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ManofManyAliases posted:Gamescom was disappointing. I did not buy the 600i. I feel grief. No grief needed friend, it's still in stock!
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D_Smart posted:I agree with this assessment, though I don't think GC2017 was the actual E.L.E. You see, and E.L.E comes in phases. I regard GC2017 as the "surge" phase where the ripples start radiating outward more rapidly and more powerfully, thus affecting a wider subset of affected caught in the initial blast which I wrote about back in April 2016. Yeah, this is why some people claim that you're full of poo poo, because they're looking for a single event where the whole thing collapses without realising that an extinction level event or nemesis event is effectively an environmental change that makes the ongoing viability unlikely. WRT the KT Event, the asteroid hitting the earth was the event; the actual die-back took quite a while longer. If you're looking for a single thing to pin it on, missing the December 16th deadline, after Roberts declared it was a defining moment. That they've not actually moved forward in that stalled year is more your large saurians dropping dead and a bunch of really hungry looking predators milling around. Every time there's an event like this where they tease a little bit more and throw out a ship sale, there's another percentage of vaguely reasonable backers that are asking, 'where was the progress?' and simply loving off. If I was more invested in another side of this, it would be amusing to plot the likes and retweets from SC over time to see the larger trend. Certainly the guy that intimated that the development would be completely open-ended is justifying Roberts' refusal to supply any time frame, and they've shifted that a couple of times. At this point I suspect that they want to get 3.0 in this year, but are not confident; let that sink in for a moment.
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AP posted:Yeah, the pattern seems to go:- So every Presidential race ever? 
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doingitwrong posted:America is built on hucksterism and spectacle. PT Barnum rose to prominence in 1841. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn came out in 1885. How to Win Friends and Influence People came out in 1936. Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged landed in 1957. And so on. doingitright again. I get the 'fake it 'til you make it.', there's usually a soupcon of hard word involved, though. We're solidly in 'ideas man' territory, which is dangerous if the 'ideas man' doesn't have the broad horizons and experience necessary to generate ideas. This is one of the reasons I enjoy the Zybourne Clock so much. ZenMaster posted:So every Presidential race ever? Mebbe not the one with the 'urban' fella.
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stand strong citizens! remember, blessed is the mind too small for doubt!
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Aug 29, 2017 17:48
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D_Smart posted:Hold on to your pancreas folks. hey that's pretty good
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Hey speaking of which, isn't it about time to kick the pubbies out of the super secret channel? Gamescom's over after all
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Aug 29, 2017 17:58
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Aug 29, 2017 18:04
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Tippis posted:Nah. They're not clever enough to be lazy. It takes planning and skill to be effectively lazy.
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D_Smart posted:Just gonna leave this here is this news? 
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Tippis posted:Nah. They're not clever enough to be lazy. Lazy Crunch Cheerios.
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D_Smart posted:Hold on to your pancreas folks. I backed this game in 2012 to get a new Wing Commander, complete with dodgy acting and over the top pathos, and not this monstrosity that will never work. 
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alphabettitouretti posted:https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/355735-Star-Citizen-Thread-v6?p=5869554&viewfull=1#post5869554 Yeah, this is just hilarious. The line about "Nothing is this buggy unless it is literally "cutting edge/proof of concept" software" is a joke. It might be that buggy because you suck at coding or are trying to code something impossible. CIG is not pushing any envelopes because nobody gives a poo poo what they do. They are the OUYA in between Playstation and XBOX trying to one-up each other with every console. You are only pushing the limits if your competitors feel the need to keep up with what you are doing to stay in the market.
