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 Click here to enter your info / Click here to find goons to play with / Somethingawful Division Discord ADVICE FOR NEW PLAYERS IN THE SECOND POST  The official Twitch channel which features State of the Game almost every Thursday So I heard this game was a garbage fire shitshow but it's good now? Since Update 1.4, the endgame now feels as good as it did leveling up to 30. The PVP has been more balanced than ever, allowing you to run many different builds depending on your playstyle. World Tiers - Once you hit level 30 and increase your Gear Score as you acquire loot (and there is a LOT of it now), you unlock World Tiers that determine enemy toughness and loot quality. Once unlocked you can switch to any tier at any time (except in the Dark Zone). High End items and Gear Sets drop at the level of the World Tier you chose, and even drop from trash mobs. Difficulty settings determine enemy type and the amount of loot. Damage Scaling - In 1.3 you could get one shotted by Dark Zone NPCs and needed three clips of ammo to kill them. Scaling makes sense now and if you have good gear you will feel powerful again. Solo Player Friendly - All activities except Incursions now scale from 1 to 4 players. Loot and Caches - Did I mention the game shits appropriate high end loot at you now, even from trash mobs? After level 30, every 400,000 xp you earn gets you a Field Proficiency Cache which contains loot and Phoenix Credits. You also earn caches from Daily and Weekly Assignments, and caches are also available for purchase (with credits, Phoenix Credits, or Dark Zone funds) from vendors. Open World Bosses - Bullet King and his 14 boss friends respawn every 4 hours. High Value Targets / Search & Destroy - You get more Intel from S&D, HVTs cost less intel, there are more HVTs (40 more enemies added to the pool), and reward more loot and phoenix credits. Even S&D missions reward appropriate level gear score loot. Loot types now drop from HVTs at equal frequency; they are no longer weighted towards Lone Star gearsets. Incursions - Falcon Lost has checkpoints after each C4 round. Instead of giving you specific gearsets, each Incursion gives you types of gear. (Falcon Lost: Gloves and Masks, Clear Sky: Body armor and Holster, Dragon’s Nest: Backpack and Kneepads) No more DLC exclusive gear or weapons - Expansions will be about more places to get loot. You won't need expansions to access any specific armor or guns. Stash Size Increase - Stash increased from 75 items to 150. Loadouts - Save equipped Weapons, Gear, Skills and Talents to 6 Loadout slots per character, allowing for quick swapping of builds when out of combat. Dark Zone map expansion - Explore three new areas to the north of the Dark Zone, which doubles the DZ in playable space. Dark Zone XP and Funds - You no longer lose XP and DZ Funds when you die if you are not Rogue. Dark Zone Landmark rewards - Clearing a Landmarks now awards DZ XP, DZ funds, and a clean loot item deposited into your backpack (doesn't need extraction). Dark Zone Leaderboards - Earn rewards in the Dark Zone by participating in weekly and monthly activities tracked via the new Dark Zone leaderboards. Dark Zone Contamination Events - Players must manage their health as the virus eats away at their filter while battling against powerful Cleaners. Clear each Dark Zone subway of Cleaners to earn extra rewards. Like Supply Drops, you do not need to extract these loot rewards. Legendary difficulty - Pit yourself against elite LMB forces equipped with superior gear and advanced tactics. Legendary difficulty strips missions of all narrative and focuses purely on combat scenarios. Premium Vendor - A new microtransaction vendor in the back left corner of the Terminal which sells cosmetic items and emotes for Premium Credits (real money). Exotics - Special named High-End gear items have special bonuses. Named Weapons (like the Pakhan, Midas, etc.) are now Exotics and have all new special talents. Global Events, a monthly PVE playlist with modifiers and exclusive rewards. Earn event exclusive face masks from Commendations. https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:152-293355-16&ct=tcm:152-76770-32 Commendations, a combo of Destiny's Record Books and Grimoire score, which grants special rewards (including new arm patches). https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:152-293999-16&ct=tcm:152-76770-32 Classified Gear, more powerful versions of existing gear sets with new 5 and 6 piece bonuses. https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news/152-294372-16/update-17-classified-gear 1.8 - RESISTANCE was released December 5, 2017 and is FREE for all players. It includes a map expansion (West Side Pier) with new narrative elements, a Horde mode, 4x4 Skirmish PVP, a revamp of Rogue mechanics ("Rogue 