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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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kickascii posted:

I believe abusive = sexy to a lot of women.

I'd say "dangerous" not "abusive". Lots of ladyporn is all about dangerous men tamed by the love of a good woman. Not abusive, he'd never hurt his dependants, but dangerous enough that no one else will ever gently caress with them. Like Liam Neeson in the Taken movies, he's very dangerous but not at all abusive to his own family. There's nothing sexy about a guy who beats his kids.


Could be some hosed up :biotruths: wires getting crossed between what made a fella a good catch thousands of years ago and what works best in modern civilization. The modern cavemen who are still giving off signals that they might be good at fighting off predatory wildlife or raiding parties or whatever are mostly criminals and losers with anger issues who are failing at life.

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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Chomp8645 posted:

The Nice Guy is coming from inside the thread.


Some women might like the imagery of a bad boy but I feel very few actually like what they perceive to be dangerous men unless they themselves are a broke brain or a teenager still living in fairy princess land. I'm practically a pacifist and don't look like I would ever hurt anyone and I really don't feel that's ever held me back with women.

Yeah, I agree. I snipped off the bit where he mentions ladies who chase convicted felons and whatnot, because I was specifically addressing "abusive". As a lady, I see very few indications that women in general find abusive men attractive. There are some indications that many women find the idea of bad boy or dangerous man attractive, but not one who is flat out abusive.

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Oct 4, 2008

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lonesomedwarf posted:

wow you dont even wish me a nice day in return? well i hope you have a horrible day and many bad things happen to you i regret ever saying that i hope you have a nice day. gently caress you, i hope you die

:(

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Pick posted:

If you want a woman you have started dating to have sex with you, I recommend not defaulting to doing something that suggests to her that she is in danger

It's fine if you live in a musical tho.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie_yGU


Yep.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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i like that posted:

I commented in this white noise poster's thread with something he didn't like. He subsequently followed me into another unrelated thread in order to quote me to tell me again to go/stop posting. I never interacted with him before. Some guys just have issues...

Here's a cool thing to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQfBt_GxYaI

Don't forget to read the comments

What I don't get is that if, as a guy, you don't actually want to be friends with women and think the only reason to date is for sex . . . why not just masturbate? Masturbation is awesome. Easy orgasms without any negotiation or drama. Why get bitter about how hard it is to get a lady to help you have orgasms when orgasms are so easy to have without one? Lefty and Righty never let you down.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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a hole-y ghost posted:

That's the premise of the Men Going Their Own Way subset of men who are mad at women for all of their problems

Whenever I see MGTOW I always think it is something about Magic the Gathering. Dudes ain't got time for no wommens, too busy playing card games.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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afeelgoodpoop posted:

wtf are you autistic? why do men want romantic love? am i reading this right?

Did you watch the video I quoted? It goes on for several minutes about how absolutely everything an attractive young woman* ever does, says or thinks is shallow, selfish, inane, detestable or destructive. According to this video, women have zero redeeming qualities except their sex organs. "Men use women for sex, women use men for everything else."

Sex is great and all, but if you think attractive young women are universally horrible monsters, why would you ever want to be in an intimate relationship with one?





*Specifying attractive young women here, even though the video doesn't, because I assume some of them think their grandmas are cool people.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Groovelord Neato posted:

i always feel bad when a woman has to turn me down when i text for the second date or whatever cuz after they say no i say it's cool they go aww you're one of the good ones which lets me know how often guys are fragile shitheads when reacting like a normal human to rejection makes you one of the "good ones"

Yeah, it can be pretty baffling. Some guy on an MMO messaged me after I said something in a public chat. I was polite, didn't think much of it. It took me a couple minutes to realize he was hitting on me. In an MMO. :what: So I politely said something like "I'm flattered, but I'm not interested right now." And then he goes off and passively aggressively messages me over the next half hour about who he's a great guy and it's my loss. In an MMO.

I was baffled and stayed polite, but I was thinking: "It's an MMO. You don't know what country I'm in. My age. You don't even now if I"m really a girl, or just a guy with a feminine name. I could be fat, hairy, wall-eyed, be covered in burn scars and have a penis. Why is this guy getting bent out of shape over a 'girl' he knows literally nothing about?"

