FFV Four Job Fiesta 2016: Live Free or Zerk Hard (Don't Play Natural)

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Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

I hope this year, if I feel like a second run, I actually complete it.

I have a terrible habit of starting then abandoning second runs for some reason.

# ¿ May 19, 2016 22:31

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 08:52

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Ciaphas posted:

One of these years I'll go read the rules and actually do this.

Maybe it'll be this year???

Hard to when you've never played FFV though vv

You can do it, and you have a massive support network of crazed ff5-obsessed hermits in this thread if you reach a difficult boss.

# ¿ May 20, 2016 00:50

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Tyty posted:

but typically people prefer the GBA version with a patch to fix slowdown.

The GBA version was exactingly coded to replicate the SNES version, to the point where they coded a replication of the bug with agility and some weapons that behaves exactly the same on purpose. The only thing it fixes from SNES is stat underflow, IIRC.

There's also the PS1 version via Anthologies. Don't use it unless somehow you literally cannot play FF5 otherwise, as this game doesn't mesh well with PS1 load times.

# ¿ May 20, 2016 13:42

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Alkarl posted:

Yesssss I'm so excited. I talked a buddy of mine into making the FJF his first run of the game too, so that'll be fun!

Now to convince him to do BERSERKER RISK

Christ, do you want this to be his last fiesta?

# ¿ May 20, 2016 21:59

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

So let's start the most important thing: brainstorming what we're gonna call Bartz.

# ¿ May 20, 2016 22:53

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Dragondarch ran Drakkhen of all games at RPG Limit Break a week or so ago. He has the record on SDA.

The reason he makes bad choices w/r/t grinding and boss strategies is that he's completely insane.

# ¿ May 21, 2016 14:03

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purkey posted:

Anyone remember Carbybot's commands?

All I remember is !speedtrap because alcharagia kept hitting it.

# ¿ May 21, 2016 23:43

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

If you are ever not hype to play FF5 for any reason you clearly have a low INT stat.

Wait FF5 uses an indistinct "Magic" stat, not Intelligence. poo poo.

# ¿ May 22, 2016 03:47

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

Just a clarification, taking Mime or Freelancer from the job fair replaces one of your regular jobs, so it'd be like Knight/Freelancer/Ninja/Dancer, right?

# ¿ May 23, 2016 02:16

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Kyrosiris posted:

Though yeah, if you want to use one of the patches that unlocks all jobs from the start (or use a gameshark code, whatever), that's kosher. That's how I did every run I did last year. It has its ups and downs (4 Bards on Garula is even worse than 4 Thieves on Garula, if you can believe it!).

Bards are even worse at ganking than Thieves and they can't steal mythril knives. Makes perfect sense.

# ¿ May 23, 2016 19:17

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Kyrosiris posted:

It's not quite as in-depth, but I did a Beastmaster Suggested Catches spreadsheet, with recommendations per-boss.

Most of Melly's forms have 90 defense, so there'd have to be some serious running to get the Chicken Knife past it. Besides, having no suggestions is just chintzy.

Bulettes in the desert have a Strong Fight worth around 4k damage. Sekhmet has a 5k damage Strong Fight. The Pythons use Entangle and she doesn't seem to be immune to paralysis, but taking 20-25% of her HP in one Release seems like a better plan to me.

# ¿ May 24, 2016 00:30

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Kyrosiris posted:

https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/735101495528411138

I am intrigued.

Also StrangeAeon, if your hospital gets on board that will be the awesomest thing ever.

Since Natural sucks maybe Upgrade will be good by being incompatible?

# ¿ May 24, 2016 17:19

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Kyrosiris posted:

Either four Mage Mashers and a lot of prayer... or just don't bother.

Wouldn't it be less work to have 1 masher and the other two with more powerful weapons? Either way, if the fastest Berserker doesn't proc Silence he's casting Reset, and the status lasts long enough to cover the other two's attacks.

# ¿ May 28, 2016 19:56

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AlphaKretin posted:

The worst part of the pyramid is that you sometimes can't run. Zephyrus!

1% chance! It counts!

For something!

