. So much depth that basically gets streamlined in the end anyways.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 22:16

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bewbies posted:

Any realistic depiction of military logistics would very quickly change a piece of software from "game" to "work you don't get paid for".

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 22:42

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Whens the embargo up?

# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 02:27

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Am I the only one incredibly disappointed in the way Paradox have handled politics in HOI4? You went from the good model and precedent set in HOI43 and DH too something horribly simple, previously you had a collection of political ideologies that logically professed from one side to another

Stalinist > Leninist > Left Wing Radical > Social Democrat > Social Liberal > Market Liberal > Social Conservative > Paternal Autocrat > Fascist > National Socialist

Politics was never too indepth and it added another element to the war, appointing ministers based on their skills, but having to consider dissent hits when swapping out a minister, events relating to scandals and realignments, and parties of certain ideologies drifting you towards a certain faction in HOI3. It also adds that extra large of flavour to the game, seeing the men and women who make up your govemrent and what positions they hood, rather than just having a Head of State.

Yet now your spectrum is simply:

Communist > Democrat > Fascist

It's a horribly simplistic model that doesn't reflect reality at all, and just plays into the traditional motion of the 'axis vs allies'

Hungary for example is Fascist with their ruling party 'The Horthy faction', but the truth of the matter is that Hungary was a parliamentary constitutional monarchy (with Horthy as regent), governed by a Conservative party, they're somehow now fascist under a fictional faction simply because they were in the Axis. Most of the independent Axis powers could fall into this category too other than Germany and Italy, they didn't join the wsr because they fell into the fascist faction and that was the Axis side, most were Conservative constitutional monarchies which joined out of opportunity and through pressure (in game being aligned to a faction in HOI3 by its leader)

Then giving each party a single '''Democratic" party to serve as the Allied aligned parry is just nonsense too, considering nearly all the allies were multiparty democracies, not bland states with 3 parties. The United Kingdoms parliament wasn't just the Conservatives, the Communist Party of Great Britain, and the British Union of Fascists - in fact after the 1935 election, the CPGB had one seat, and the BUF 0, of 100, and the Conservatives still only held just over half the seats, did the rest just vanished. Having the Democrats just become the Republicans (likely the same with Conservatives and Labour in the UK) is a rather sad attempt to address the issue. Previously democracies had plenty of parties of multiple ideologies, and didn't just drift to the Allies because they shared the same basic government form, it seems like simplification for simplification's sake honestly.

As much as some elements are marked improvements I feel like Politics is a major step back, and I can see my hope political systems and ideology limits are not hard coded. That said the coup system at least sounds interesting.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 03:53

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GaussianCopula posted:

Well, I'm really concerned about the state of the AI, given that Arumba just conquered France with just rightclicking Paris and spamming infantry after he tried to attack through the Maginot Line.

What level is he playing on? How many troops did he have? Allies? Dissent? There's a lot of variables

# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 18:37

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I love the unique events, like if Paris is captured by Italy Il Duce rides in the town on a white stallion, or Zhang Jinghui fleeing Manchuria if captured

# ¿ Jun 3, 2016 03:04

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Getting a little nervous about the AI now.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2016 15:47

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Stairmaster posted:

Sure why not.

I'm in dude

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 21:17

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My favorite doomsdaying about this game is people enraged by the Empire of the Platypus

# ¿ Jun 5, 2016 04:20

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gently caress Sweden, Danmark frem for alt andet

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 15:32

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Three goons, one Japan, what could go wrong?

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 18:48

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I'm 96% fascist, when will the event fire for a civil war in a no elections nation?

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 22:58

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Civil war fired, India split in two, all my units are in the small part of India that is not connected to Delhi, so they have no suply :shepicide:

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 23:19

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I had a war between the Comintern and Allies break out while Germany just sat there in awe. The Soviets invaded Persia and there was a long drawn out battle dividing Persia in half, along with battles all the way between Kazakhstan and Pakistan

# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 05:42

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Is Black ICE the one that puts in a ton of SS units?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 22:23

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Furnaceface posted:

As a dumb new guy to the HoI games the AI seems to be pretty fair on the easiest difficulty. Its just hard enough to still be a challenge but a single mistake wont send me angrily back to the main menu. I doubt its intentional but I see the AI sometimes make a mistake similar to one I would do and that makes me feel better about video games.

I'm gonna invade Canada now :unsmith:

# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 22:38

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Phi230 posted:

Any tips for USSR survival? How am I supposed to outproduce Germany every year of the war in every category (as was historical) if I dont even have enough factories to even make new divisions? Let alone tanks/aircraft?

Also being horribly behind in research like all the time

Are you losing lots of soldiers?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 22:43

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Vichy won't join the axis, leaving Germany with a narrow corridor if Vichy doesn't give rights

# ¿ Jun 7, 2016 22:56

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Jeesus. Az and I had a war with China that did not end until mid 1940. Despite great planning we got pushed out of Beijing nearly back to the Korean Peninsula, and our landing in Shanghai had to fight all the way north to Beijing to relieve the northern front since Menguko poo poo it's pants, then we had to slowly push back China who had the aid of both the Soviets and Nazi Germany.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 04:13

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So German carrier navy would be more useful for attacking like Iceland/Canada right?

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 16:29

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Nothing like being invaded by the Soviets as Japan :tem:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 22:18

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Seeing posts on the steam forum asking for Einsatzgruppen and Waffen-SS reprisals last night

:psyduck:

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 13:42

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Turkey is insanely fun. By 39 a group of three of us took Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Iraq, Iran. We were about to invade Pakistan when the Soviets invaded :stonk:

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 17:28

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There was an excellent scenario for TOAW III where Trotsky invades Europe which makes Hitler work with the French

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 19:19

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Fascist/Communist Iraq has tons of potential, but fighting Iran even when you're a bit built up is a total slog. It's '42 and the Iraqi empire is Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Persia, and most of Pakistan

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 03:02

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cock hero flux posted:

It's 1955 and Japan has spent the last 10 years doing absolutely nothing but fortifying the home islands and they're at this point totally impossible to actually invade and they refuse to surrender even though I've spent like the last 5 years delivering an annual nuke to them on Christmas.

They're about to win the war entirely because my CPU is now buckling under the weight of the eternal war(and also the eternal war between the Allies and the USSR which is going on in the background) and I'm reaching the point where I'm just going to have to start a new game because the game's timescale is rapidly approaching 1:1.

They're not impossible to invade. Cut their supplies. Nuke cities over and over.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 04:35

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DeadGame posted:

I'm playing as the Arabian Empire. In 1939, Russia !capitulated! to Germany and the country was split between Germany and Japan. Despite this, an apparently elite group of Swedish paratroopers have taken Berlin and Germany isn't able to get it back. France has taken advantage of this lull to knock back Vichy France. This resulted in my allies pulling out and now Iraq is beating me. Things aren't looking good.

That's a hell of...an "empire" you've got there.

Garrison Qatar, Yemen, and the UAE next time? :cheeky:

As Iraq I immediately blasted into Kuwait as soon as the war started and then tried to develop my navy to a meager point where I could do amphib landings.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 06:37

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What's the best way to maximize manpower as a smaller country? Best bang for buck?

# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 21:04

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 03:38

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idiotmeat posted:

Ok this is really grinding my gears. I have half of North African Italy controlled as Ethiopia. I join the Allies l, and the war is still me against the axis, but now provinces are suddenly flipping to Uk and France, even though they are showing near 100% occupation by ethiopia. This is really infuriating.

It's realism

# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 00:25

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