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# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:02

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:25

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

peter gabriel posted:

Stuff like that is the worst, most archaic poo poo imaginable, I loving hate games that gimp you for no good reason. There's a reason that poo poo isn't in games much now.

Before you go into a fight you have to make sure you are well-hydrated, had a good meal and bowel movement (the toilet can now be accessed), slept well, carry enough oxygen, etc. Otherwise your commando's mitochondria may not produce ATP at 100% efficiency and his cardiovascular system will not be able to deliver energy-rich blood to all the modeled muscles -including the diaphragm- which will slow the oxygen intake even more.

In short, your stamina bar charges 10% more slowly. (You can buy special medicine at the cash-shop to prevent this)

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:11

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Colostomy Bag posted:

I wonder what they will name their language?

SANDI

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:15

Brazilianpeanutwar: Aug 27, 2015; Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Crunnilingus - "Chrisisacoolguylanguage" - alienese - hackendehaaach - "everything is the same as normal English but you just put mesa on the end of everything.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:21

mdxi: Mar 13, 2006; to JERK OFF is to be close to GOD... only with SPURTING

Better Online Networking Enablement Refactoring Job-queue Improved Star Network

B.O.N.E.R.J.I.S.N

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:23

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

trucutru posted:

Before you go into a fight you have to make sure you are well-hydrated, had a good meal and bowel movement (the toilet can now be accessed), slept well, carry enough oxygen, etc. Otherwise your commando's mitochondria may not produce ATP at 100% efficiency and his cardiovascular system will not be able to deliver energy-rich blood to all the modeled muscles -including the diaphragm- which will slow the oxygen intake even more.

In short, your stamina bar charges 10% more slowly. (You can buy special medicine at the cash-shop to prevent this)

It's like the stamina bar in Dark Souls, except you have to buy oxygen tank refills, but only from the high quality oxygen suppliers. You also need high flow lines, premium breathing masks, long chain super starch food sources for burst outputs of physical performance, but you need to keep your metabolism ketogenic in order to maximize the efficiency of your mitochondria. You now have to manage a half dozen status bars.

Mining and trading come later. It's alpha, we can only get these systems in place one at a time. Stop loving complaining.

Now, let's talk about the mechanics of how players bump into NPCs, that must be softened, and their posture needs real time dynamic updating with FOV and focus changes. Just wait till you see our dialog pipeline.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:25

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Guys, it's pretty obvious the language will be named Tickle.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:26

Brazilianpeanutwar: Aug 27, 2015; Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

dissonant ergonomic realtime ergometric kellogs semantic mocapped art.

Brazilianpeanutwar fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 11, 2017

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:27

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

trucutru posted:

From the montly report:

Wow, and here I thought you just would have an oxygen bar that goes down to zero before you suffocate. No, they are modelling how the players breathe and how their bodies convert that air into stamina.

What a bunch of bullshit.

Also: "have started being implemented and soon..." Out in 2014/2015/2016/2017

I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that they think modeling oxygen usage and flow is a better idea than just having an oxygen meter, or the fact that people believe that's what they're actually doing.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:30

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

trucutru posted:

SANDI

To be honest I was going to suggest this as well since the language Ada was named after Ada Lovelace, a pioneering woman in the field many many years ago.

So what better name than that? Name a language after the best marketer in the world.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:33

Spatial: Nov 15, 2007

Beet Wagon posted:

I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that they think modeling oxygen usage and flow is a better idea than just having an oxygen meter, or the fact that people believe that's what they're actually doing.

An oxygen bar is technically 'modeling' usage and flow of oxygen. It's just that the model is very crude. :v:

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:35

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

pls speak ingliss

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:35

Lack of Gravitas: Oct 11, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I can't imagine Internet access being all that fantastic in Darwin, Australia though. Is Australian internet real poo poo, like in the US? Or worse?

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

For reference I pay about $35 for my 100/100 connection. I could upgrade to 250/100 for $50 or 1000/100 for about $85.

Speed is always reliably ~102 mbps downstream

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I also have a penis the size of your underarm and I've probably slept with your sisters

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:35

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Beet Wagon posted:

I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that they think modeling oxygen usage and flow is a better idea than just having an oxygen meter, or the fact that people believe that's what they're actually doing.

Hopefully they have options in store for different pressures. For 5,000 UEC you can upgrade to a triox tank.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:35

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Spatial posted:

An oxygen bar is technically 'modeling' usage and flow of oxygen. It's just that the model is very crude.

Sort of my point, except I worded it dumb. Look at it this way, there's two options CIG has for implementing their "you need to breathe" system:

A) A big bar on the bottom of your screen and you move slower and eventually die when it runs out, like every other video game ever.

or

B) A complex system whereby your spaceman has realistically modeled blood flow and oxygenation rates - all represented by a big bar on the bottom of your screen and you moving slower and eventually dying when it runs out.

The endpoint is the same as far as the user is concerned, so why would you go through the trouble of trying to do all that extra poo poo when it's almost infinitely easier/simpler to just do the the way it's always been done? And that of course is aside from the fact that they're going to ultimately end up realizing how hard and stupid and dumb it is to do thing the way they say they are and they'll decide to just choose path A anyway despite telling the credulous masses that they've chosen path B. Like if this isn't the one thing everyone needs to go "Oh yeah, I guess it is a scam" then I don't know how to help these people :psyduck:

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:41

Spatial: Nov 15, 2007

Beet! Clearly they're going to use volumetric simulations of individual blood cells and aggregate results in the cloud! You cynical leaver! Why don't you believe in CIG 3.0 is coming soon?!??!?!?

