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STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

paulie is still the worst person this season how can anyone think otherwise

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Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

violetdragon posted:

The people defending Paulie in here and calling Da'vonne "ghetto trash" are really gross.

People also don't seem to get that Z has a history of abusive relationships, which break you down emotionally and make you think that behavior is normal and what you deserve. People don't just magic themselves out of abusive relationships and screwed up views about love by having a few people tell them "your partner is horrible garbage." She probably needs tons of therapy to get better.

Nobody is defending him. Just going to casually gloss over where I called him jersey boy trash, eh?

But hey, keep on seeing things only as you want to see them, rather than what they really are.

Tide fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Sep 16, 2016

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Day did look bad by continually escalating to the point where she was ridiculously standing on top of Paulie but calling her "ghetto trash" is incredibly racially loaded lol.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Don't care never cared

It's like some of you have never been around honest to goodness stereotypical representations of anyone but white people, and ERMAGAWD somebody said something about a black gay not white person BIGOT RACIST GET THEM WAAAH please don't make jokes on a former comedy forum because it huuuuurts

Go post on tumblr and feel better about yourself (this statement is not directed at you fast luck)

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I soured on Da' when she turned really gross with her gloating in Tiffany's goodbye video. Talk about not wanting to set a bad example for your daughter...

obliriovrons
Jul 18, 2009

Tide posted:

Don't care never cared

It's like some of you have never been around honest to goodness stereotypical representations of anyone but white people, and ERMAGAWD somebody said something about a black gay not white person BIGOT RACIST GET THEM WAAAH please don't make jokes on a former comedy forum because it huuuuurts

Go post on tumblr and feel better about yourself (this statement is not directed at you fast luck)

Do they not have Big Brother threads on 4chan for you to post on

Eb
May 6, 2003

violetdragon posted:

Literally on the same page as your post:

Hey take a crack at this sentence: "Compared to serial killer Albert Fish, Davonne is a scholar and a gentleman".

I can assure the thread I hardly find this Paul Calafiore much of a scholar at all!

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I am a very big Not-A-Fan of Da'vonne, but holy poo poo. Ghetto trash?

Yeah, gently caress off to 4chan with that nonsense.

Orange Sunshine
May 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
I don't think 4chan talks about Big Brother.

They're too busy checking each others' dubs and posting deviant porn pictures.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Orange Sunshine posted:

I don't think 4chan talks about Big Brother.

They're too busy checking each others' dubs and posting deviant porn pictures.
Wanna bet?
There's been a /bb/ thread daily since the show started.
Ian has popped in occasionally too.
Oddly enough, those threads have been quite civil by 4chan's standards

4chan is obsessed with Bridge and Big Munch.
They soured on Natalie pretty quick but like her tanning pics by the pool.
Plenty of good meme to go around.
And, of course, there were dubs to check.

That said, Day was looking for any opportunity to light up MY BROTHER PAULIE any chance she could when the cameras were on. I have no doubt Bridge had been needling her along as well for weeks. She clapped with glee when Day and Paulie started to get turnt up. And then when things went pear shaped she seemed confused and uncomfortable.

How soon we all forgot the passive aggressive poo poo the women were doing to each other earlier this season. With the cast of Z, Bronte, Munch and Day ostracizing Bridge for gently caress-all of reasons.

Remember the Stuffed Giraffe B-Day party? I do. Remember Z throwing away Bridgette's cake mix for her birthday the few night's previous? I do. Remember the countless bitch seshes in London? I do. This is why an all girl alliance will never ever work and it's comical to try in a game like this.

The jury house needed some more guys other than Paulie in there because he couldn't keep up with all of the saucers of milk to quench the cattiness brewing in there. Sure, Paulie is a chauvinistic fuckstick and deservedly need to be raked over the coals for it but last I checked; Day, Bridge and Z went well before he did. A product of their own hubris.

Seems like a bunch of bitter sour grapes narrated and reworked into some sort of social justice cause. I've seen this ride before.