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D_Smart posted:Hold on to your pancreas folks. *reaches up into his rear end in a top hat and rips out pancreas* WITNESS MEEEEEEEEeeeee
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Aug 29, 2017 18:34
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Trilobite posted:I can't even imagine what they could show for Squadron 42 at Citizencon; that interview Chris gave during Gamescom really made it sound like they didn't have anything working for it. The mocap's all hosed and is taking them even longer than anyone thought it would to correct, there's no AI, and they've only blocked out what they want the missions to be so far with none of them actually implemented yet. I mean, maybe he was coming down off something and feeling really depressed, but considering that his default position is to say everything's going great and there's nothing to worry about and it'll all be done "soon," he really did go out of his way to let the interviewer know that they shouldn't expect to be seeing Squadron 42 for quite some time. They blew through a year building 3.0.1, Star Citizen: The Fake 3.0 Demo instead of building mechanics to make the PU more like the demo last year and actually playable. They appear to have built that, and render to texture, and getting FaceRig stuff to work with their demo characters. Outside of the render to texture, the face thing will never be useful in an MMO environment; especially one that's already dying to sub 10 players without any fancy real time motion capture work, and the 3.0 fake demo will never be played by normal people. It's as if virtually no real forward progress has been made. I don't feel like people are any closer to the 3.0 from last year than they are this year. CIG is master level trolling and financially abusing their backers like picking flowers from a field of flowers. Even the MVP seems hilariously distant at best. Rolling on six years into the project and I still don't even know what the gently caress the gameplay loop of Star Citizen is. And I don't think Chris Roberts does either, which makes it amazing.
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The Titanic posted:Rolling on six years into the project and I still don't even know what the gently caress the gameplay loop of Star Citizen is. Talk to Miles -> get crate fetching mission -> crash
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doingitwrong posted:America is built on hucksterism and spectacle. PT Barnum rose to prominence in 1841. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn came out in 1885. How to Win Friends and Influence People came out in 1936. Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged landed in 1957. And so on. This is a weird time to actually first post in this thread (though I've been following it for a long time and enjoying the lulz) but as a researcher of American literature I agree with your overall point but wonder how you slipped a Mark Twain parody novel into this list. A more appropriate addition might be the Autobiography of Ben Franklin: "I was under for the printing-house. In order to secure my credit and character as a tradesman, I took care not only to be in reality industrious and frugal, but to avoid all appearances to the contrary."
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Beet Wagon posted:This is one of the most important things to remember when it comes to Star Citizen. Goons keep getting to the top of the roller-coaster and going "Oh boy this is the big one! It's all over now!" but it's because if anything we're being too generous in the way we think people will react. The reason CIG isn't dead yet isn't because we're wrong about Star Citizen being a steaming-fresh pile of poo poo, it's because for some people - a significant number of backers - there's no bottom, nothing CIG could do that would merit pulling their support. These people honestly argue that what we have today is already the "best drat space sim" because their brains have holes big enough to park a zeppelin in. Probably the biggest component of this mindset is that we're looking at the game itself. Most of the whales, if not all at this point, do not play the game. So there really is not going to be a way to make anybody "see the light". They'll listen to the shows, see what's coming, and then just sit there and wait until it gets out of alpha/beta/etc. Not everybody cares about playing a game in development, but that doesn't mean they don't still believe in the final product. Goons are trying to point that the journey is flawed, and the road never gets to the end of the street, much less Paradise. The backers don't care because of course it doesn't, it's just a work in progress still so the road will eventually be there.
