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Here's a fuckin' Nice Guys thread, because people keep saying there should be one in Gen Chat.   It's by Shane Black, and apparently it's pretty good!
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May 23, 2016 02:45
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I Before E posted:It's by Shane Black, and apparently it's pretty good!
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May 23, 2016 02:59
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Even though we don't see Gosling's dick and/or balls, this was excellent. The kid on the bike who keeps offering to show people his dick may have been my favorite character, but this movie was pretty chock full of good child actors. The running joke about Janet being an rear end in a top hat was very satisfying as someone who works with a Janet who sucks.
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May 23, 2016 03:00
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Coffee And Pie posted:Even though we don't see Gosling's dick and/or balls, this was excellent. poo poo, I was gonna see it in the theater, but I just don't want to now.
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May 23, 2016 03:02
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Holly being a real character instead of just "Holland's kid" was a fantastic surprise.
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May 23, 2016 03:02
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Not just a fantastic surprise, but really the heart of the film. Her innocent, naive goodness made the movie. Enjoyed this thought I saw in another site's comment section, speaking about her and about the opening:quote:These kids are left to clean up the messes left by the adults and to remind them of and reinject the decency that they've lost, or had beaten out of them by life, or in some cases maybe never had. That opening scene was a perfect microcosm of the entire film. The fact that the child seeks the perfect fantasy version of a porn star in the magazine, is presented with the inverted horrible real life tragedy of that same porn star's death, and takes off his shirt to cover her up to give her a modicum of dignity in death. Blows me away. Feels like that scene wouldn't have been in a lesser filmmaker's version of this movie and it's absolutely essential.
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May 23, 2016 03:22
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I'm surprised that Russel Crowe killing that dude and lying to Holly about it never came back to bite him in the rear end. I mean, I can't think of a reason how it could, but I was still expecting it. Holly was awesome, but at the same time I was kinda mad at her at times because (not sure if this is spoiler-worthy) no, you are a literal child, stop interfering kept happening. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 23, 2016 |
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May 23, 2016 03:55
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MisterBibs posted:I'm surprised that Russel Crowe killing that dude and lying to Holly about it never came back to bite him in the rear end. I mean, I can't think of a reason how it could, but I was still expecting it. I get where you're coming from but to me it seemed like that wasn't meant to come back and bite him in the rear end, but was just showing the type of person he was - the status quo at the beginning of his character arc. In order to grow and change he needed to be reminded of the decency that he'd lost when confronted with the same situation again, having been convinced by Holly's kindness and decency along the way.
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May 23, 2016 04:22
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feedmyleg posted:I get where you're coming from but to me it seemed like that wasn't meant to come back and bite him in the rear end, but was just showing the type of person he was - the status quo at the beginning of his character arc. In order to grow and change he needed to be reminded of the decency that he'd lost when confronted with the same situation again, having been convinced by Holly's kindness and decency along the way. Yeah. And to go with that, having it bite him in the rear end would dilute the lesson. The point is not that killing people is an easy short-term solution that can rebound on you in the long-term. It's that it's wrong even when it's purely the pragmatic thing to do. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 05:14 on May 23, 2016 |
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May 23, 2016 05:11
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MisterBibs posted:I'm surprised that Russel Crowe killing that dude and lying to Holly about it never came back to bite him in the rear end. I mean, I can't think of a reason how it could, but I was still expecting it. She already knew what had happened to that guy when she asked Crowe, the point was to confront him about it, or maybe convince him to change his approach. Just like she knows her father isn't a bad person, but tells him otherwise because she is not happy with what he's doing. I was discussing with my friend after the movie about how clear of a backstory you get for Crowe through characterization without knowing almost anything about him. He handles the situation calmly like a professional, even if we are never explicitly told how he became so comfortable doing that.
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May 23, 2016 05:26
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Got to see t where the cast and crew were there in person. Yes synth plays when gosling walks by you
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May 23, 2016 13:49
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Big fan of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, so I was absolutely pumped for this... nothing in this approached the high highs of Gay Perry, but it did have a few laughs. I guess I'm once again on the opposing viewpoint of goons as I didn't find the daughter to be a positive addition to the mix; I would have much rather had Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 2 rather than some Cronenberg of KKBB and Iron Man 3's second act.
