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How about some beginner advice in the OP? Fourth: Beginner Advice Congrats, you've chosen your martial art and you've made it to your first class. Here's some beginner advice to maximize your enjoyment: * Don't be an rear end in a top hat. Show respect for your instructors and fellow students. Follow gym/dojo rules. Show up to class on time. Check your ego at the door. Pay attention when instruction is being given. * Leave the teaching to the instructor and higher ranked students. Troubleshooting with your training partner is fine, but you're new so check with the instructor to ensure you're not complicating a simple problem. * Use the proper protective equipment. Especially when sparring or using weapons. Ask your instructor what you need. A fitted mouthguard is a good start. * Always practice personal hygiene. Sparring and doing drills with unhygienic people sucks. Take a shower after class as soon as possible. Launder your uniform. Keep your finger and toe nails trimmed short. Cover open wounds. * Don't train while you're sick or have a skin infection (e.g. ringworm). Do yourself and your training partners a favour and watch Netflix instead. See the first bullet. * Give yourself time to recover when you're injured. Your +35 year old self will thank you. fatherdog posted:A big part of your continuing training is going to be figuring out the difference between hurt and injured. Everyone trains hurt. Try not to train injured. * Have fun! Martial arts is a life long hobby. If you're not enjoying yourself or don't like the vibe of your current gym/dojo but still want to learn the martial art, go and try another gym/dojo. * Seriously, don't be an rear end in a top hat. That's what SA is for.
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TheCardhouse posted:Just went to my first BJJ class ever and it was pretty different from what I was expecting after reading a decent amount about others' first experiences. The gym was way more packed than I expected, there must have been 50+ people there. September is also a time when a lot of gyms get an influx of new people and that was probably their way of dealing with it. Ask the instructor if it's usual that many students in one class - if not then you'll have a good chance to roll and drill with experienced students. If it is normally that many students in a class I would try a different school.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Thanks. It's just small cuts on my fingers I've noticed today, stemming from training last night I reckon, wouldn't dream of training with open cuts or anything. I keep everything covered, finger tape, rash guard, gi, even yoga socks to cover my feet if there's any cuts on them (much to my teammates' amusement). I'm big on hygene too, showering before and after, fresh uniform every class etc. I DO have dry skin though, have done since I was a teenager. I normally use standard shower gell, would you or anyone else be able to recommend anything better? Cheers again. I get ashy after a shower. You could get a gel for sensitive skin or that has aloe, but the best solution is moisturizer. I was getting cuts at my old judo club and moisturizing my feet and hands before class helped.
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Agean90 posted:Yeah definatly if I'm doing martial arts it's for fun and getting fit, not use. Do your choices have a website you can share? Ask yourself if you want to hug or use weapons. I get a way better workout in grappling than when I did kali escrima. As for fun - grappling is fun but plenty of grind and be prepared to suck before it gets better. While for arnis the drilling/sparring with rubber knives and sticks is really fun.
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Entenzahn posted:Now that I'm about to start boxing I'm actually getting a bit worried - how much damage can the sport do to your brain? If I'm anxious about this sort of thing I should probably leave out sparring, but is boxing without sparring still useful? Working the bags and mitts will get you a good workout and used to the mechanics of throwing good punches and combos, but sparring hones other skill sets that you only get from practicing against a resisting opponent - proper head/body movement, defense, and knowing how to react after getting punched (as well as getting used to being punched). There is head trauma from sparring over the long term but head shots at the weekend warrior level won't be too bad. Be smart about it to minimize the risks - wear head gear and mouth protection, as well as being aware of signs and symptoms - headaches, light headed, dizziness, etc. If you do experience signs and symptoms then take a break from sparring for a few days or even a week. Bangkero fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Entenzahn posted:Alright, thanks guys. The course is only going for 90 minutes a week so I'll do as you suggested and only spar occasionally with protective gear on. In the long run, is Muay Thai better in this regard or should I generally steer clear of striking arts if I'm overly worried about brain damage? Generally for most gyms the sparring should be done at 60-75% maximum especially for non-competitive teammates. There's usually a separate class time for anything greater (a sparring class or fighters only class). If you're at a gym that will allow beginners to spar at 100% maximum then consider switching gyms. Since you're starting out, get a feel for the gym, hit the bags first and learn some punches and combos. If you like what you're doing, then think about whether you want to try sparring. I'm sure your coach can help you out at that point when you discuss it with him.