# ¿ May 29, 2016 21:12

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AlphaKretin posted:

I'll concede that it counts for !Flee, if you have that.

1/4 chance off the chicken knife!

# ¿ May 29, 2016 21:15

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How Rude posted:

final fantasy five is probably the easiest to complete quickly, especially if you don't futz around and grind 20 jobs because you only have 4 available to you in a fiesta

My triple crown with Porkchop (Dancer/Blue/Time/Bard) in 2014 has an in-game time of 19 hours, with a fast-forward on VBA that I can barely control.

I think runs of the later ports of FF1 can go faster simply because you can just stomp on poo poo with fighters.

# ¿ May 30, 2016 20:24

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Nomadic Scholar posted:

Hopefully this time I can make my own way into finishing a fiesta. Wonder what that secret run is this year?

There's something called #upgrade that's mutually exclusive with #natural. And a secret command we suspect is related to everhate's 4-zerker run.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 00:40

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Sneaky Wombat posted:

Does anyone know the level 4 zerkers should be at for NED? Praying to RNGesus is clearly a part of it.

99.

92 is the last multiplier but you might as well get that extra 7% chance off of White Hole.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 01:59

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Sneaky Wombat posted:

Holy gently caress. That sounds like a adventure into insanity. Not sure I love Fiesta enough to do that.

What platform are you on? if you can hold the up button and auto-fire A for whenever item drop prompts appear, you can grind away in the pyramid without much trouble. Thorg has the thief knife in that as he can occasionally steal an elixir from Zephyrus, and at the incredibly slow rate that Berserkers' HP drop in that area you only need to check in every so often to pop a few to keep going.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 02:40

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InfernoBlade posted:

FFV (SNES): 34 hours

I guess, if you 100% the loving thing for your let's play.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 14:12

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Upgrade sounds dull since like no fights but prototype and minidragon in the first world give more than 3 abp. Upgrade with berserker risk might as well be quadzerker with abilities from a random wind job.

Who wants to place bets that I'll finally get Knight or Monk or if this will be yet another fiesta with Thief?

# ¿ May 31, 2016 18:05

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Lovely Senorita posted:

oh god what is Faris wearing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkpS2Sdu2io

# ¿ May 31, 2016 20:37

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Alxprit posted:

I know everybody's excited about Berserkers but I just want to do a normal run so I can use several classes. Should be fun.

That's fine. Do whatever's fun. People like me piling on as many tags as possible are hosed-up masochist addicts.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 22:17

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Samuel Clemens posted:

None of you picked Natural, so you clearly don't hate yourselves enough.

We're being all :getin:

but if we threw in natural it'd be :smith:

saying get in, like "welp, it's time to go to the doctor so I can get an update on my terminal disease."

# ¿ May 31, 2016 23:04

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Simply Simon posted:

can you steal more Aegis Shields?

Theoretically, yes.

Rare steal from these guys in the space section of the Rift. They have a common steal so it's kinda hard to get at 'em.

# ¿ May 31, 2016 23:25

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

Well thank goodness I already know target numbers for Sandworm levels.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 00:39

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Funkutron5000 posted:

For those of you that do multiple runs, do you start over from the beginning each time? Or just keep a save right after the first crystal so you don't need to slog through the early stuff again?

I start a new run so I can name Bartz something weird.

I'm thinking "Butler" if there isn't some "I'll donate if you name him this" thing like Mega64 and Fartz last year.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 02:02

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Way above your level? Wingraptor is literally level 1!

Okay, 1 with its wings open and 2 with its wings closed.

It has 25 speed in either form, making it tied with Bartz and 1 speed ahead of Galuf and slower than Faris and Lenna. Basically, it's tied with your party for speed.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 13:13

Orange Fluffy Sheep: Jul 26, 2008; Bad EXP received

Derra how did you so consistently down Omega? Most jobs can't even hurt him.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 20:40

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Bad Seafood posted:

Somehow completely forgot we were nearly in season for this. I'm excited. Also a little more well-off, so I figured this round I should probably pay it forward.