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May 23, 2016 14:12
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I saw this yesterday with my wife and enjoyed it a lot. I'm a sucker for hardboiled detective stories in general, and Gosling and Crowe both did a really good job of nailing the sense of displacement and not fitting in that I think is really key to that sort of story. It fell a little flat at the very end; having the woman look straight into the camera while saying "You can't bring down Detroit" was too much; all of the other jokes were about the absurdity of the situation itself, and there wasn't really a need to have the director sitting next to me in the theatre, nudging me in the ribs while whispering "man, can you believe how wacky the seventies were? crazy!". That said, the ending where the corrupt auto industry walks and Crowe is just sitting at the bar, thinking about how despite everything he did, nothing ended up changing was excellent. I haven't seen Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, apparently I need to remedy that post-haste.
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May 23, 2016 17:20
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Coca Koala posted:I'm a sucker for hardboiled detective stories in general... Correct.
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May 23, 2016 17:41
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Coca Koala posted:
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May 23, 2016 18:57
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So, Perry the lawyer was totally Gay Perry, right? That dude looked so much like Kilmer.
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May 23, 2016 19:31
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Saw this myself on Saturday to cure the weather blues; nothing like a movie set in LA in the '70s to chase away the rain. It's good! Not quite as good as Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (pretty much Shane Black's masterpiece thus far in terms of both writing and directing), but still really entertaining and more nuanced than you'd expect an action comedy to be. Crowe did his thing, and I really liked that Holly was truly fleshed out as a character, but I think if I had to point to a favorite character, I'd point at Holland March- Gosling was really good at portraying a shady PI who puts more effort into bilking his clients for more money, and I admire how far he went at portraying his character as this incredibly pathetic rear end in a top hat without losing the characters essential core of brokenness and total self hatred. The penultimate scene where a certain word gets erased on something he wrote on his hand is surprisingly and effectively  .
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May 23, 2016 20:37
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My only problem with Gosling's otherwise wonderful performance is his drunk acting. Some actors can nail it, some can't. He did not.
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May 23, 2016 21:12
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I saw it Saturday evening and enjoyed it quite a lot, and then immediately forgot most of it, though during its duration the child actress did strike me as the scene stealer and far more likable than most other childish characters and on par with the two headlining actors as a lead character.
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May 23, 2016 21:29
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This movie was okay, I guess. I loved Ryan Gosling's acting, and I like that he basically made a character around the fact that he has a weenie chicken voice when he shouts (see: Only God Forgives, The Place Beyond the Pines). The playing off of vulgarity and propriety, on the other hand, was dull and uninteresting, and the pacing felt off which I guess is usually a function of editing.
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May 24, 2016 04:43
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What the above said. I went in wanting to like something new and original, but some moments felt off and hamfisted. But Gosling was good.
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May 25, 2016 04:20
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Loved it. Great mix of a good old detective story, clever lines, visual jokes and dark comedy.
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May 25, 2016 09:58
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I really liked this movie and everyone should go see it
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May 25, 2016 21:34
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For a movie that tried so hard to establish itself as being set in 1977 specifically, you'd think somebody would have tipped them off that the London Calling album cover poster wouldn't have existed for almost 2 years after then. Photo taken in 1979 for an album that came out a week before 1980 featured prominently on the bedroom wall supposedly in 1977. Call me a sperg if you want, but I'm just a fan of The Clash and old. Also the poster art for the movie itself should prominently feature the scrappy-doo character, just to be fair to the audience.
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May 25, 2016 21:41
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InfiniteZero posted:For a movie that tried so hard to establish itself as being set in 1977 specifically, you'd think somebody would have tipped them off that the London Calling album cover poster wouldn't have existed for almost 2 years after then. The movie played pretty fast and loose with historical accuracy. Earth Wind and Fire definitely hadn't written the songs at the party by that point, and I heard someone mention a few more on another site. I don't mind those sort of inaccuracies as long as it's just to make a cooler film.
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May 25, 2016 22:18
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feedmyleg posted:The movie played pretty fast and loose with historical accuracy. Earth Wind and Fire definitely hadn't written the songs at the party by that point, and I heard someone mention a few more on another site. I don't mind those sort of inaccuracies as long as it's just to make a cooler film. Yeah I'm normally fine with that too but didn't they mention the exact year a few times? Also don't gently caress with The Clash please. 