Paul to win.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Hmm, only Day went "well before" Paulie. Bridgette went out right before him in a double when one of the only people that couldn't win HOH for her won, and Zakiyah went right before that and she went because of Paulie. While it's fair to say women's alliances never seem to work out, I don't think it makes sense to cite Zakiyah being a cruel bully to Bridgette as a reason why. Zakiyah is just a hosed up person and every season doesn't necessarily have a Zakiyah. So is Meech heh. Also what, Bronte was mean to Bridgette? I thought they were friends.

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD
Can't all you babies just agree that this season is 100% full of stupid bad players who are all bad people? Literally everyone has done something lovely to someone in that house maybe with the exception of Glenn who was barely there long enough to get a word in but if his RHAP appearance is any indication he, too, was a douchebag.

I for one loved the jury house scene because it was a way to have these 2 stupid bad people get shown on national television for the stupid bad people they are. Good television.

Muddy Burphy
Dec 4, 2010

The #RXT REVOLUTION has two words for ya..
SCOOP IT!

:frogc00l:

he knows...
Da'Vonne said that Paulie only gets in womens' faces, but did any of the men confront him? The closest I can remember was Paul gently telling him he was going home the week he had his breakdown.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Muddy Burphy posted:

Da'Vonne said that Paulie only gets in womens' faces, but did any of the men confront him? The closest I can remember was Paul gently telling him he was going home the week he had his breakdown.

Well the only time he had issues with the guys in the house he cried so...

He had some heated conversations with Victor when Victor was HOH and had nominated him, but he never antagonized him. He had a heated exchange with James but that wasn't on stream so we don't know how that really went outside of what little the broadcast showed which was him telling him that he better win HOH, and he apologized soon after and cried when James betrayed him again.

To be fair, the girls were the ones who stood up to him more directly. Meaning they confronted him specifically about his behavior, which set him off. The guys never really confronted him on stuff like that, so he never felt personally attacked by them. That said, I also don't really recall him being as disrespectful about any of the guys as he was with the girls either. Paulie is someone who threatened violence against Michelle(?) outside of the house but I never heard him speak that way about one of the dudes.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

ToastyPotato posted:

Paulie is someone who threatened violence against Michelle(?) outside of the house but I never heard him speak that way about one of the dudes.
I seem to recall MY BROTHER CODY was also big talk about getting into people's faces but when the chips fell he did jack poo poo because Derrick was his meat shield. Cody also was one to light up on a woman rather than a male. I guess it's a Califoire thing and Paulie is even more of the confrontational type while Cody just talks like he is.

I don't defend Paulie's behavior and actions at all but I do think we are all getting a bit heated over what boils down to a dumb teevee show.

Orange Sunshine
May 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
There have been numerous references on the show to the fact that Michelle cries and throws up all the time. Why does she throw up?

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

She puked from hanging on in that moving rope carousel challenge - got dizzy I guess.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Orange Sunshine posted:

There have been numerous references on the show to the fact that Michelle cries and throws up all the time. Why does she throw up?

There's no proof, but she definitely seems to have an eating disorder.

I actually think her portrayal for the comic book challenge was incredibly cruel and heartless of production.

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD

Orange Sunshine posted:

There have been numerous references on the show to the fact that Michelle cries and throws up all the time. Why does she throw up?

She also had some issue early on where she was eating constantly and popping fiber pills like they were candy to poo poo out the calories. She's a mess.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

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Propaganda Machine posted:

There's no proof, but she definitely seems to have an eating disorder.

I actually think her portrayal for the comic book challenge was incredibly cruel and heartless of production.

I wouldn't say "no" proof.

We have:

Her weirdly negative comments about overweight people.
Her worrying about gaining weight to the point of tears.
Her eating habits.
Fiber pill abuse.

Fedelm
Apr 21, 2013

It's called Ursa Major, not Ursula Merger. And that's not even it. That's Orion.

Teek posted:

I soured on Da' when she turned really gross with her gloating in Tiffany's goodbye video. Talk about not wanting to set a bad example for your daughter...

I agree. She has displayed some poor sportsmanship, just as too many other people did this season unfortunately.

Tide posted:


But, and as much as I hate to say it, he was right.