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:45

Xaerael: Aug 25, 2010; Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

The retarded part about making alien languages is that it's just going to be a human gibberish language.

Make the Huuliguns or whatever loving stupid name meow. Or bark. Or Baa like a loving sheep. THESE are "alien" to us. "Gleep glop wickety snoo snarr ikky ikky fitang" isn't alien. it's just a human saying "Gleep glop wickety snoo snarr ikky ikky fitang".

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:47

DapperDon: Sep 7, 2016

XK posted:

Guys, it's pretty obvious the language will be named Tickle.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:53

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Xaerael posted:

The retarded part about making alien languages is that it's just going to be a human gibberish language.

Make the Huuliguns or whatever loving stupid name meow. Or bark. Or Baa like a loving sheep. THESE are "alien" to us. "Gleep glop wickety snoo snarr ikky ikky fitang" isn't alien. it's just a human saying "Gleep glop wickety snoo snarr ikky ikky fitang".

Bah weep granna weep ninibong.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:06

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Sunswipe posted:

Bah weep granna weep ninibong.

Please, keep Ben's last AtV comments out of this when describing a ship.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:08

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that they think modeling oxygen usage and flow is a better idea than just having an oxygen meter, or the fact that people believe that's what they're actually doing.

But imagine the possibilities! You can use your trusty space knife to cut another's commando air-hose then watch as they slowly die in front of you, while you stab their innards and a fine mist blood crystallizes into an almost immaterial zero-g sculpture to your power. Oh yeeeeah, that's the stuff.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:09

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Sunswipe posted:

Bah weep granna weep ninibong.

All out of funds! Sorry!

*gets evicerated*

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:13

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Dare to be stupid, back this game!

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:13

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

DapperDon posted:

All you've done is remind that I wish there was a modern HD re-edit of this Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkqqiFQLAI

If I recall correctly, it was originally a Goon who put that together, well over 10 years ago.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:17

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Spatial posted:

Beet! Clearly they're going to use volumetric simulations of individual blood cells and aggregate results in the cloud! You cynical leaver! Why don't you believe in CIG 3.0 is coming soon?!??!?!?

My faith has failed me! Or have I failed my faith? :negative:

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:18

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Lack of Gravitas posted:

Also by what loving standard is that an "A-" :lol:

e: "Faster than 81% of Australia" :roflolmao:

I hope that's by area and not population

Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Feb 11, 2017

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:19

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

I like to imagine commandos imagining themselves as paladins fighting a Holy War in the name of their god, but then they have to take a break because they ran out of cheetos or whatever.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:20

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

trucutru posted:

But imagine the possibilities! You can use your trusty space knife to cut another's commando air-hose then watch as they slowly die in front of you, while you stab their innards and a fine mist blood crystallizes into an almost immaterial zero-g sculpture to your power. Oh yeeeeah, that's the stuff.

Meanwhile a commando wearing nothing but a baseball cap and tightie whities spacewalks to your autism chariot by jetting steam from his nipples, clips through the canopy into the pilot seat and flies off into the sunset.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:22

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

I can't wait until I can pierce my own oxygen tank to create some extra thrust in zero-G combat.

I can't wait to assassinate someone by switching their air supply with poison gas.

I can't wait until I have to manage different atmosphere compositions for the different races traveling in my space airline.

I can't wait to collect rare air from exotic planets.

With a well-developed breathing simulation the possibilities are endless, pledge now commando.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:23

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

They're nuts. That aside from the fact that it's all bullshit.

In LoD, right now, there is an oxygen meter that's monitored if you go under water. When you run out while under, you die. If you come up, it refills. Just like what happens if your jetpack runs out of energy; you fall to the ground.

And I have modeled oxygen in all my previous BC/UC games for the same reason, and it uses the same method. It works, and there is no need to reinvent the wheel or chase bullshit fidelity.

There is no reason for any oxygen modeling (which can use the same modeling they do for eva btw) like they're suggesting; let alone a new 'language' for any backend work. Of course, notice how they didn't even say what that is; other than give it a fancy name.

I think all of this is a ploy to justify the bullshit development and costs. And these devs are just pulling a paycheck now, without asking any questions.

Just as I took one look at a Summer 2015 update like this, then concluded that the project was hosed, which prompted my first blog; this update is just another nail in that opinion. Anyone reading this latest update and thinking, "yeah these clowns are making a game", and didn't ask for a refund, deserves to lose their money.

There is no way this game - as pitched - gets made.

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:24

Ayn Marx: Dec 21, 2012

Oh good I was afraid Line of Defense wouldn't be name-dropped on this page

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:27

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

D_Smart posted:

They're nuts. That aside from the fact that it's all bullshit.

In LoD, right now, there is an oxygen meter that's monitored if you go under water. When you run out while under, you die. If you come up, it refills. Just like what happens if your jetpack runs out of energy; you fall to the ground.

And I have modeled oxygen in all my previous BC/UC games for the same reason, and it uses the same method. It works, and there is no need to reinvent the wheel or chase bullshit fidelity.

There is no reason for any oxygen modeling (which can use the same modeling they do for eva btw) like they're suggesting; let alone a new 'language' for any backend work. Of course, notice how they didn't even say what that is; other than give it a fancy name.

I think all of this is a ploy to justify the bullshit development and costs. And these devs are just pulling a paycheck now, without asking any questions.

Just as I took one look at a Summer 2015 update like this, then concluded that the project was hosed, which prompted my first blog; this update is just another nail in that opinion. Anyone reading this latest update and thinking, "yeah these clowns are making a game", and didn't ask for a refund, deserves to lose their money.

There is no way this game - as pitched - gets made.

Post your speedtest.net speeds

# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:28