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ElectricBlizzard posted:Ive been doing Boxing and Kickboxing twice a week for a bit now and am looking to add an extra day of some grappling/ground work somewhere. Kali/arnis/eskrima should always be viewed as a weapons based system first and foremost. If you want to learn how to fight with a stick and knife - go for it. It's fun, especially if the school has sparring. But if you want to learn grappling and groundwork - find a grappling based system. BJJ is a good choice for learning submissions.
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Grandmaster.flv posted:Bumping this thread since it's been over a week. Grappling: ha, count me in for also working on my butterfly guard. Just generally trying to tighten it up - grip fighting, proper positioning, attacks - arm drags and butterfly sweeps. For submissions, I've been practising knee on belly -> d'arce -> neck crank. Striking: Coach has us working on hooking off the jab to change up the rhythm. And defense. Always defense. Injuries: Became one year older two weeks ago and last week was the first time I've ever strained the outside of my hip from running around playing ultimate frisbee. So now I'm out for the next couple days. Yay to getting old. 
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KildarX posted:Neck cranks all day. Win by hansoku-make bitch get your neck cranking leg locking berimboloing weak rear end poo poo outta here.
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The Gracie breakdown of man vs panda was pretty amusing. Anyone have any experience training at Miller Brothers MMA or rolling against people from their gym? http://www.millerbrothersmma.com/ I have a chance to visit them next week if I can sneak away from my cousin's wedding festivities.
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himurak posted:I roll/box/muay Thai there. I'm very new to the sport all around so take from my experience what you will. The people there are very helpful and friendly and there's tons of experience in the gym overall. There's ample Mat space and the gym is open for a good chunk of time during the week. It has enough weights and cardio to supplement an actual gym membership. I would definitely recommend them. Thanks, I'm trying to sneak out either Wednesday or Thursday. Just don't know if I'd get more out of the advanced gi on Wednesday or the advanced no-gi class on Thursday.
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The Gerbi choke was banned once the IJF caught up with the rules. However, if you have a lovely ref for your match you can maybe borderline get away with the peruvian neck tie since it captures an arm and can be made to look like a blood choke.
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No one ever saw Rocky working his cardio by sparring his way up those god drat steps.
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Grandmaster.flv posted:You took your girlfriend to a gym presumably filled with athletic men that like to dominate with their hips and you are a goon that likes anime. Anyway my point is hoes are gonna ho no matter if you're a goony anime lover or athletic buff socialite. So yeah, victim blaming is still dumb.
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Subyng posted:Ah okay. My former uni runs classes and you don't have to be a student to join, $110 for a semester 2 times a week sounds like a steal then. For other cheap clubs that give good instruction you can try Ronin Judo and Annex Judo. All 3 clubs are vastly different from one another so it will mostly come down to personal preference. If you don't mind dropping more than $100/month in the city for 2x week, another option is to check out Revolution MMA. I think they still offer judo classes plus you'll also have the option of checking out muay thai and BJJ. e: I can't read - $110 per semester is pretty cheap. Bangkero fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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bowmore posted:in all seriousness thanks for the replies
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My autistic teammate won his first ever kickboxing match yesterday by TKO. It was just a local smoker, but he's been excited to fight for a while so we were super pumped for him. The highlights of the match was him sprinting to the ring ala ultimate warrior style once his name was called and his victory speech which was just him shouting unintelligible poo poo in to the mic and doing the Ric Flair "WOOOO" at the end. We had a good laugh. What I really wanted to share was that the event had an all female judges panel and I thought that was awesome. Pryor on Fire posted:I heard there used to be a guy that visited my gym occasionally who also complained about his wraps falling apart. His name was Conor. Conor McGregor. Funny thing though: apparently he only had this problem with his left hand. I'm having it with both hands. You might be talking to a loving god in the making, tread carefully you little twerps. CommonShore posted:Related question for the thread, then -
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Will do, and if you want - PM me your address and I'll ship one or two over to you.
