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| Magnus +2 or More |
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11 | 32.35% |
| Magnus +1 |
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8 | 23.53% |
| Magnus in Tie-breaks |
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4 | 11.76% |
| Karjakin in Tie-breaks |
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0 | 0% |
| Karjakin +1 |
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1 | 2.94% |
| Nuclear War |
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10 | 29.41% |
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King Pawn posted:Just tuned in, can someone explain Re2 -> Re1? I missed the coverage, and it's befuddling me. Did provoking b6 achieve something? Magnus wants to preserve his bishop pair, presumably. Black's threatening Ba6.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:54
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Hand Knit posted:Magnus wants to preserve his bishop pair, presumably. Black's threatening Ba6. Sure, I get that. I meant why not just play Re1 immediately on move 10? Superficially it looks like he lost a tempo for very little.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:00
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King Pawn posted:Sure, I get that. I meant why not just play Re1 immediately on move 10? Superficially it looks like he lost a tempo for very little. My guess? If black doesn't play b6, white gets a head start on doubling rooks. If black does, then white has engineered a pawn commitment from black in a position where black has zero pawns committed. e: and if you look at how the position has turned out, white has a bishop on f4 that is nominally looking at the weak pawn on c7. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Nov 14, 2016 21:04
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Unless there's a tactical refutation, 17.g3 looks like a very good move.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:10
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yeah, and g5 is a bit curious. Makes Kings side structure weird. but I'm no pro so we'll see what happens
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Nov 14, 2016 21:26
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straight up brolic posted:yeah, and g5 is a bit curious. Makes Kings side structure weird. but I'm no pro so we'll see what happens The fewer pieces on the board — especially if the queen is off — the more you can slide away from "king safety" and towards "controlling space." Bonus for Karjakin in that he got to trade Carlsen's good bishop for Karjakin's bad knight. A lot of this game so far is about each player trying to get the other to commit to something, whatever that something may be.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:33
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straight up brolic posted:yeah, and g5 is a bit curious. Makes Kings side structure weird. but I'm no pro so we'll see what happens It does weaken the kingside, but it forces the bishop either into a less active position, allowing black's bishop to move away from e7, or trade off, also allowing black to make his pieces a bit more active. I guess Karjakin felt it was a good tradeoff.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:34
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I quite liked the first two games and defended them against those saying they were boring, but this seems to be petering out very rapidly. Berlin 
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Nov 14, 2016 21:41
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Karjakin still thinking, and it's at the point where he's got 25 minutes for 15 moves. Things may get tight.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:34
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Karjakin is prob not going to be able to solve this with the time pressure. That knight is perfect.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:47
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c5 looks like a blunder.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:05
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I was thinking ...Ba3 and then ...Bc1 to pressure the knight.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:08
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Aggro posted:I was thinking ...Ba3 and then ...Bc1 to pressure the knight. I think you might run in to Rg5 there. The line that Peter is showing here is very interesting. Basically Magnus stealing a tempo to get the rook from g1 to g2.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:11
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King Pawn posted:I quite liked the first two games and defended them against those saying they were boring, but this seems to be petering out very rapidly. Berlin haha check out this idiot. You'd think I'd have learned by now that Magnus is good at making things happen in quiet-looking positions.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:13
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pawn is pawn
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Nov 14, 2016 23:16
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King Pawn posted:haha check out this idiot. This is only exciting to see Magnus hunt down a wounded gazelle after 31...c5. This should have been a draw.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:28
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AnacondaHL posted:This is only exciting to see Magnus hunt down a wounded gazelle after 31...c5. This should have been a draw. Chess is a draw. Magnus' style is to pursue positions where he can play freely, yet his opponent needs to make committal decisions. And it's hard to make committal decisions without screwing up at least once.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:38
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The people's world champion Vishy wins the Champions Showdown.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:57
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All of these Trump fans in the Chess24 chat makes no sense
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Nov 15, 2016 00:25
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straight up brolic posted:All of these Trump fans in the Chess24 chat makes no sense Conventionally white/male space, obsessed with winning and other displays of strength, prone to conspiratorial thinking. Talking politics with most chess players is horrifying — Fischer is a prototype. e: Like you get jock alpha male bullshit combined with nerd resentment/insecurity. It's awful.