2.0"), updates to Underground (including Hunters), Gear Optimization, and more. 1.8 Reveal Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Addk7cl5smg 1.8 Patch Notes https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news/152-315417-16/update-18-resistance-patch-notes West Side Pier map expansion spread across two zones, where all the enemy factions unite against the Division. This will be open for all players and features a new Camp Clinton social space. Features dynamic missions and enemy spawning, as well as new audio logs to collect. Gear Optimization - Use Division Tech to max the stats of any guns or gear. Division Tech will be available in the West Side Pier as well as the Dark Zone. Resistance - Up to four Division Agents have to take on waves of enemies from all factions, earning currency to unlock new areas, activate fortifications, buy new equipment, etc. (Think Call of Duty Zombies.) Skirmish - 4x4 PVP. Score the highest number of kills before the timer runs out. Rogue 2.0 - Friendly fire is off and Rogue status must be manually toggled on. Clear your Manhunt status at a terminal and earn rewards based on your Manhunt level (up to level 5) Underground - Hunters have been added as random spawns, and can drop Exotics, Classified gear, and "cool masks." Bosses and rare chests can also drop Exotics and Classified gear. Checkpoints have been added so you no longer lose progress on death. The "Rave Room" from the intro mission has been added to the rest of the Underground. SEASON PASS AND EXPANSIONS  Season Pass and Year One Content Trailer Season Pass owners get all 3 expansions, exclusive cosmetic outfits, special starter weapons and gear, extra consumables and special ammo/grenades, and a bi-monthly Supply Drop: An airdropped loot crate guarded by a mob of elite NPCs. Underground Expansion I Trailer The Underground: A procedurally randomized dungeon system. "Directives" are modifiers (such as no radar) which increase difficulty and the amount of rewards. Every Underground Rank you level up earns an Underground Cache containing two loot items with a chance for a bonus Exotic. Also includes exclusive Incursion Dragon's Nest. Survival Expansion II Trailer Survival: 24 agents spawn at random points on the map, armed with only a sidearm. You have to scavenge supplies and gear to fight off enemies and get into the Dark Zone, secure the experimental antivirals, build a flare gun, and call in a chopper for extraction. You can choose PVP or PVE modes. You can't kill other players in PVE but still have to compete for loot. Once you call in the chopper, you have to fight a new elite NPC faction called Hunters, rogue agents who fight like real players. Last Stand Expansion III Trailer Last Stand: The organized 8v8 PVP mode set within the DZ, accessed from a kiosk in the Terminal. Also includes exclusive Incursion Stolen Signal. Last Stand gameplay details: http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-US/news/152-282198-16/intelligence-annex-#13-taking-a-stand Roman fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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ADVICE FOR FIRST TIME PLAYERS LEVELING UP:A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yeah for new people playing the campaign, here are the rules: - Don't bother with Hard difficulty story missions until you're level 30. The extra rewards are minimal and aren't worth the trouble at low level. - Do side missions and Encounters (which you need for base upgrades anyway), not just main missions. This should keep you comfortably like 1-2 levels ahead of the requirements for Normal difficulty missions - Don't worry too much about buying guns/gear before level 30 unless your drops are unlucky and you really need an upgrade for something. - After max level 30, XP goes towards earning loot caches. Consider saving some of the collectible items (cell phone recordings, laptops etc.) as they give way more XP at level 30. On a double XP weekend event these will bag you a LOT of loot caches. ADVICE FOR WHEN YOU HIT LEVEL 30: hey welcome to the show! posted:The dark zone is not the best place to get loot. Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:As a fresh 30 you have a couple main priorities and things to keep in mind: OPEN WORLD BOSS FARMING Bullet King and all 14 of his boss friends now respawn in the open world every 4 hours All Open World Boss Locations (with timestamps): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhdtSv_JcBE  Roman fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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Oct 29, 2016 22:22
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hey welcome to the show! posted:This was a few pages back but I feel like I can give you an answer. Thanks. So it's actually viable and not just gimmicky, I wanted to make sure about that.
