negromancer posted:

Not even close to a violation.

Shonda Rhimes has a good book, pretty much anything by bell hooks, and there were tons of suggestions in the last thread.


Morgan Freeman fell off my personal cool list when he went on that "racism doesn't exist" rant.

When I think cool black people, I think Billy Dee Williams, personally.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

I think that for a lot of minorities, they hear and know that if you do not address systemic racism first or as a major part, that anything you do to improve "economic equality" automatically helps white people more than it helps them. This is, of course, a larger debate of intersectionality, but I think it's an important thing to remember.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I think Binow is right, but there's also nothing wrong with each of us focusing our activism on our strong suits. The important thing for people more focused on economic equality is to avoid telling minorities to "wait your turn" or to assure them that money will magically make all the racism go away. You can also help maintain visibility of minority-specific economic issues simply by bringing them up, to keep discussions from drifting off to focus only on the poor white coal miner or the anxious white middle class. Any numbers we use to talk about economic inequality are worse when you remember to look at minorities too. White women make 70 cents on the dollar compared to white men, but for black women it's 64 and for latina women it's an appalling 54. Black middle-class household net worth is lower than working class white households. Unemployment rates for black and latino men dwarf white male unemployment rates, which are already pretty drat bad. I think that's the key. When you've got an ally talking about poverty, and you can see they're only thinking about white poverty, agree with them that it's bad and then talk about how it's actually even worse than that when we think about all the other people in this country.

If you do in-person activism, which I hope you do, use inclusive practices like amplification to help POCs have a seat at the table. You're on the right track. It's not like we don't want economic equality. Keep working on what you're best at and we will too and let's just remember to team up when we can.

Tesseraction posted:

xthetenth posted:

You're reminding me of me in the middle of my breakdown. Worry about you. You've got a lot of time to pay things off but if and only if you're wallowing in it you are actually justified. Get therapy and or meds so you can be helpful. Hell, my life's a shitshow and I don't get to do more than slacktivism a lot of the time, but I'm no good to anyone having another freak out and at least I can try and advocate people to be a bit less poo poo. And hell I guess I create some value at my day job, but that's mostly maintenance for me and maybe some other incidental good comes of it.

If you want someone to try and talk you through things feel free to message me or something.

Push El Burrito posted:

Looking out for number one is the first step to becoming a shithead libertarian I don't recommend it.

there wolf posted:

I don't get what the emotional stuff is about so just gonna bypass it.

The problem with a certain kind of leftist is that they think class war supersedes all other forms of inequality, when in reality it encompasses them. Meaningful advancement on racial inequality cannot help but address income inequality since that's a key component of systemic racism. Meaningful advancement on workers rights cannot help but address sexual harassment since that's a key component of systemic sexism. And so on and so on.

remusclaw posted:

Something I was watching about Cuba a while back made it very clear that socialism was supposed to make everyone equal, at least according to the people in charge. What happened instead is darker skinned Cubans are targeted by police at higher rates than the rest of society and are subject to pretty much the same issues they are in capitalist societies when compared to their lighter skinned fellows, who all in all seem to get a pretty fair deal for as far as that goes in Cuba.

remusclaw posted:

All that aside, the key point to get is that socialism doesn't fix racial inequality.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I like Perez a lot and I'm glad he'll be working with Ellison, who is also great .

remusclaw posted:

I want the Democrats to win. The lefter the better, but I will vote Dem until such time as there is an electable better option. I know enough people for whom it matters a great deal and I know of far more.

Pastrymancy posted:

I hope Perez sticks to his commitments to having the Dems defend voting rights because the DOJ isn't doing poo poo against voter ID laws anymore.