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error1 posted:I'm sorry that robots are currently stealing your truck driver job, OP. There's nothing we can do about it, progress is relentless. The LIDAR system that the Uber and Google systems use don't work in precipitation, which makes them useless 150 days of the year here.
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It's me, I'm 80,000 lbs of freight in a robot semi that you can hijack with a $30 squirt gun.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:09
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Butthead posted:Autopilot should not be blamed for any of the accidents as the driver has the ability to override it any time and should be aware of what is happening. That would make sense if they gave their lane assist system a sane name like Mercedes did, instead of "autopilot."
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Jul 15, 2016 15:12
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EugeneJ posted:Goddamn you're still going Words matter. If you call your lane assist system "autopilot," people are going to assume it drives the car for you. It's negligent.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:17
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I mean, I'm 100% cool with a car that murders rich stupid manchildren, but that's not a good look on Tesla's part.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:19
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Wow already more than 80 people killed by self driving cars, maybe you aren't all a bunch of chicken littles Maybe self-driving cars will be ready in thirty years.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:23
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It is completely possible to stymie a Google self-driving car as a cyclist just by standing with your bike at a stop sign.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:28
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Maybe I don't give a gently caress what your hot take on technology is but I just find people like you hilarious You're aware that they don't work as they are now in precipitation, right? How is a vehicle that refuses to work in rain or snow at all useful in most of the country? How is "doesn't work 150 days a year" a hot take? Maybe they'll work that out in thirty years.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:32
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EugeneJ posted:Didn't you admit you don't drive cars and you're whiny about self-driving cars because you're afraid they're going to run you down while you're walking/cycling through your white neighborhood What does any of this have to do with whether or not they're feasible?
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Jul 15, 2016 15:33
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Smart GBS technology guy: "They don't work if it's rainy, kill people if it's too sunny, and have a 125 mile range? Roll that poo poo out, we're ready for prime time!"
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Jul 15, 2016 15:34
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runupon cracker posted:well that's certainly a step up from claiming they'll never work I've been saying they're decades off since I started posting about it, which is also the opinion of the guy in charge of the project at Google. These threads are full of people who know nothing about them but think they're going to be commercially available and rolling around on a street near you any minute. That's not happening. We are not "mere years" away either. You're kidding yourself.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:36
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EugeneJ posted:You're a sad little man with bad opinions that don't reflect reality Big words from a guy championing a self-driving car that gets confused by a squirt gun.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:38
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Sorry boss, have to take my 130th vacation day. I can't get into work because it's raining.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:40
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Again , how dont you see, I couldn't give a gently caress less about any of this , but the fact that even though you don't really know any technical details about any of this but feel qualified to speak as a common sense expert by piecing together other peoples broad "common sense" takes ion the technology and have spent pages ranting about irresponsible companies using this knowledge is hilarious. But maybe one day they'll finally make an electric motor that can generate enough torque to accelerate The "electric motors don't make torque" was someone else, not me. It's an acknowledged fact that the LIDAR systems don't work in rain. That makes them useless in most of the country. You couldn't give a gently caress less about anything that interrupts your preconceived notions? Got it. Keep living in that fantasy world, your anime future is right around the corner.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:50
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Anyone with information that contradicts your preconceived notions is a dumbass and a douchebag? Cool. Don't let me interrupt this fantasy world you're building in your head.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:54
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"Self-driving cars will be here any minute" - GBS guy who mostly posts about video games and doesn't know what LIDAR is
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Jul 15, 2016 15:55
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Anybody who spends pages rambling on about something they don't really know anything about and doesn't really matter is a loving loser and a tool, so yes in so many words. If this is how you act when someone contradicts your weird little fantasy, I'd hate to see what you say to your mom when she tells you to turn the console off and go to bed.
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Jul 15, 2016 15:57
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You have nothing to add, you just come in and attack people for no reason on a subject you don't know anything about. Let the adults talk here.
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Jul 15, 2016 16:04
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Guy who knows things: "Car doesn't work during precipitation, which makes it pretty useless as a primary mode of transportation" Video game guy: "nice hot take, retard"
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Jul 15, 2016 16:05
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Guy who is not very good at coming up with clever "guy who..." Posts: 
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Jul 15, 2016 16:46
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I can't wait for self-driving cars to finally be available to the general public in thirty years. Gonna make my life a whole lot easier.
