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Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

OwlFancier posted:

Act of Aggression is OK and was significantly improved by the big update they did that completely rejiggered how it worked.

I still miss the off map support from Act of War though, it was like playing CnC generals except you could call in airstrikes from Wargame Red Dragon. Absurdly lethal and super fun to use.

Yeah, come to think of it, was AoW the first game with an off-map airforce that was still controllable on the field rather than the designated airstrikes of C&C or COH? It's definitely become Eugen's calling card at least.

Anyway on the topic of mods and RTS, here is one for Yuri's Revenge that's also an anime visual novel??
https://www.moddb.com/mods/ts-another-world

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Uh, so they ported Tiberian Sun into RA2, and then coincidentally made it anime??

Orv
May 4, 2011
Nothing coincidental about it, TibSun has always been an anime.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Angry Diplomat posted:

Okay, to be honest, an alternate-modern-day Red Alert game in which one of the villainous factions is a Shadowrun-esque corporation run by a hubristic technocrat who's Definitely Not Elon Musk would absolutely be on brand, and sounds fun as hell to boot.

The unit tree practically designs itself. Incompetent mercenaries as basic infantry. Drones of various kinds, each more comically over-engineered than the last, most in roles that would be much better suited to humans. Bizarre weird-science tech upgrades. Semi-bulletproof luxury sedans with machine guns mounted on them. Your superweapon is to deorbit a satellite, causing it to fall on the enemy base for catastrophic damage, and then claim you did it on purpose. Your ultimate unit is a fully autonomous AI that you (read: your scientists) designed to run your factory, but which instead converted your factory into a mobile robotic death fortress and is now using it to kill all humans.

He keeps putting out press releases about his new baby, JRX-0.989, but near the end it's revealed it's actually a hacked-together mess of a giant robot with five ot six different attack types, his faction's endgame superunit.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Actually isn't techbro RTS literally just Supreme Commander? In that the only actual people on the field are you and your subcommanders and everything else is a robot.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

OwlFancier posted:

Actually isn't techbro RTS literally just Supreme Commander? In that the only actual people on the field are you and your subcommanders and everything else is a robot.

It's also pretty much the best RTS ever made by a wide, wide margin.

It's one of the few games where there's an actual tide of battle, where in the early-mid game factories churn out waves of low tier units to gain and contest map coverage, and you can see when one person is teching up because their opponent starts taking territory from them, and then loses it later when the higher tier units come online and start pushing the weaker units back. There's also a lot of gain to be had by salvaging wrecks, so just killing a bunch of enemy units can be an economic boon as well, and it means that winning a battle can be important just so that you can recycle the destroyed remains of the battle back into more units on your side.

Your commander starts off as a super powerful unit that can singlehandedly wipe out large amounts of enemies, but then late game becomes a liability as your commander is also your single point of failure - you lose if your commander dies. It means that the game can have some surprising upsets when one player snipes the other's commander, or one player overextends earlygame and gets their commander pushed back to base, which causes that player to cede map control and resources.

Experimentals are also absolutely fantastic, artillery that can fire across the map is amazing (and absurdly fragile + expensive), and the way game enders work, especially with the fact that a downed super unit is worth a ton of material if the enemy harvests it, makes the end game a lot of fun. Hell, there's one game ender that is literally just infinite resources. If you build it, your only constraint is how much capacity you have to build structures. Another is an experimental nuclear silo that builds extra powerful nuclear missiles staggeringly quickly. Then there's the gatling mobile artillery piece that fire shells at an obscene rate across most of the map, which is only rivaled by the static artillery piece with functionally infinite range that fires small nuclear shells.

None of them are cheap, and they exist mostly as a way to convert an economic edge into a military edge, or as a desperate last resort when the enemy is knocking down your gates because you've funneled everything into a weapon that can win the fight in a single shot.

Edit: To bring this back around to modding - there's a mod called Forged Alliance Forever where people continually balance the game and have made a number of changes aimed at making the game more interesting to play. One major change is that your first high tier factory is expensive, but subsequent high tier factories are cheaper, which means that players are incentivized to build more factories rather than one big factory surrounded by tons of engineering drones.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Forged Alliance Forever is arguably more than a mod, I believe it's the only way to play SupCom online these days. Might even be necessary to get it running on W10 for all I know.