Tots for Tots

FFV is my second favorite Final Fantasy. My favorite is FFIX. Recently, forums superstar Mega64 ran a pretty good but sadly short-lived LP of the game in which he claimed "No one remembers Doctor Tot," Princess Garnet's royal tutor. As someone who has never forgotten Doctor Tot I was baffled, bewildered, and incensed. How could anyone forget this marvelous, muppet-like man and his truly magnificent schnoz?

Seriously man, just look at that thing.

Anyway, I've since decided to give the good doctor a much-needed boost in popularity. For every person in this thread who beats FFV this fiesta before I do with their main guy named Tot, I will donate $5. I may or may not also change my avatar to Doctor Tot, and keep it for as many days as there are players who beat me. My donation ceiling is a cool $200, meaning up to 40 players can take me up on this offer, but I'll require screenshots of Exdeath's demise at Tot's hands before I start counting out the cash.

This summer, let's remember Doctor Tot.

I feel naked without a z on the end of the name so I'll meet you most of the way there.

7/3/3 is the best approximation of his mustache I could get for the window color. His in-game appearance has much darker hair than the concept art, but I think both are represented in the gradient.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2016 13:06

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Sneaky Wombat posted:

Did anybody see that we are like 3k away from goal and this poo poo hasn't even started?

Who wants to place bets if I'll even get a non-berserker job?

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 03:22

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Sneaky Wombat posted:

I bet you get 1 earth job. Chaos zerker risk will hold no quarter.

Bah, one Earth job is someone who can toss Elixirs during Neo Exdeath.

That's all I have to care about.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 03:55

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1337JiveTurkey posted:

With a Monk, Blue Mage and a Knight in the party, my first instinct would be to give the Monk !Blue, the Blue Mage HP +30% and exploit the crap out of ???? with the Knight covering them.

Nah, you still just spam Aeroga unless you grind to the 60s. But having White and Blue means you could go at some ridiculously low levels, like upper 20s, against NED.

For a lot of party comps you need low 40s levels simply to have enough HP to survive Almagest. But White Mage has Shell which reduces it from 1800 damage to 800.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 13:35

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Bufuman posted:

Even better, Mighty Guard from the Blue Mage. Only takes up one turn there, freeing up the White Mage's turns to cast heal spells and spam Holy.

The problem is actually getting Mighty Guard when Confuse barely has a 10% chance of hitting Stingray.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 13:53

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Edward_Tohr posted:

But what if I take the chicken knife and never run away?

You don't have a fully powered Brave Blade due to not having a Brave Blade, I'd say.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2016 22:29

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Samuel Clemens posted:

What if the Chicken Knife gave you the Chicken status from FF:T?

As long as it doesn't permanently drop below 5 then Krile won't leave.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 03:13

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dis astranagant posted:

In a standard fiesta run the best party you could pull is Thief/Summoner/Beastmaster/Chemist but even then you'll probably regret not being able to negate Neo Shinryu's Almagest with a shield. Archeodemon is the first big bullshit point because you need to either get reflect on him or have a black mage or summoner to even have a chance. And reflect results in him killing one of your guys every time you attack.

Time Mage would be better for Hastega and Quick, and for pummeling Archeodemon with Meteor.

Chemists can mix up immunity to instant death, and specifically make allies Heavy. One mix does inflict Reflect but it also has protect, shell, and regen on it. I don't know if Shadow Flare would trigger his Death reaction, since I've never bothered.

Omega Mk. II is a problem but IIRC you don't actually need to beat him to get to Enuo.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 13:03

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dis astranagant posted:

Doesn't meteor run the risk of his other counter script wiping you every time you try it?

code:

Counter(Var00=00 & HP Damage){
     {Curse,???,Nothing}
     }

As much as anything else, really.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 14:53

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dis astranagant posted:

Yeah, but 4 times in a row rather than giving you time to mitigate that between casts.

Actually it's twice.

For some reason Meteor only triggers reactions twice.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 17:27

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 08:52

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Twelve by Pies posted:

So has anyone had a class that they've never gotten in a Fiesta?

Knight, Monk, White Mage, Mystic Knight.

I've gotten every fire and earth job before, but somehow I have had a avalanche of thieves and black mages (with one token blue) and berserker risk keeps stealing my water job unless I go 750.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 21:36

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