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CommonShore posted:Eeeh don't worry about that. No sense in letting the shipping companies double dip - but I appreciate the offer. If they don't look like mini rolls and if you say they're decent quality after having tried them, I'll just order my own. I'm going to probably resell 2/3 of them to other people at cost anyway - that's what I did when I ordered 40 mouthguards.  Let me know if that's clear enough. It's more flexible than hockey tape but definitely no where near as flimsy as medical tape. JaySB posted:Wait are you trying to defend Aikido? I think Ligur is moreso defending sparring light as a training method. Sparring light (and flow rolling, kata, drilling, or hitting the bags) will certainly refine the mechanics of the technique, which is part of the question Quidditch posed. As Conor McGregor says "upgrading the software without damaging the hardware". A good gym will have a wide range of training methods, and many of us are in agreement that gyms (such as aikido) that do not use sparring as a training method miss out on honing other skill sets that you only get from practicing against a resisting opponent -- proper head/body movement, defense, adapting the technique, and knowing how to react after getting punched/thrown/choked/etc. (as well as getting used to the feeling of being punched/thrown/choked/etc.). But in the end it really depends on what you want out of your martial art. Who gives a gently caress if you're having fun and getting a workout if that's your goal. A lot of people in my MMA gym won't spar or only roll lightly since they're really there for the workout, learn techniques, and enjoy the social aspect of a team workout. Are they any better than someone who trains wing chun or aikido? Are they any better than someone who trains in a wing chun gym that spars? 
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JaySB posted:Yes Trick question - I would tool the poo poo out of both groups before crushing them under my basic kesa gatame hold down.
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CommonShore posted:Kesa gatame may be basic but it scales well with your skill:
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Subyng posted:Are there any common BJJ techniques that don't exist in a typical Judo syllabus? And conversely are there Judo ground techniques that you wouldn't see in BJJ? Many judo techniques you will see in BJJ since there's a lot of overlap, but some techniques aren't so common like the judo flat turtle position (which is mainly for stalling until you're stood back up) and attacks to counter the judo flat turtle position. I'd say that judo ground techniques are very fundamental compared to BJJ, due to judo's olympic ruleset to favour stand up fighting and BJJ evolving the ground game so much over the years.
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Subyng posted:Like Americana or Kimura? Positional differences in newaza? That's a lot of information - what do you want to know? In a nutshell you want to work to get to an advantageous position for the pin or submission. A good beginner book to read is Stephan Kesting's roadmap for BJJ book: http://www.grapplearts.com/bjj-books/ . It outlines the hierarchy of positions. Did you try out the judo classes already? How'd you like it?
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Subyng posted:Yep, I'm having a lot of fun! I did jiu jitsu before so I'm already familiar with the techniques so far. Nice, great to hear you're enjoying it. I did TJJ and made the switch to judo since it's one thing to know the techniques and another to know how to apply it in randori. Both BJJ and Judo totally compliment each other but I really recommend you try other BJJ schools before committing to one. There are so many good schools in Toronto that you're bound to find one that you vibe with. Keep the thread posted!
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In fact, box and wrestle at the same time.
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LionArcher posted:As someone who's done aikido for going on 20 years, worked security, and trained with a couple of special forces dudes, the amount of time is key. One year of aikido isn't going to get you fighting ready like a year of BJJ or MMA, but five years + is when it starts being effective. I was in the old thread and people told me it was bullshit and go train at a real gym and see how it worked out. So I did, and cross trained for a bit because people were telling me it wouldn't work. I handled myself just fine, but in the end I prefer aikido. I may go to a different gym at some point, because I do agree that cross training helps everyone. The gym just wasn't my favorite I suppose. * a black belt judoka or BJJer of 20 years? * a brown belt judoka or BJJer of 10 years? * a blue belt judoka or purple belt BJJ of 5 years? * a green belt judoka or blue belt BJJ of 2 years? If you can handle yourself just fine or prove a point that aikido's effectiveness against a black belt judoka or BJJer of 20 years (equivalent to you), then great - you've put in equivalent mat time and can claim that you handled yourself. If you're still getting tooled by these calibre of opponents, then you didn't really handle yourself just fine. As you mentioned, you have to compare how much mat time will it take to get an aikidoka ready vs a bjjer/judoka ready for self-defense. Comparing your skill by going up against the white belts of other martial arts (or against someone not trained at all) is purely to feed your ego. And that's okay if it's your goal, I'm just calling you out on an unfair comparison as a fellow martial artist. LionArcher posted:I have seen plenty of (bullshit) aikido along the way, but characterizing the whole art as bullshit is a bit much. LionArcher posted:I'm not saying for somebody starting off that doesn't have my Organization around that it's the best self defense art. I'm just saying that there are still plenty of aikido practitioners that are solid martial artists, and can handle themselves just fine.