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Oct 29, 2016 22:42
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FYI I had wanted to make the thread title Caches Rule Everything Around Me but I thought the whole "game isn't a trash fire any more" message was more important
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Oct 29, 2016 22:47
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I've been thinking about the Division again and may redownload it on PC and buy the expansion pack.
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As I posted in the old thread without reading the last few posts, any pc goons want to do weekly hvts and incursions later?
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I said come in! posted:I've been thinking about the Division again and may redownload it on PC and buy the expansion pack. The base game + Underground is on sale today for $25 on Amazon and it's super tempting. Xbone is such a crapfest, performance wise. The game drops to like, below 20 FPS when I open the menu 
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Solid OP. Gets the right information in as little talk as possible. As a season pass holder, I'm really hoping there's more content coming than just the bi-weekly drops. It was advertised as having more than what we're getting, though what we're getting does technically fit the wording. Eh. Pedestrian Xing posted:As I posted in the old thread without reading the last few posts, any pc goons want to do weekly hvts and incursions later? 
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Oct 29, 2016 23:10
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Thanks for putting together a new thread - it's been good seeing PS4 goons chatting again and shooting mans. They've definitely brought a lot of fun back into it, am genuinely excited about the next DLC update now.
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I wanted to name it "Give Alex a taste of your Hungry Hog" but I guess this one is good too.
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Oct 29, 2016 23:34
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I work all weekend but I may jump on discord on Tuesday or Wednesday.
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I stopped playing this shortly after 1.0 because of other games and spergin' too hard on the betas. Never made it to 30, IIRC, but arse if I remember what level I actually got to. Is there any reason not to continue as I am or shall I recreate?
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can confirm, game is good as someone that got bored 3/4ths of the way to cap. Diablo 3 torment is the perfect description of the open world and loot rain.
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Ciaphas posted:I stopped playing this shortly after 1.0 because of other games and spergin' too hard on the betas. Never made it to 30, IIRC, but arse if I remember what level I actually got to. Is there any reason not to continue as I am or shall I recreate?
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Ciaphas posted:I stopped playing this shortly after 1.0 because of other games and spergin' too hard on the betas. Never made it to 30, IIRC, but arse if I remember what level I actually got to. Is there any reason not to continue as I am or shall I recreate? ZombyDog fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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ZombyDog posted:You can hit level 30 before finishing the story so if you aren't super interested in it you can plow through the remaining story missions and get all of the BoO upgrades and just do the endgame content. That being said it only takes a couple of days play through from start to finish anyhow. The other thing is you have 4 character slots, so you smash through what you need to do to get to the endgame content with your current character and start anew with another or you character slots.
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DaveKap posted:Is there actually any reason to have other characters if you're not the type of person to play classes? I assume otherwise the point is to have each slot be a specific build/class, yes?
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Cool, thanks, guess I'll give the game another look-see. After the terminally long download, anyway. Besides the loot thing, there been much QoL changes since 1.0? I always get my jollies from that sort of thing--not balance stuff, just little things to make the lame parts of the game less so. I've forgotten, is the game much to speak of with controller or shall I stick to KBM?
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Started a new character after six hours with one on m+kb (the glasses looked stupid). Tried a controller from the get go and gave up after five minutes. It's terrible, don't bother if your're on PC.