:psyduck:

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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You think you're talking to a normal adult and then suddenly

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Oct 4, 2008

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The Endbringer posted:

I asked a girl out and she was like no but thanks, and we were good friends after that. She set me up with one of her friends, but when we started getting serious she started bitching at me for actually liking this girl. I was like dude, you're the one who set us up in the first place.
It's not like I even bought her poo poo and all that usual friend-zone stuff, I was baffled.

Yep. Humans can be lovely.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Don Tacorleone posted:

Actually there's guys out there who will murder anyone, regardless of gender

Your obsession with men who will rape and kill you is disturbing and you probably need therapy

Are you a woman? Because as a woman it seems pretty normal to me. Like, if you don't constantly suspect every guy around you of being a potential rapist until proven safe, and then you get raped, people will blame you for being careless and trusting a rapist. Seriously. You shouldn't have been alone with him, what did you think would happen?

The only women I've known who weren't concerned about it were "party girls" who were basically out to have a good time and if a date turned weird and wouldn't take no for an answer their plan was just to go ahead and sex with him. The old "If a dog is running at you, whistle for it" strategy. Obviously that wouldn't work if he turned out to be a murderous psycho, but can work on the run of the mill date rapist who thinks he's owed sex because he paid for stuff.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Pot Of Shoe posted:

I'm a woman and I'm wondering if maybe there's some hyperbole being used that is confusing me because when I am in a room with men or I interact with a man I don't immediately think "ook girl, this person is a potential rapist and murderer so be on your toes." Usually it's "wow I already forgot this person's name, why do I do this?!".

It's not just being in the same room with any penis-haver. But, for example, I'd be much more likely to accept a ride in a car alone with a female acquaintance than a male acquaintance.



Pot Of Shoe posted:

And I also think that we are at the point in society where we can acknowledge that there are more than two types of woman: either paranoid constantly vigilant normal woman or PARTY SLUT. Maybe I'm just a party woman.

To be fair, I'm old and I haven't really made any new friends since the early 90s, so maybe everyone is just more relaxed these days. :shrug:

Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 8, 2016

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Oct 4, 2008

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

Several centuries of patriarchy would like to have a word with you.

Eh, I think of them more as "society's rules" than "men's rules". In conservative subcultures women and girls get more shaming from other women than from men. It's the women's job to teach girls to be ladylike. It isn't like men were ever getting together in secret meetings to think of ways to oppress women. Stuff just sort of happens.

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Oct 4, 2008

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SciFiDownBeat posted:

for me at least, it's hard to distinguish when people are railing against "the patriarchy" versus men in general

I'm not evil, I swear! I don't want to oppress anyone, I just want to be your friend! :saddowns:



Are you a patriarch?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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ElGroucho posted:

LOL at a grown loving man wearing a video game shirt trying to impress a lady

Go buy a dress shirt and grow some hair you bald bitch

Just kidding bald dudes, you're alright

This!

I saw pictures of a goon meet, an EVE goon meet, and among the sea of ratty t-shirts there was a guy in a nice dress shirt that unexpectedly made my heart go pitter pat for a sec. It was a casual event so the top couple buttons were undone, and in the later pics he had his sleeves rolled up. It probably helped that he was the skinny nerd type rather than the fat nerd type, but he was still another nerdy computer janitor who cares way too much about internet spaceships and doesn't get enough exercise or sunshine. A clean shirt that fit him well made a huge difference in attractiveness vs. the ratty t-shirt crowd.

Some guys try that and go way too far tho. The nice dress shirt was paired with jeans, because it was a goonmeet, not the opera or whatever. He wasn't wearing a tie, a suit jacket, or a fedora (which can just make you look like a kid dressing up in your grandpa's old clothes).

Dressing like a grown up is hard. :(

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Oct 4, 2008

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Same.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Moridin920 posted:

The worst someone will do is say no in a mean way and after posting in GBS there's basically nothing a stranger in real life can say to me that would actually make me sad/upset.

GBS is pretty awesome for that. The first time some goon said something rude to me I was really taken aback, but I kept making bad posts and getting insulted for them and now it doesn't bother me at all. :justpost: Plus I played some online games with goons, where you get strangers throwing every insult in the book at you just for having a goon tag.