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Nov 15, 2016 00:28
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I have an interest in computer chess and that community is appalling. I expected a bunch of mild-mannered nerds, turns out it's mostly a hive of hyper-opinionated dullards spouting nonsense, full-blown conspiracy theorists, stormfront rejects and the legitimately mentally ill. There are a few good eggs in the mix, but overall it's easily the most unpleasant group of people I associate with. If only the subject itself wasn't so fascinating.. Also, the level of partisanship is incredible. People declare themselves a "Stockfish fan" or a "Houdini fan" or whatever and if you put one of each in a locked room I get the impression they'd be clawing each other's eyes out. King Pawn fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 00:46
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Well I'll eat my words. Even if this does turn into a draw, it's been loving awesome.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:04
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Karjakin is about to have a schizophrenic break by the end of this tournament if magnus keeps making this dude passively defend like this
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Nov 15, 2016 02:21
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and there it is. that's a massive blunder. he could still possibly recover but it's going to be tough
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Nov 15, 2016 02:26
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That game was crazy. Could be a blow to Carlsen psychologically, I'm sure he knows he missed a huge chance.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:46
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King Pawn posted:That game was crazy. Could be a blow to Carlsen psychologically, I'm sure he knows he missed a huge chance. He just said on Norwegian tv that he didn't see a big chance to win.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:48
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wait did it draw? I had to eat dinner
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Nov 15, 2016 02:51
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how the gently caress did karjakin get out of that
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Nov 15, 2016 02:52
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TheRat posted:He just said on Norwegian tv that he didn't see a big chance to win. Everything I say in here gets contradicted immediately  It's me, I'm the hyper-opinionated dullard spouting nonsense.
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Nov 15, 2016 02:52
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straight up brolic posted:how the gently caress did karjakin get out of that I'm not sure what "that" in this context is. If you mean his initial mistake, by lots of very precise play. If you mean something else, I suspect whatever he did was deliberate.
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Nov 15, 2016 03:14
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I really enjoyed that endgame - I thought Carlsen would just grind out a win but nope.
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Nov 15, 2016 03:38
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Game 4 is underway; I'm no expert on the Ruy, but so far it looks to me like a fairly standard one.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:36
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Norwegian TV are being very critical of the Russian team for not coming up with openings that don't play into Magnus' strengths. I don't know what I'm talking about, so 'presented without comment' I suppose.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:43
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TheRat posted:Norwegian TV are being very critical of the Russian team for not coming up with openings that don't play into Magnus' strengths. I don't know what I'm talking about, so 'presented without comment' I suppose. The 2013 and 2014 WCCs showcased just how strong Carlsen is at Ruy Lopez openings, particularly the Berlin defense. I'm p sure that's basically all it means (and also pray that fewer games this year are Ruy Lopez because zzzzz)
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Nov 15, 2016 20:53
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This is one of those games where I can understand that black is okay right now, but in practice I would get snowed so hard.
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Nov 15, 2016 21:02
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Norwegian TV are saying Karjakin's Bxh6 was a big mistake
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Nov 15, 2016 21:29
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TheRat posted:Norwegian TV are saying Karjakin's Bxh6 was a big mistake Hrm, most engines were reportedly giving equal (and even) results for that move along with the other candidate moves, it's just that this is a bit more sharp.
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Nov 15, 2016 21:36
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TheRat posted:Norwegian TV are saying Karjakin's Bxh6 was a big mistake Big mistake as in he's worse now, or big mistake as in it just pisses away his attack?
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Nov 15, 2016 21:37
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Hand Knit posted:Big mistake as in he's worse now, or big mistake as in it just pisses away his attack? As in he's worse now.
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TheRat posted:As in he's worse now. What reasons did they give for this? Does black have that much play up the middle?
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