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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Previous thread - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3796264

After the wasteland that was the UFC in October 2016, November saved us. It was a good month for the sport, with action both in-cage and out.

Last month, Fight Night: Lineker vs. Dodson set a high water mark for missing weight, with three fighters missing weight and being fined. This trend would continue through November, with two fighters at Fight Night 98: TUF Latin America 3 Finale: dos Anjos vs. Ferguson missing weight. With another fighter being pulled for a possible USADA violation and being replaced at the last minute, this card saw three catchweight fights. In the maine event, Tony Ferguson got the decision against former lightweight champion Rafael dos Anjos in a good fun fight. dos Anjos' star continues to fall after losing the lightweight title in under a round in July 2016, but Tony Ferguson's is rising, with this win putting him on a 9-fight streak.

The next event was the historic first ever UFC show in New York, UFC 205 on the 12th of November. This event was promising to make up for the disappointment that was UFC 200, and it delivered in spades. The action started at the weigh-ins, with Thiago Alves weighing in for his lightweight (155 lbs) fight at 162.6 lbs. According to the New York State Athletic Commission rules, if his opponent was more than 7 pounds lighter than him, the fight would be off. As Jim Miller had not yet weighed in, he was invited to start re-hydrating and miss weight as well to ensure the fight went on, while also picking up 20% of his opponent's purse. Kelvin Gastelum was slated to fight Donald Cerrone at welterweight, with Cerrone flying in around 20 friends and family to see him fight. Cerrone weighed in early, but Gastelum was no where to be seen. He missed the official weigh-in period and annouced via twitter that he would not be able to make weight and that he couldn't fight. In a brief interview, Dana White said that Gastelum had missed weight by up to ten pounds and that "he was never fighting at welterweight in the UFC again".

The action inside the octagon did not disappoint. In the FightPass Prelims, Jim Miller got the job done against Alves by decision and Liz Carmouche took a close victory against Katlyn Chookagian. Opening up the Fox Sport card, Vicente Luque, having taken the fight on sixteen days' notice, only needed one minute and nineteen seconds to flatten Belal Muhammad with a blistering left hook. It was a right hook from Tim "Barbarian" Boetsch that sent Rafael Natal crashing down in their middleweight bout next, again in under a round. The third fight featured the heavy-handed Michael Johnson taking on Khabib Nurmagomedov (which I just spelt from memory and I think I got it right) who is a wrestler on another level compared to just about everyone in the world. Johnson was troubling Nurmagomedov on the feet but once the Russian was able to get the fight to the ground it was literally one-way, with Johnson absorbing incredible ground and pound punishment. In the third, Nurmagomedov became frustrated about not being able to put Johnson away with strikes and switched up to a kimura, getting the tap within seconds. In the preliminary main event, Frankie "The Answer" Edgar took a solid decision against Jeremy Stephens in another fun fight from the featherweights.

The main card started with Raquel Pennington boxing up former women's bantamweight champion Miesha Tate for three rounds and for Miesha to announce her retirement in the octagon shortly after the fight. Chris Weidman took on Yoel Romero next, in a really solid back and forth fight that was even going in to the third round. Twenty seconds into the third, Weidmen shot low from a long way out and Romero cracked him open with a brutal flying knee, with blood instantly gushing out of the open wound on Wiedman's head. Romero then goose-stepped around the outside of the octagon and called out Micheal Bisping, who was in the stalls on analysis. That fight seems like it will be made soon. The women's strawweight belt was on the line next, with Joanna Jędrzejczyk defending against Karolina Kowalkiewicz. JJ took the decision, dropping only a single round to the challenger, whose fighting style consists of "being JJ only about 90% as good in every way". More then enough to get her a title shot, not enough to get the job done. Tyron Woodley vs. Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson next in the absolute fight of the night. Back and forward action for five rounds with near-submissions, precision karate strikes and commission confusion saw Woodley retaining on a majority draw. This will be a fight we see again.

The main event featured Conor McGregor taking on Eddie Alvarez for the lightweight title, with COnor vying to be the first person in UFC history to hold the gold in two divisions at once, and saw the Irishman pick apart the champion Eddie Alvarez in a little over a round and a half. With all of the talk and hype surrounding this match-up it was almost a letdown in how clinical the disassembly of Alvarez was. McGregor took the first round as an easy 10-8, knocking down Alvarez three times and never looking troubled. In the second round, McGregor took to hiding his hands behind his back in what might have been a taunt or just some sparring habits from an old injury, but it didn't matter. With a beautiful 4-punch combination, he floored the champion, and at 3:00 of the second round Big John McCarthy stepped in to stop the fight.