Anyways, TA>SC

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Mordja posted:

Anyways, TA>SC

:hai:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I would really like a game that works basically like supcom but doesn't use a grid and is actually scaled like a real life RTS.

So the same map size, but you can spend your time building large networks of logistics and poo poo over massive chunks of land, with stuff like elevation and line of sight being really important.

I guess sort of like a cross between supcom and wargame.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


I like how the "game enders" aren't just I Win buttons either. They're massive forces to be reckoned with but they can be countered. That infinite resource building needs to be protected because if it's destroyed it goes critical in a massive explosion that can wipe out your base (and commander if he's nearby). That gatling artillery piece doesn't have infinite range, draws an insane amount of power when firing, and can be fooled with stealth, decoys, or at least delayed with a bunch of shields . Hell even the super nuke can be shot down with multiple anti-ICBM missiles.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Supreme Commander is also anything but techbro, there's lots of women and people of color in its single player campaign, many of them in positions of power (in fact, one of the people yelling orders at you in all three campaigns is a woman), and the expansion was supposed to have a straight up gay couple among the supporting cast before they were forced to axe about three quarters of the planned expansion campaign content.

Ashsaber
Oct 24, 2010

Deploying Swordbreakers!
College Slice

Mordja posted:

Act of War was fun, I especially liked the Consortium's gimmick of going from middle eastern terrorists with RPGs and technicals to full on Cobra when you tech up and reveal your cloaking railgun tanks and high-tech Russian aircraft. I'm one of the few people who didn't hate AoA either.

I think about that game sometimes too, mostly about how the American Army has the best of everything in a setting with wacky poo poo. Like, the one faction has said MGS optical camo railgun tank drones, and the other has exosuits the size of a car that can cross the battlefield in seconds armed with a chaingun and missile launcher, who heal from anywhere on the map with microwaves powering like nanotech, and the single most powerful unit on the field is... an Abrams tank.

I mean, its a game who's story says that a war for oil in the middle east is totally a good thing, but still, there is a point where cheerleading gets into parody territory.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Orv posted:

And they haven't made a good one since Alpha Protocol.

I will fight you.

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100
"I speak Japanese only."



https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/45324

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Ashsaber posted:

I think about that game sometimes too, mostly about how the American Army has the best of everything in a setting with wacky poo poo. Like, the one faction has said MGS optical camo railgun tank drones, and the other has exosuits the size of a car that can cross the battlefield in seconds armed with a chaingun and missile launcher, who heal from anywhere on the map with microwaves powering like nanotech, and the single most powerful unit on the field is... an Abrams tank.

I mean, its a game who's story says that a war for oil in the middle east is totally a good thing, but still, there is a point where cheerleading gets into parody territory.

Most powerful frontline combat unit, yes, but one of the nice things about that game is that there's a lot of it that doesn't come down to raw stats. The railgun tanks can beat abrams really well if you take advantage of the stealth and higher initial impact of their weapons.

The US is more of the big dumb fighty man faction, but the consortium definitely has its perks in the specialist unit department. TFT is... well I don't enormously like them to be honest but it might just be because I preferred the US/Consortium. Their AM snipers are cool though.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Skwirl posted:

I will fight you.

OR BEFORE.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Oh my god those arms. And this is an image they used to advertise the mod? I can’t imagine what the rest of the art looks like.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Orv posted:

And they haven't made a good one since Alpha Protocol.

Fallout New Vegas was good?

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

RatHat posted:

Oh my god those arms. And this is an image they used to advertise the mod? I can’t imagine what the rest of the art looks like.

Does ModDB have any Code Geass mohey there's the abandoned Half-Life mod themed after an anime show I was expecting except it was for HL1.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

They have an identical screenshot without the program name black out, it looks like a Russian language email program or something?

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
Now if only they could mod the show they used for their wallpaper to have a decent loving ending.

E: v: I meant Merlin, but that works too.