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Jul 15, 2016 16:51
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https://forums.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/easy-bypass-put-hands-wheel-autopilot-nag-71-review-tips Tesla hosts a thread on their forum explaining how to bypass the dead man's switch on "autopilot". Thanks for helping to decapitate dumb rich people, Elon!
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Jul 15, 2016 18:44
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The year is 2046, because that is thirty years from 2016. I use my mobile app to summon an Uber autonomous cab to take me to work. It arrives with several major body panels missing. The door pops open and I slide into the back seat, careful to avoid the piles of feces and used needles littering the floor. The car shudders off like an old shopping cart, because two of the tires are blown. "This is progress," I think to myself.
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Jul 15, 2016 19:24
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Edit != quote
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Jul 15, 2016 19:25
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:post in this thread every time a person dies because a car was driven by a human and not a computer If computers were available that could feasibly drive cars right now, this would make sense. Sadly, they seem to be thirty years away.
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Jul 17, 2016 06:14
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sudonim posted:I think this is a good opinion and people will ignore it In this thread because they'd rather attach their ego to the time frame when full auto cars will be viable. I went over that already and some dumb rear end in a top hat said that no one in their right mind would EVER think that "autopilot" means it drives itself.
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Aug 18, 2016 19:47
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Moridin920 posted:this is p funny actually because just this morning I read an article about how Uber is having automated cars (in partnership with Volva) rolled out this year I am in Pittsburgh and I have only ever seen an Uber autonomous car in one place, a flat and gridded, completely predictable area. They are going to have two people in the car at all times in case the inevitable happens. This isn't a "rollout", it's a beta test they're conducting on customers. A person who knows more about it than you or I said thirty years, sorry if that fucks up your dreams for an anime high tech future.
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Aug 18, 2016 19:51
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They literally do not work in the rain, which means they're useless 150 days out of the year here.
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Aug 18, 2016 19:52
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No one moved goalposts. This is a beta test. Call me when they can drive themselves without human intervention across the sort of conditions you can reasonably expect to be normal (i.e. snow, rain, and so on).
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Aug 18, 2016 19:54
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GBS Man: "There are two people operating them during this beta test, clearly cars are ready to drive themselves at any moment"
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Aug 18, 2016 19:55
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Moridin920 posted:Cool well if they can't go from Beta test to full commercial production in less than thirty years then you might be on to something lmao Ford has already shown a willingness to kill their customers, so no surprise.
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Aug 18, 2016 19:55
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Moridin920 posted:CEOs of major automotive companies: "this tech will be on the streets in 5-10 years" You're entitled to your opinion. In the meantime, give me a call when they're capable of driving in real world conditions. http://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-bad-self-driving-cars-suck-in-the-rain-1666268433
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Aug 18, 2016 19:58
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Moridin920 posted:so Uber Ford and BMW and dozens of other major investors are pouring billions into a product they expect to have ready by 2021ish and you're sitting there going 'nope, it won't be ready until the 2040s because currently they are bad in the rain.' http://io9.gizmodo.com/5821954/1970s-nasa-film-predicted-wed-colonize-space-before-the-year-2000
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Aug 18, 2016 20:00
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It's great here, on the moon, which NASA said we'd colonize by 2000.
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Aug 18, 2016 20:00
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Like I said, send me a PM when you can go to the car dealer and buy a car that drives itself in every condition you would now be expected to be capable of driving in. (Hint: It won't be by 2021).
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Aug 18, 2016 20:02
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It is mind-blowing how many people there are who are emotionally invested in living in a high tech Neo Tokyo and get enraged when you suggest it may not happen soon.
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Aug 18, 2016 20:03
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Moridin920 posted:it's mind blowing how you reach this conclusion, and not simply the conclusion that we don't believe you when you say X but everyone else from CEOs of major automotive companies to start up engineers to programmers are going 'this will be done within a decade or two.' I'm not the one saying it's thirty years off, the director of the project at Google is. http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-...ades-for-others Waiting for that PM.
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Moridin920 posted:oh you mean the dude that just left that project lol Sounds like he knows something we don't We can sit here and argue about this all day, but we've been on this merry-go-round before and it degrades into people who are like Star Citizen enthusiasts but about this technology calling people who have serious questions about it "retards". PM me when you can go to the car dealership and buy a self-driving car that can work in any conditions you would reasonably be expected to drive in.
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