Three more events rounded out a really fun month in UFC. Fight Night: Mousasi vs. Hall 2 from Belfast on the 19th of the month saw Gegard Mousasi control the entire fight against Uriah Hall, stopping his opponent in just under a round. Everyone's favourite horny Japanese man Teruto Ishihara took on Artem Lobov and somehow managed to lose to one of the most hittable men in the UFC. Fight Night: Bader vs. Nogueira 2 took place on the 19th as well on the other side of the planet in São Paulo, with Ryan Bader punching up the increasingly sad looking "Little Nog" in three rounds, getting the TKO stoppage. The final event of the month was again a long way from the UFC's home, with Fight Night: Whittaker vs. Brunson taking place on the 26th from Melbourne, Australia. Between the FightPass and Fox Sports prelims and the first fight of the main card there were eight decisions in a row. The highlight was Cool Judo Dad Dan Kelly grinding out a decision against (and bleeding all over) Chris Camozzi. The main card started with some really lovely officiating, with Danielle Taylor poking Seo Hee Ham in the eye several times in their women's strawweight fight with zero repercussions. Tyson Pedro (Fighting style: Beautiful) made his UFC debut by choking out Khalil Rountree in under a round. The main event saw Australia's own Robert Whittaker knock Derek Brunson out in a fun fight. Whittaker is now the 7th ranked UFC middleweight, which should be concerning to him, because every fighter above him in that division is a loving killing machine also Michael Bisping is there.

The month of November was capped off in its final hours by the announcement of the Mixed Martial Artists Athletes Association. This is a unionassociation of fighters formed with some big names from the UFC and also Bjorn Rebney, former Bellator Chairman and CEO. Fighters attaching their name to this organisation at the moment include George St. Pierre, Cain Velasquez, TJ Dillashaw, Donald Cerrone and Tim Kennedy, who is graciously taking time out of his very busy Hitler-hunting schedule to assist with this. Initial analysis indicates that by forming an association instead of a union, they are knee-capping themselves to start with (well, maybe not Cain, you need kneecaps to be kneecapped) and may in fact be opening themselves up for anti-trust lawsuits to be brought against them by the UFC. Also of note is that all of the fighters attached to it are represented by a large PR company that is in direct opposition to the UFC's new owners, WME-IMG. This is going to be a big story, but probably for all the reasons that the names involved don't want it to be.

Further outside the ring news saw Jon "Boner Pills" Jones found guilty of taking an unidentified dick pill that some guy he had just met gave him from the glovebox of his car that had all sorts of drugs in it that are banned even though they weren't found in his system and it definitely wasn't post-cycle therapy for steroids, no sir. Jones received a suspension of 12 months and will be eligible to fight again in ealy July 2017, by which time he will have almost certainly crashed his cocaine into a stripper while taking cars and sleeping with boozepraised Jesus and been a good christian boy the entire time.


On to the champions.


Heavyweight Champion Stipe Miocic (16-2). Knocked out Fabricio Verdum in front of 45,000 of Verdum’s fellow Brazilians in May 2016. Defended his title against Alistair Overeem at UFC 203 in September in his home town of Cleveland with another decisive first round KO of the big Dutchman. No further challenger announced, but with a fight between former champions Cain Velasquez and Fabricio Werdum slated for December 30th at UFC 207, it's likely that his next opponent will be one of them, Cain's knees notwithstanding.


Light Heavyweight Champion Daniel “DC” Cormier (18-1). Beat Anthony “Rumble” Johnson in May 2015 via RNC, and ground out a decision against Alexander Gustaffson in October 2015. Was slated to defend against Rumble at UFC 206 in Toronto on the 10th of December, however the American Kickboxing Academy Strength and Conditioning Program put paid to that, with DC announcing he had torn the adductor tendon in his groin.


Middleweight Champion Michael “The Count” Bisping (30-7). Knocked out Luke Rockhold in less than a round at the start of June 2016, on ten days’ notice. Defended his title against Dan Henderson in October, and current talk is a fight against Yoel "Soldier of God" "No For Gay Jesus" Romero.


Welterweight Champion Tyron “The Chosen One” Woodley (16-3-1). Won the title at UFC 201 in July by knocking out Robbie Lawler in under a round. Defended against Stephen "Wonderboy" Thomson at UFC 205, in New York in November in an excellent fight that went to a majority draw. A rematch could definitely be on the cards.


Lightweight Champion Conor McGregor (21-3). Easily beat Eddie Alvarez at UFC 205 in November, becoming the first ever UFC fighter to hold the belts in two divisions at the same time. Several fights are being talked up for Conor at the moment, including Nate Diaz for the LW belt, Khabib Nurmagomedov for the LW belt and even Tyron Woodley for the WW belt. Conor has also talked about taking some time off. The featherweight title was either stripped from Conor, or he relinquished it, following the injury to Daniel Cormier leaving UFC 206 without a title fight for the main event.