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Multiple characters can get extra season pass supply drops. I THINK stuff like the 4 hour reset for the open world bosses and HVTs is per character, not account. So if you want extra quick loot and birdcoins (Phoenix credits are shared between characters) you can hop on your alt and farm that stuff. (Correct me if I'm wrong please)
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Black Griffon posted:Tried a controller from the get go and gave up after five minutes. It's terrible, don't bother if your're on PC. I prefer to play most 3rd person games using a controller, while first person is almost always keyboard/mouse. There are reasons to go both ways, but I think I like playing Division on controller more. For one, the interface is designed for it. Not so much the layout, but the keystrokes for things, especially while going through my inventory, I just can't wrap my head around it. Easier with the controller mapping. Also, I got my Steam Controller working with the game, and while it's going to take some time to master, I think using the gyro to assist with aiming is going to be really effective.
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I came up with a build. Zombie 2 Alpha Bridge, 3 Nomad, 1 Holster (Steadfast talent), with Self-preserved and Predatory for weapons. - 100% faster health regeneration, 15% instant health on kill, health regeneration not limited to damaged to segment and health regeneration kicks in faster, with 3% of damage dealth as heal and 1.75% health per second on kill. Basically sit behind cover and start shooting, kill things when you can, hide and sit for a bit if you're taking damage.
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Revol posted:I prefer to play most 3rd person games using a controller, while first person is almost always keyboard/mouse. There are reasons to go both ways, but I think I like playing Division on controller more. For one, the interface is designed for it. Not so much the layout, but the keystrokes for things, especially while going through my inventory, I just can't wrap my head around it. Easier with the controller mapping. If I have any major shuffling around in the inventory, stash, rolling stats etc. I usually end up using the controller because it's just faster. Helpful inventory tip: When in the stash or browsing the vendors, hold down right trigger (or hold down T on PC) for a list of categories (Masks, Body Armor, etc.)
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I haven't really branched my skill choice out from sticky bomb/first aid. What else should I try? The numbers on turrets look really, really garbage.
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Locked out of my uPlay account because Google Authenticator is not working for me. You have to contact support to remove your authenticator but you have to be able to login... with your authenticator to be able to do that. :/ Basically locked out of my account with the Division on it.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I haven't really branched my skill choice out from sticky bomb/first aid. What else should I try? The numbers on turrets look really, really garbage. Get a 4 piece Firecrest, use flame turret, burn it all down.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I haven't really branched my skill choice out from sticky bomb/first aid. What else should I try? The numbers on turrets look really, really garbage. The shield is actually a decent option now, since the pistols have been generally buffed, threat generation redone, and the bugs fixed. Support station pairs really well in groups now, as the revive functions combined with better healing make it a good First Aid alternative. First Aid defibrilator mod got a significant cooldown reduction, so if you want to pick your buddies back up, it's a good one.
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Had fun running heroic Clear Sky with a goon squad today. It took a few wipes to get the strategy down but we did fine once we figured it out.
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If you want to sperg out, watch this https://youtu.be/DLcbO1MWcug
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I thought I read in the last thread that FALs and other burst-fire guns will proc Sentry in 1.4. Is this true or did I waste a bunch of cash rerolling stuff 
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Some goon said it was false last thread.
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Tagichatn posted:Some goon said it was false last thread. Sigh So why are burst-fire guns even in this stupid game then 
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Ciaphas posted:Cool, thanks, guess I'll give the game another look-see. After the terminally long download, anyway. I'm playing with a Wii U Pro controller on PC because I'm a degenerate  It's good.
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How does threat work exactly? Right now I've got a 46% reduced threat suppressor on my M60 as I want people to stand up and attack me so I can feed my skills delicious cooldowns on kills, is that how it works? Conversely a high threat gun means folks get in cover more often? Either way holy gently caress a meticulous and decisive M60 with a flame turret is some loving war crime poo poo and I love it Edit: Oh. Decisive only kicks in when skills are on cooldown. Which is kinda trumped by the Tech Support skill for turrets. poo poo. Beeb fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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If there is legitimately more loot and better content scaling now I might jump back in; this game was and still is really fun, even with all the old missions/dailies.