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May 25, 2016 22:25
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Who gives a poo poo?
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May 25, 2016 22:29
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I loved the running joke of gosling misunderstanding the Hitler stuff.
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May 25, 2016 23:42
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I went in expecting a Shane Black joint and I got one and it ruled. I missed the great beginning though so I had to wiki it after the film. I'll see it again for sure.
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May 26, 2016 05:52
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InfiniteZero posted:Yeah I'm normally fine with that too but didn't they mention the exact year a few times? They didn't, but it is the kind of story that only could have happened around the time period, and the set was painstakingly made to invoke that period, incorporating newspaper headlines, TV reports, movie marquees, etc. I loved that myself, it's always great when films tell you the time and place a movie is set without some big obnoxious title cards (Brooklyn was really good about that too), but the thing is, they obviously put so much detail into the sets that those who are familiar with the period will just notice any flaws all the more.
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May 26, 2016 14:57
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Coffee And Pie posted:Who gives a poo poo? My delicate world was rocked and I think I left the theatre as half a person. Seriously: the whole movie felt "off" to me, so I was probably distractedly looking around at sets by that point which is why I ended up giving a poo poo. I don't really care much anymore because I've already promptly forgotten about 90% of the film by this point.
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May 26, 2016 15:50
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The part where March dives for Healy's ankle gun, only to realize that he had dreamt that, was loving amazing.
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May 26, 2016 19:58
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"Let's play a game. It's called 'Everyone Shuts Up But Me.'" "...I love that game." feedmyleg posted:My only problem with Gosling's otherwise wonderful performance is his drunk acting. Some actors can nail it, some can't. He did not. I thought in the sequence at the party they were going to reveal that the bartender slipped him acid or something. Gosling's "drunk" is most other actors' "tripping balls."
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May 28, 2016 05:24
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What I like is that they clearly knew that Ryan Gosling is likable enough that you can cast him as a total gently caress-up and still have the audience not reject him entirely. Granted the daughter helps (and she is awesome) but it's a good use of the actor. This is very much the kind of mid-budget movie that they don't make much of anymore, and people have been pointing it out, so to see it done well is very nice.
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May 28, 2016 05:49
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Wanderer posted:"Let's play a game. It's called 'Everyone Shuts Up But Me.'" I think maybe something might've been cut there because it makes a show of them pouring him a drink in that scene. He doesn't really act the same way when he's drunk later on.
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May 28, 2016 08:59
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Yeah, I assumed the bartender slipped him something because he was harassing the dancer.
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May 28, 2016 11:43
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of my favourite movies ever so I was excited to see this, not least because Ryan Gosling is great in comedic roles. Definitely no disappointment here, Crowe and Gosling played off each really well, there were at least half a dozen scenes that had me almost crying with laughter. Holly was a fantastic character and I loved the relationship that showed through between her and her dad. That said despite the many similarities I don't think it's as good as KKBB, the older film just felt that much 'smarter' than Nice Guys. The central mystery wasn't as interesting either, but it's still I think the best comedy I've seen this year. I hope Black continues to write/direct like this, I really like his style. Oh and if you're wondering about going to see it, DON'T see the trailer first, it spoils some of the best jokes. victorious fucked around with this message at 11:57 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 11:53
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Thinking on it, they do kinda "reveal" the mystery well before they normally would in a movie of this type. I figured there had to be something Amelia wasn't saying that complicated things, but nope, it's Detroit trying to kill everyone.
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May 28, 2016 19:56
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resurgam40 posted:They didn't, but it is the kind of story that only could have happened around the time period, and the set was painstakingly made to invoke that period, incorporating newspaper headlines, TV reports, movie marquees, etc. I loved that myself, it's always great when films tell you the time and place a movie is set without some big obnoxious title cards (Brooklyn was really good about that too), but the thing is, they obviously put so much detail into the sets that those who are familiar with the period will just notice any flaws all the more. There was actually a title card at the start which said 1977.
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May 28, 2016 23:30
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Alexander Hamilton posted:The part where March dives for Healy's ankle gun, only to realize that he had dreamt that, was loving amazing. This and the Nixon thing were amazing.
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May 29, 2016 22:42
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