Featherweight Champion Jose Aldo (26-2). Took a decision against Frankie Edgar at UFC 200 in early July 2016. With the injury to Daniel Cormier leaving UFC 206 without a title match in the main event, several things happened. First, Conor's featherweight title was vacated - it is currently unknown whether or not he relinquished it or it was stripped from him. Then, Aldo was promoted to champion at featherweight, which in turn allowed for the fight between Max Holloway and Tony Pettis to be for the interim Featherweight title. The winner of this will then assumedly fight Aldo to unify the belts at a later date. Then again this is the UFC so who the gently caress knows what will actually happen.


Bantamweight Champion Dominick "The Dominator" Cruz (22-1). Took a close decision against TJ Dillashaw in January 2016, and defended his title comfortably against Urijah Faber in June 2016. Defending against the undefeated Cody "No Love" Garbrandt at UFC 207.


Flyweight Champion Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson (24-2-1). Won the title in the final of the Flyweight Tournament in September 2012. Has defended it 8 times in a row and is looking to make his 9th defense against the winner of the current season of TUF this month.


Women's Bantamweight Champion Amanda “Lioness” Nunes (13-4). Punched and choked her way to victory in the main event of UFC 200 against Miesha Tate. Will defend against a returning Ronda Rousey at UFC 207 this month.


Women's Strawweight Champion Joanna Jędrzejczyk (13-0). Beat the hell out of Cláudia Gadelha the night before UFC 200 to a solid decision victory. Defended against her countrywoman Karolina Kowalkiewicz at UFC 205 in New York in November.

Upcoming Events
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UFC Fight Night 102: Lewis vs. Abdurakhimov December 9th
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http://www.f4wonline.com/

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Other:
Sherdog Fight Finder
Unified rules of MMA
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MMA IRC chat room at #mma on SynIRC.net
Welcome to MMA, here's the history of the sport
Comparison of MMA betting lines
Understanding Sports Betting
USADA/UFC Drug Testing statistics


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UFC Fight Pass Playlists and Collections
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Memento fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 1, 2016

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Also if someone makes a separate thread to talk about the MMAAA thing (probably not needed) then they should use this tag:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Julio Cruz posted:

OP has done a NYSAC and got Woodley-Wonderboy down as a majority decision not a majority draw.

Thanks, there's always one or two mistakes.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Sure but he barely ever actually made weight back when he was fighting at welter and middle, right? At least Conor was actually making the cut as opposed to doing things like coming in at 197 for a 185 fight.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Marching Powder posted:

I also like how Jose is currently zero fights removed from the best win of his career.

I personally though the first Edgar fight was the better fight, but you're right about the better win.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Marching Powder posted:

But hell if Tyson grew up so can Jon Jones.

Tyson hit rock bottom so hard he penetrated all the way through the other side of the planet. Does Jones have a manager who is in a position to steal all of his money? Because as long as he's rich, Jones will never learn or be accountable.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Work Friend Keven posted:

This is real I read an article about it. You can do this. It's not "dick surgery" obviously.

There are actually two ways you can guarantee the gender of your child - sperm sorting for insemination, and IVF with genetic testing of the embryos. Neither of them involve having your junk tinkered with.

So Jon Jones doesn't know poo poo from poo poo as usual. We should honestly stop talking about him in the UFC thread because he's never fighting in the UFC again.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Just got finished watching the fights from last night. Method Man and Meth Man were robbed of the FotN bonus, and what the gently caress was up with that fence stoppage? That's an NC every day of the week, right?

Good card with a few fucky decisions going on.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

TheRationalRedditor posted:

not as weird as those garbage judge scores, though. 30-26, lol

Yeah there's no loving way Cejudo lost all three. I had it 28-28 in the end and that would not only have been the right decision, it sets up the rematch as a 5-round main event of a fight night down the road. I can't be alone in wanting to see them go five.

Memento fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Dec 5, 2016

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

I.N.R.I posted:

Im on maynards side

Is that the side of getting kicked in the head 27 times in 15 minutes and doing nothing about it?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
New Embedded is up. Excellent thumbnail choice there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOO6OK0tO6c

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Conor's going to be in Game of Thrones

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
lol

quote:

According to a source at Watchers on the Wall, McGregor will be a crew member on Euron Greyjoy’s ship, the Silence.