Preechr fucked around with this message at 07:21 on May 28, 2020

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Code Grass was a show that carried itself via how many ways it could top it's increasingly insane plot, and they ran out of ideas by the end. The second season then absolutely shat the bed when they had to do a semi-hard reset to account for the new timeslot the show aired in, and it doubled down on the stupid. It's entertaining as hell but incredibly dumb by the end (though some of the mind control plans in the first season were clever).

I haven't seen the new stuff they made, but I like the idea of someone trying to fix a dumb show by making a half life mod. Thats hilarious and I'd accept it as a logical progression from suicide to save the world.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Lord Lambeth posted:

Fallout New Vegas was good?

:colbert:

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Return of the Dragonporn

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


OwlFancier posted:

Most powerful frontline combat unit, yes, but one of the nice things about that game is that there's a lot of it that doesn't come down to raw stats. The railgun tanks can beat abrams really well if you take advantage of the stealth and higher initial impact of their weapons.

The US is more of the big dumb fighty man faction, but the consortium definitely has its perks in the specialist unit department. TFT is... well I don't enormously like them to be honest but it might just be because I preferred the US/Consortium. Their AM snipers are cool though.

They had the buggy too, "this is a buggy" :downs:

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

silentsnack posted:

If that's what it means the symbolism is somewhat misleading since taken in isolation "[number signifying adulthood] forbidden" would mean exactly the opposite.

This is a while back but I desperately want to hear you opinion on how you think traffic signs work

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

goblin week posted:

This is a while back but I desperately want to hear you opinion on how you think traffic signs work

I think traffic signs are not really subject to much interpretation or ambiguity arising from multiple contradictory readings, due to the fact the ideas/meanings they represent are codified by laws/regulations which the viewer is already supposed to know regardless of context (assuming that country/etc requires driving certification to include knowledge of traffic laws and ability to read standardized signs) so the sign simply needs to reference an established idea within a relatively small set of things-you-shouldn't-do-with-a-ton-of-steel-here-and-now.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

goblin week posted:

This is a while back but I desperately want to hear you opinion on how you think traffic signs work

I ain't them, but red circle with a slash usually means "don't do or be this thing." Like a sign with a truck in a red circle and slash means no truck traffic in an area.

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




obviously it means that 17 and under is okay and 19 and over is okay but 18 is not okay

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009
Honestly I'd just assume it means no horny on main street.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009


:yikes:

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
"Adult themed" is surprisingly euphemistic coming from Loverslab. It's like finding out that someone who's into hardcore BDSM calls sex "making whoopie".

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Or that comedy forums have a filter involving gentle caresses!

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.
I'd like to think the Slabbers like to think that they're not pretty much insane sexual deviants, and it's normal "adult" stuff they're doing.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Well, that's pretty obvious, I think. Echo chambers tend to do that. When everyone you know behaves like you do, obviously it means you're a sane and normal person.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Cardiovorax posted:

Well, that's pretty obvious, I think. Echo chambers tend to do that. When everyone you know behaves like you do, obviously it means you're a sane and normal person.

I stumbled upon a forum earlier this week while trying to figure out a glitch I was having in an old Fallout New Vegas mod and what I came upon was a discussion that was basically an unironic version of this comic:



But replace "kill the jews" with "make 'jokes' about child porn."

You might be surprised to learn that the character cast on the left was actually the Nexus :nexus:

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

marshmallow creep posted:

You might be surprised to learn that the character cast on the left was actually the Nexus :nexus:
Not as much as you'd think. You see it every so often, but unsurprisingly, it tends to get the people who call Child Prostitution Mod v2.0 creepy banned quickly. Creeplords and chuds tend to be more prone to buying the subscription plan of a modding website, I guess.

Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 2, 2020

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Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


marshmallow creep posted:

I stumbled upon a forum earlier this week while trying to figure out a glitch I was having in an old Fallout New Vegas mod and what I came upon was a discussion that was basically an unironic version of this comic:



But replace "kill the jews" with "make 'jokes' about child porn."

You might be surprised to learn that the character cast on the left was actually the Nexus :nexus:

Reminds me of the people quoting Voltaire back when a coalition of not-pedophiles was trying to get reddit to admit that r/jailbait was child porn

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