After a few years of goonism someone in real life insulted me and I involuntarily burst out laughing, because it was such a weak burn. It felt great! GBS didn't cure my sadbrains social anxiety, but now if things do turn awkward IRL it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it used to.

Thinking about it now, this may be the best 10 bux I ever spent. I love you guys!

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Dreddout posted:

Your posts are nauseating to read and I uncontrollably cringe whenever I see your av.







Love you long time, Facebook Aunt! :wink:

The cringe thing makes sense. Spanish Manlove made a thread where if people did a thing he would give them one of Aaratek's old avatars. I did not do the thing, but I did post in the thread, and surprise! So basically I have the avatar of a child molester.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Decebal posted:

I wonder how our Copper Age ancestors did courtship or if they had these kinds of difficulties ?

I couldn't have been all rapes all the time, could it ?

You probably grew up in a tribe or village of less than 200 people. Basically everyone you know is related to you. There might be a few adjacent groups who you sometimes trade with, intermarry with, raid, or go to war with, but they're probably your distant cousins too. It's never a matter of trying to pick up a stranger in a bar, because there are no strangers. Your marriage prospects are pretty obvious.

In some cultures it would be even easier, because you don't choose at all. Your parents start thinking about your marriage prospects from the time you are a little kid. They will make an agreement with a compatible family, and when you are old enough that's who you pair off with.

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Oct 4, 2008

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cnut posted:

The saddle rubs their clit.

Like a sybian, before there were sybians.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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So are all these dogs bitches?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Relevent:

http://www.theonion.com/article/man-entirely-different-misogynist-online-real-life-53328

quote:

Man Entirely Different Misogynist Online Than In Real Life

CHATTANOOGA, TN—Explaining how his subtle belittlement and disrespect for women in face-to-face interactions had little in common with the bold, outspoken manner in which he degrades women when he’s on social media or website message boards, sources reported Tuesday that local man Colin McManus is a totally different misogynist online than in real life. McManus, who is said to regularly post brazenly offensive tirades in YouTube comment sections dictating how he thinks women should behave and stating which female public figures he believes deserve to be sexually assaulted, reportedly keeps such opinions entirely to himself in person, instead favoring small jabs at female acquaintances’ decision-making abilities and regularly discrediting women’s emotions by casually claiming their reactions are overly sensitive or melodramatic. Sources confirmed that whether McManus bitterly inveighs against women’s sexual activity in long, slur-ridden outbursts or issues softly worded slights or praise that tie a woman’s appearance to her worth depended wholly on whether he’s sitting alone in front of a computer or engaged in an actual conversation in his workplace or social setting. At press time, McManus was said to be looking down at his phone, attempting to quietly undercut a female coworker’s opinions by denying eye contact and ignoring what she was currently saying, while at the same moment discovering he had been blocked on Twitter by another woman he regularly threatened.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Oct 4, 2008

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Cumslut1895 posted:

this is bordering on delusional. There are plenty of legitimately ugly people.

I didn't know Seinfeld was a goon.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-a64OwOYqU

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Oct 4, 2008

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Tequila Sunrise posted:

Pick already admitted that she lies about stuff and uses SA as her fantasy world, so I wouldn't go to hard about arguing with her probably make-believe disabled friend.

Unless she was lying about lying.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Ratjaculation posted:

No point in getting a nice yacht mate, whore bitches will just jump on the first rusty tug that has cash

But . . . the implication.

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Oct 4, 2008

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lohli posted:

I don't get why people trying to be nice and friendly has to mean a borderline autistic gush of awkwardness where they play out one side of an embarrassing encounter with a high school girl they're crushing on.

Lack of experience. They were shy and awkward in high school, so they didn't try to make new friends nevermind romantic stuff. Social skills are skills. They have to be learned.

It's like if you tried learning to play the clarinet when you were 12, when other kids were first getting into band. The first time you try it squeaks and you're embarrassed, so you drop out of band so you don't look foolish. Most of the other kids keep at it, looking foolish and sounding awful, and by the time you're 16 it seems like everyone you know has played a tune, but you're still an unskilled squeaker. If you try joining band now you're going to look even more foolish than if you'd started learning with everyone else. So you go play videogames instead. You never learn that skill.