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Capn Beeb posted:How does threat work exactly? Right now I've got a 46% reduced threat suppressor on my M60 as I want people to stand up and attack me so I can feed my skills delicious cooldowns on kills, is that how it works? Conversely a high threat gun means folks get in cover more often? I believe the reworked threat to work like it does in MMO's i.e. aggro. If you have a suppressor than the enemies will pay less attention to you. If you have a muzzle break, then they will notice you more. Threat is more noticeable when you're in a group or the enemies are fighting each other. Maybe someone else can explain it more elegantly.
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Capn Beeb posted:How does threat work exactly? Right now I've got a 46% reduced threat suppressor on my M60 as I want people to stand up and attack me so I can feed my skills delicious cooldowns on kills, is that how it works? Conversely a high threat gun means folks get in cover more often? No, I believe you've got it wrong. The reduced/increased threat bonuses of the suppressors and vent brakes make enemies either more or less likely to focus their fire on you when you're in a group. When you're playing solo it has no effect. Some guns have inherently higher suppressing ability (ironically, LMGs tend to make enemies duck behind cover more often when their weapon bonus only works on enemies out of cover), but I'm pretty sure that this is not affected by suppressors. Having "increased threat" means your gun is louder therefore enemies notice it more easily and view you as a threat they need to kill first, similar to how we view heavies. This is anecdotal, of course, but when I fire an SMG with a suppressor and my teammates use LMGs I find that I get shot at less, and vice versa when I fire an LMG.
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Wamdoodle posted:I'm playing with a Wii U Pro controller on PC because I'm a degenerate I disbelieve.
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Shoren posted:No, I believe you've got it wrong. The reduced/increased threat bonuses of the suppressors and vent brakes make enemies either more or less likely to focus their fire on you when you're in a group. When you're playing solo it has no effect. Some guns have inherently higher suppressing ability (ironically, LMGs tend to make enemies duck behind cover more often when their weapon bonus only works on enemies out of cover), but I'm pretty sure that this is not affected by suppressors. Having "increased threat" means your gun is louder therefore enemies notice it more easily and view you as a threat they need to kill first, similar to how we view heavies. This is anecdotal, of course, but when I fire an SMG with a suppressor and my teammates use LMGs I find that I get shot at less, and vice versa when I fire an LMG. Well dang Also it seems that Determined is useless on a flame turret build, as kills only make it recharge once it's been destroyed. You can make it last longer with Tech Support, so there's no need to keep chucking them out that would benefit from a skill cooldown. Also neither LMGs or ARs can get Coolheaded so I just blew a shitload of money for nothing  Edit: Unless I got a nice SCAR-H variant with Coolheaded and just kinda build around that? The real fucker here is snipers and heavies smashing the turret as well as LMB jerkasses hacking the loving thing. It also seems the yellow Robust vest is kinda useless, the one that gives 10% more armor when in cover as you're often being flushed out of cover by grenades or heavies that just sprinted across the map to kick your turret to pieces and are now standing on top of you. Beeb fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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99% of rogues are still running group shotty (Xbox, Australia) I'm having a lot of fun using a flame turret to counter this, currently using 4PC Hunters Faith/2 Gold with pre-1.4 G36/MP7 (use a M44 for more Faith proc sometimes but it's not optimal when you're being rushed cqPVP). The G36 is a lot more stable for me now, can spam headish shots from 30-40m, drop turret, to keep them away. Usually solo but add group and that Faith proc really adds up when you're hitting shotties out of their range. e: never encountered the Hungry Hog, never even heard of it until this thread. I love LMG for LZ/UG. How to attain? zegs fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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