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Foo Diddley posted:Talk to Miles -> get crate fetching mission -> crash No no no no, see you gotta go through the whole loop. First you gotta get out of the wank pod, then you have to go talk to Tony "Three Jackets" Soprano, then you gotta go buy your railgun. God knows what happens if you don't have the money for that. Then you go get a ship? Or buggy? from a console. Change clothes. Anyway after that you have to drive in the buggy, HIT THE ROCKS HIT THE ROCKS then your friend picks you up in a spaceship. Then you gotta take off, warp (?) to another planet, then crash. After that, do all of that bullshit above all over again. Eventually you go land on the planet. Disembark, wander around Tattooine for a bit, find a black(red?) box on a spaceship. When you pick it up it will be invisible, don't worry about that. Afterwards you're gonna get jumped by stormtroopers in spaceships that will not hit you. Just completely disregard those dudes, they'll !selfdestruct eventually. Railgun optional. Another spaceship will land (this ones a good guy) and you need to drive your buggy onto the ramp. I lied. That spaceship is not a good guy. The ramp will kill you. Anyway leave the box on the buggy and it'll blow up. Yeah just forget about that box, didn't matter anyway. Get on the good/bad ship, fly somewhere, another ship comes at you. Hop in your B-17 Top Turret and shoot that other ship til it blows up, then you're done! Missnino succflessul
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The Titanic posted:Goons are trying to point that the journey is flawed, and the road never gets to the end of the street, much less Paradise. The backers don't care because of course it doesn't, it's just a work in progress still so the road will eventually be there. Okay, we're into faith territory. Belief in the supernatural.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Yeah and for 20$ you can buy a program on steam that does the same thing with any webcam. Buying in once they get the panda head avatar integrated. Also looking for to the creepy as hell machinima that you just know is going to come out of this if it ever actually gets its feet off the ground within the next decade or so.
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The Titanic posted:
Yeah but he has a strong vision of snoopy caps. Fidelity. 
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Remember how star citizen once had a kickstarter?  Last update April 2013.
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Someone in the Frontier forums linked to this: EverQuest 2, five years ago
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I demand you release your files about me, Derek!
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I could swear SC_White_Knight was arguing the exact opposite the other day.
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Spatial posted:Someone in the Frontier forums linked to this: So, what's your point? That CIG, rather than working on the core functions and making real progress on a game that's years late and still in pre-alpha, is wasting time and money on a pointless feature that adds nothing worthwhile, and isn't even innovative? Typical goonie fud.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:That's basically what we're all doing, though we don't sink hundreds of dollars on a sisyphean journey up the gravity well of a black hole of vanity. 
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Tarquinn posted:I demand you release your files about me, Derek! It's Melkor that has the files, your passwords and your porn predilections cross-referenced and filed. We laughed about your porn.
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Hav posted:Yeah, this is why some people claim that you're full of poo poo, because they're looking for a single event where the whole thing collapses without realising that an extinction level event or nemesis event is effectively an environmental change that makes the ongoing viability unlikely.  
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Hav posted:It's Melkor that has the files, your passwords and your porn predilections cross-referenced and filed. I don't see what's so funny about clown porn. 
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Mr.Tophat posted:Sonic Mania is now out. Go play an actual videogame. Do it. Understand what fun is first hand. Be a fast hedgehog not a slow jpeg. Just all around good advice. Someone put that on a poster with a kitten.
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Rides Naked posted:This is a weird time to actually first post in this thread (though I've been following it for a long time and enjoying the lulz) but as a researcher of American literature I agree with your overall point but wonder how you slipped a Mark Twain parody novel into this list. A more appropriate addition might be the Autobiography of Ben Franklin: Accounting has a formalized pair of concepts related to this idea -- Independence in appearance is as important as independence in fact. Appearance is reality. Some people misunderstand that idea and apply it as SC has done. Then we get a rich trove of laughs from the results.
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Amusingly, they're just begining to notice that when it comes to "Goons", we tend to roll in large numbers. How have they been sentient beings and not by now worked out one of the most defining aspects of Goon warfare?
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The Titanic posted:Rolling on six years into the project and I still don't even know what the gently caress the gameplay loop of Star Citizen is. And I don't think Chris Roberts does either, which makes it amazing. A masterpiece that'll finally show those ingrates in Hollywood his true genius. Not to get carried away but It'll be hailed as the new Citizen Kane, mark my words. We'll look back on the time when Chris compared himself to e: Apocalypse Now I remember.
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Foo Diddley posted:Hey speaking of which, isn't it about time to kick the pubbies out of the super secret channel? Gamescom's over after all Yeah, I just asked Daz to do the purge. Propagandist posted:I wanna be a Tier1-2-3 operator You're a Goon, so automatically "Special Ops"
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