You can learn social skills as an adult, just like you can learn musical skills as an adult, but it's going to be more difficult and take more effort than if you'd just learned when everyone else learned.

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Oct 4, 2008

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mind the walrus posted:

Can you regularly guess guy's junk from their pants? I mean really. You can kind-of answer this yourself.

You could in the 80s. Just watched Sleepaway Camp the other day, and I'd completely forgotten (or blocked out) what mens shorts looked like back in the day.



BTW, if you never saw it, it's on Youtube. It's weird, most of the teenagers appear to be played by actual teenagers. Maybe that's why there is a distinct lack of titties for a slasher film. (The ending is NSFW though.)

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Oct 4, 2008

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Grand Prize Winner posted:

Is there like a happy opposite of nice guys? Like, dudes who are total dicks and just accept that their lovely behavior and attitude prevents them from getting laid but won't stop because being a jerk is kinda fun?

MGTOW

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Oct 4, 2008

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Mr. 47 posted:

These are coming back into fashion again? Dear God.









These are great.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Having thought about it for a few hours, I think those introduction cards are fine. An unambiguous signal that doesn't require an instant response. Nobody is pinned down in an awkward social situation. Nobody has to think of a graceful way to accept rejection.

If you get a card and you aren't interested, you just toss it and that's the end of it.
If you are intrested, you go ahead and make the call with some assurance the other party is interested in you as well.


I like you do you like me?
_ YES
_ NO

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Oct 4, 2008

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WampaLord posted:

How can you not include _ MAYBE here?

Gotta hedge them bets.

drat, I knew I was forgetting something. Too many years since elementary school.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Leroy Dennui posted:

If I was an old-timey lady, I would definitely consult the spooning business guy. The other old ones are pathetic while the new ones are creepy and reek of social ineptitude.

Social ineptitude is fine tho. It seems like every third goon has some crippling social anxiety or something. Social anxiety doesn't make you a bad person, a bad friend, or a bad romantic prospect, it just makes it harder to get started.

A shy boy and a shy girl might be a perfect match, but if they are both too shy to make a move the world just ends up with another cat lady and another bitter incel instead.

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Oct 4, 2008

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CharlestonJew posted:

Why don't any of these dating cards include a dick pic cut to the chase dudes

It's on the back.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Yeah, women don't owe it men to make themselves pretty. If you want to slick your hair down and wear an ill-fitting suit you can do that. But it's kind of ridiculous to then get upset that men don't treat you the same as the ladies in the sexy evening gowns.






Yep, that's a female nice guy.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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The man is not trying to get into my pants. How rude.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Benny Harvey posted:

Tbf, some women could probably pull off that look pretty well.

I don't know what look she could pull off.

Eh, I'm sure a good stylist could come up with something that suited her, fit well, and looked good. Leslie Jones is 48 and not a conventional looking starlet, and she had some good looks for the red carpet. I'm sure whoever was sitting next to her would have been happy enough to make conversation.




Again, I'm not saying any woman owes it to anyone to wear a fancy dress, make-up, and try to look conventionally attractive. But to dress in an ill-fitting suit and then get butthurt that a stranger didn't flirt with you is weird.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Benny Harvey posted:

Did she actually get upset about that?

"I was sitting next to Odell Beckham Jr., and it was so amazing because it was like he looked at me and he determined I was not the shape of a woman by his standards.

He was like, “That’s a marshmallow. That’s a child. That’s a dog.” It wasn’t mean — he just seemed confused.

The vibe was very much like, “Do I want to f*** it? Is it wearing a … yep, it’s wearing a tuxedo. I’m going to go back to my cell phone.”

It was like we were forced to be together, and he literally was scrolling Instagram rather than have to look at a woman in a bow tie.

I was like, “This should be called the Metropolitan Museum of Getting Rejected by Athletes.”

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Oct 4, 2008

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Wow. Is he wearing makeup, or does this kid just have flawless skin? drat.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Oh my god, that skin, those fingernails. I want to marry him and make beautiful daughters.

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