Focusing on the literal truth of his statement is missing the point. I don't think Paulie was speaking out of concern for Da'vonne's daughter at all or that he really cares what kind of example Da' is setting for her. I don't know if he said it for any reason other than to set Da' off and make himself look like the calm and rational one.

Besides, Da' can be right about some things, too. So? It wouldn't justify her behavior any more than Paulie's rightness about anything would justify his. There's a whole context to that confrontation so I'm not sure about boiling it down to such a small part of the story as "he made a correct statement and she went berserk."

Robnoxious posted:

Remember the Stuffed Giraffe B-Day party? I do. Remember Z throwing away Bridgette's cake mix for her birthday the few night's previous? I do. Remember the countless bitch seshes in London? I do. This is why an all girl alliance will never ever work and it's comical to try in a game like this.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how this means an all-girls' alliance will never work. Do you think it's inevitable that women will behave this way with each other? (I think there are female HGs who do believe this, creating a nice self-fulfilling prophecy.)

Propaganda Machine posted:

There's no proof, but she definitely seems to have an eating disorder.

I didn't watch the feeds at the time so I don't know what exactly Michelle said, but one of STAC's updates in the spoiler thread mentioned this:

STAC Goat posted:

Also, since we were talking about it Michelle admitted to having an eating disorder to Natalie. It was in response to Natalie saying she doesn't have a scale or "count calories" or do FitBit stuff because she had one in the past. Which sort of sums up the difference between them, I think. Natalie seems to have self esteem issues too but she recognizes them for what they are and responds in a healthy way. She says when this is over she's just going to run a lot. On the other hand Michelle said she's going to read about herself online and "hopes" she gets depressed so she stops eating.

Fedelm fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Sep 17, 2016

Britt Burns
Nov 24, 2007
Biscuit Hider
LOL this is the "Paulie is a Shithead" show :woop:

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Propaganda Machine posted:

There's no proof, but she definitely seems to have an eating disorder.

I actually think her portrayal for the comic book challenge was incredibly cruel and heartless of production.
I agree, she's 100% got body dysmorphia, but she's not actually fat, and they make her fat in the comic? Yikes, that will probably mess with her for a long time. Messing with people is super funny like when you're saying Austin is smelly or something but not when it's an actual mental health issue

Savahontas
Jun 13, 2005

I say..
Yea buddy!
Rolling like a big shot,
Chevy tuned up like a Nascar pitstop

Fedelm posted:

I'm sorry, I'm not sure how this means an all-girls' alliance will never work. Do you think it's inevitable that women will behave this way with each other? (I think there are female HGs who do believe this, creating a nice self-fulfilling prophecy.)

Right, good point. Natalie and Bridgette were genuinely friends and the kind of real life women that I know - I hope casting gets more girls like them in the future. I think the all girls alliance is coming.

And for the record "ghetto trash" is not cool and not friendship.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, the all womens alliance is a thing that can and has worked in similar shows. Survivor had a rather infamous, if somewhat forced due to the season theme, example in One World, were the women's tribe stuck together and were strong throughout. They more or less rallied alongside a competent level headed woman who set the tone and ended up winning the season. It's the main hook which makes any good alliance work, a inspirational person that people like and respect and with whom they want to work with. Derrick to a lesser extent was that same factor two seasons ago.

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Savahontas posted:

Right, good point. Natalie and Bridgette were genuinely friends and the kind of real life women that I know - I hope casting gets more girls like them in the future. I think the all girls alliance is coming.

And for the record "ghetto trash" is not cool and not friendship.

Not that I agree with the insult or would say it myself... but... Day does brag about being from Inglewood and how she dont play.

TheRecogScene
Aug 22, 2010

I'm gonna miss you when you're gone.

patonthebach posted:

Not that I agree with the insult or would say it myself... but... Day does brag about being from Inglewood and how she dont play.

It's pretty common for people who are from marginalized groups or areas to use the things other people are marginalizing them for as points of pride or empowerment. A woman of color self-identifying as ghetto in an attempt to get a white man to back off is much different from if that white man identified her as ghetto to discredit her emotions. The context is definitely more important than the actual content.