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CommonShore posted:I did some jits last night wearing shorts as opposed to spats or gi pants for the first time in over a year. How do you monsters do that? Why would anyone want to grapple in shorts? Practicing for the streets muthafucker.
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The last injury I sustained while sparring kickboxing was the day after the TJ Dilishaw vs Dominick Cruz fight and I tried to execute a Dominick Cruz style slide step -> switch stance -> step through jab but ended up falling over and rolling my ankle pretty bad.  Muay Thai/kickboxing is great, although I only spar with strikes once a week nowadays (not including light sparring) cause yeah, I value my brain. In the next few years I'll probably cut out sparring with strikes totally. Aging is such a cruel unforgiving beast.
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willie_dee posted:At the same time, if he had of turned to face me, I'd of hosed him up.
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gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:Honestly I feel like grappling sports are way more dangerous because if someone doesn't play safe you have a lot of chance to bend/break someone badly or put way too much body weight on a bad area. The most fun sparring I've done is kali knife fighting so have fun with that! kimbo305 posted:This is a good discussion. Thinking to the last person to ask "why isn't there more striking chat in this thread?," Kind of the same reason why I don't attempt flying armbars or jump guard when rolling.
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I'd say that everyone taking any martial arts is given a false sense of confidence for self-defense scenarios, not just cardio boxing/kickboxing or touch butt in the park. We should all be running away from or getting out of a street fight ASAP like the goony pansies we are. (points 1 and 2 of the OP)redgubbinz posted:Out of curiosity I dipped into the middle of the thread and found the ten page argument...oops
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I currently train with a cop and we're both blue belts but he's about 15 years my senior. I have no good stories other than to tell you guys that I hope I have abs as nice as him when I'm his age. 
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Yo xguard there plenty of good schools in Toronto and the GTA - where are you staying? I third OpenMat as a top choice. Other schools you can check out are: Evolucai Thai, Primal MMA, and Innercity MMA. Ronin Judo is pretty dingy but great for judo and has late adult classes. Plenty of really good Muay Thai schools as well - Old School Muay Thai, TKMT, Krudar Muay Thai: K1, e: I forgot Siam No. 1. For JKD/FMA there's Fighting Arts Collective. Toronto's also got good systema and krav maga schools if that's what you want to do.  If you're not staying downtown, there are other schools that could be closer and have good instruction as well. Bangkero fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 1, 2017 |
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That was a great video, thanks for sharing. A true martial artist right there.
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kimbo305 posted:Which gyms might be the cheapest/ coolest for dropping in for a day and sparring with folks? For the coolest, I'd choose Siam No. 1 - it's over on the west end but it's conveniently along the subway and it's Ajahn Suchart's school, who's a Muay Thai legend in Canada. For downtown, I'd consider Old School Muay Thai, which is run by a former student of Suchart. Krudar caters to more yuppy kickboxercise types and plenty of people say good things about TKMT (they're always at street events putting on sparring demos) but I've been told their lineage is kind of shady (if you care about that stuff). In case you're interested, Toronto also has a good San Shou scene although I don't know much about it. The Hong Luck Club in Chinatown has classes and Apex San Shou is a well known competitive school, although way out on the east end. manyak posted:Bazooka kickboxing. Come spar with Joseph Valtellini, Matt Embree, and to a lesser extent me
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Subyng posted:Do you know how much it costs to train at openmat? I heard from someone that it's around $170/month which sounds really steep. Were you able to try out other BJJ places or did you stick with your current one?
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Subyng posted:I'm going to give Openmat a try this month. Unfortunately aside from that and TorontoBJJ no other places offer significant trials. I think I'm leaning towards TBJJ just for the convenience of their schedule.
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Kekekela posted:I still haven't watched it tho cus I'm a complete wus.  . The Darlok posted:Yes and no. I'm pretty sure I never posted, as far as I can tell he just threw me down at the perfect angle. 
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