The reason why it is called the Silence is because Euron cuts the tongues out of everyone who crews the ship — meaning the Notorious one won’t say a word

"He can't actually act so make sure we just get his face on the TV without letting him open his mouth"

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

exploded mummy posted:

isn't the current plan to put him in a character that can't talk

Memento posted:

"He can't actually act so make sure we just get his face on the TV without letting him open his mouth"

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Jim Ross can't work even close to a full schedule, he's pretty old and the more he works the worse his Bell's palsy gets.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Detroit_Dogg posted:

Ariel Helwani

When Dana White said "I've been trying to get him for years" I guess he wasn't talking about signing him...

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Mickey Gall is on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani, and has just challenged Sage to make their match hair vs. hair.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Holly Holm, Germaine de Randamie to feature first female UFC featherweight title

Well there you go.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Rousey loses to Nunes, w125 starts, Rowdy vs Joanna Violence for the belt. I would very much like to see that.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I think that's a real possibility, but if they start a woman's Flyweight division and offer her a chance to be a two-division champ (especially if Holm loses this coming fight and she could be the first woman to do it) her ego could get her back in camp.

Who the gently caress knows though, but I bet it would sell some loving ppv buys.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

LobsterMobster posted:

Could have put this in the Best/Worst of the year thread, but nobody goes there

My choices for Best KOs of 2K16, ya filthy animals

https://streamable.com/w9h1

Which one was the one where the guy faked a glove touch and then threw a strike and then he ended up getting his soul removed from his body later in the round? Either that or Choi/Tavares for me.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Rubellavator posted:

I don't think I've heard anything from Brock or about Brock since he got caught, I don't even remember them trying the ol' tainted supplement bullshit. It's hard to imagine him fighting again.

Things Brock gives a poo poo about :

1. Money


























2. His family


If they back up a dumptruck with enough money in it, he'll be back. Whether the new owners see him as moving the needle enough is another thing, but the chance to make several million dollars for 6-odd weeks work is exactly the sort of thing that will get him off the tractor.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
My wife is watching UFC Tonight, and said to me "This guy's got the biggest head I've ever seen, can you tell me who that is?". Without looking over I said "Kenny Florian". Even Kenny agrees with me.

https://twitter.com/kennyflorian/status/281206242108653568

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Triticum Guzzler posted:

please show her tito ortiz and report back on her rankings

"This man isn't well

I don't think he's well

...is he alive?

Kenny Florian has a freakishly large head, but this man clearly has a problem

I really want to know if he's currently alive, or if the top of his skull has popped off from the pressure

I can't stop staring

Everything about that head is a loving freakshow. Even his eyebrows are weird.

Wear a hat, good god"



For reference, this is the picture I showed her.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

1st AD posted:

Jon Lovitz vs. Andy Dick

Joe Rogan vs. Andy Dick, preferably in an alley somewhere.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
I assume Dana never negotiates with Mark in front of any bay-view windows.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

tumor looking batty posted:

Sorta related but I hope the UFC starts moving away from the ppv model sooner rather than later.

So you hope they decide they don't like money?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

looooooooooooooooooooooooool

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
None of her complaining matters ever again and instead of having a division stocked for her, she gets nothing.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

big money big clit posted:

If you don't want to see the meltdown from Cyborg when the UFC opens a 145 weight class that she can't compete in then you're thinking about things all wrong.

This guy gets it.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
The football comparison is one that always makes me laugh. Four billion buys you the UFC, but I'm not sure it buys you a single NFL team.

Maybe the Browns.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Ray Elbe is gonna break his dick again with the insane g forces generated by trying to spin this one

lol what

This sport just keeps giving and giving.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Looks like he was pretty bad at mixed marital arts as well.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/812147410193489921https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/812147880928677888

aka_leg_day.gif

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Trast posted:

How long before Cyborg fans say this was a faked test to keep Cyborg away from Ronda? How long until Cyborg says it herself? :v:

Hours to a few days for the first one, days to a few weeks for the second.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Le Saboteur posted:

The Monster sized Welterweight Nate Diaz will never be booked in a fight again. Too big. Not fair! http://www.thescore.com/mma/news/1191104-white-it-s-just-not-right-to-book-mcgregor-vs-diaz-3

Man, poor Rory MacDonald. "That fight ruined him" is a pretty harsh assessment.


Probably true though.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Dan Didio posted:

Oh, lol, I forgot Hendricks was fighting next week.

Joe Silva's final act of excellent pettiness - making Bigg Rigg watch his diet and eat clean during Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Skip My Posts posted:

let him fight drat it i got money on werdum

Me too :(

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Dangersim posted:

He did gas and then get beat up though?

Exactly. He didn't "poorly manage his energy" or any of that bollocks. He gassed out because he didn't take a cardio monster volume striker bjj expert seriously.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

John Romero posted:

have we spoken lately of Mark Hunt Owns

No but we Should because he Does

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