I also think Da has every right to feel hurt by Paulie because she's watching one of her best friends in a relationship with somebody awful who was specifically awful to her, and it has to feel like being betrayed.

I also hate Big Meech's comic book cover, which was definitely unfairly cruel. She is also an unfairly cruel person, but hers is definitely stemming from self-esteem issues. I might be too much of a skeleton warrior to enjoy this show anymore.

TheRecogScene fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 18, 2016

Savahontas
Jun 13, 2005

I say..
Yea buddy!
Rolling like a big shot,
Chevy tuned up like a Nascar pitstop
^ that was much more eloquent, thank you!

patonthebach posted:

Not that I agree with the insult or would say it myself... but... Day does brag about being from Inglewood and how she dont play.

Equating being from Inglewood with "ghetto trash" is precisely why the comment is problematic.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



Savahontas posted:

Equating being from Inglewood with "ghetto trash" is precisely why the comment is problematic.

To be fair, Inglewood IS always up to no good

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Savahontas posted:

^ that was much more eloquent, thank you!


Equating being from Inglewood with "ghetto trash" is precisely why the comment is problematic.

I dunno, representing yourself as being from somewhere that is known as one of the birthplaces of gangster rap? Don't get me wrong, I dont think Day is any worse then the rest of the cast of deporables in this season.

But I dont think its necessarily racist to call her by a stereotype she plays up by her own accord.

Just like if you knew a white guy from the deep south that has a rebel flag and blasts skynyrd all the time, you can call him a redneck rear end in a top hat.

obliriovrons
Jul 18, 2009

patonthebach posted:

I dunno, representing yourself as being from somewhere that is known as one of the birthplaces of gangster rap?

lol

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

patonthebach posted:

I dunno, representing yourself as being from somewhere that is known as one of the birthplaces of gangster rap? Don't get me wrong, I dont think Day is any worse then the rest of the cast of deporables in this season.

But I dont think its necessarily racist to call her by a stereotype she plays up by her own accord.

Just like if you knew a white guy from the deep south that has a rebel flag and blasts skynyrd all the time, you can call him a redneck rear end in a top hat.

No, you can call him a racist rear end in a top hat.

:gas:

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

REMEMBER THAT TIME WHEN THIS THREAD DID THAT THING THAT WAS SO HILARIOUS?

*Slow dissolve fade out*

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
James: Corey and Nicole was my favorite showmance!

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




https://mobile.twitter.com/BBTruth/status/764931216340611072

TheRecogScene
Aug 22, 2010

I'm gonna miss you when you're gone.
I can't believe they bothered to do two separate flashback episodes this year. The ratio of re-hashed content to not-yet-aired feeds footage is always so far in favor of rehash. I wonder if the houseguests are purposefully trying to give terribly delivered intro lines to those segments, or if they're all legitimately bad at acting.

I thought it would be a fun idea one season to just be like, "hey, here's some booze, we need you guys to reminisce about stuff at the table, but we won't actually guide what you talk about; we'll just edit it together based on what you want America to see." That's a potentially dangerous game though, considering how much the TV portrayals differ from the full view on the feeds.

Savahontas
Jun 13, 2005

I say..
Yea buddy!
Rolling like a big shot,
Chevy tuned up like a Nascar pitstop
This noir croc thriller is legitimately really terrible. I would have preferred 42 mins of DR outtakes.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Adam for Over the Top:

http://www.phillyvoice.com/from-big-brother-winner-to-drug-felon-cherry-hill-native-needed-a-reality-check/

Seriously though, it's good that it sounds like he got his life back together.

Popero
Apr 17, 2001

.406/.553/.735
Is there a way to watch CBS live tonight online as the finale airs? My antenna was giving me poo poo last night, so I'm worried about it flaking out on me again.

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ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

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Popero posted:

Is there a way to watch CBS live tonight online as the finale airs? My antenna was giving me poo poo last night, so I'm worried about it flaking out on me again.

I believe All Access allows you to stream live broadcasts. :v:

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