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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

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Color us shocked.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Tippis posted:

What PANTONE® Coated number is that?

It's SC, so any tone of grey will suffice.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Sunswipe posted:

I hope there's going to be a fastening your safety belt minigame.

Pffft, this is Star Citizen.

Ships will have those god awful automatic seat belts like some cars from the 80's early 90's had.

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Jan 11, 2016

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TheLightPurges posted:

I have returned.

Another nightmare over.

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Jan 11, 2016

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trucutru posted:

You can bet you rear end the ray-tracing algorithm they use to figure out which surfaces are closer to the camera is hosed-up beyond belief and cannot deal with their 64-bit implementation. Add to that artists who are given carte blanche to throw a billion triangles into everything and the poor algo must have developed self-awareness and killed itself.

The poor algorithm felt grief.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Sunswipe posted:

Couple of favorites from the poo poo what I made:




Yeah, that was a masterstroke.

Ever had opportunities to tell a loved one about bizarre poo poo that this dumpster fire produced? Yet realize around five minutes into the conversation it would take another 20 hours of background stories to get them up to speed?

That is what I find the most sickening and heartbreaking truth.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Sunswipe posted:

Met up with a friend a few months ago and I started to briefly explain this bizarre thing I'd been following online. Constantly interrupting my own outline with "Oh, and this crazy thing happened as well, which led to..." Although I don't think anything really tops the reaction you get to "People are spending hundreds of dollars on imaginary spaceships for a game that isn't finished, from a company with no plan of how to make it, run by a man who got run out of the games industry for loving up this exact same idea before. Oh, and his VP of marketing is his ex-tickle-pornstar wife. No really, people are paying hundreds of dollars. There's one guy who's in for like 30 grand."

If/when this thing finally collapses or explodes, I honestly hope someone does a book on it. A news story just wouldn't be able to cover even a fraction of the story.

Ding ding exactly.

I'm not sure how one would begin to craft the book. Hell you'd have to start with the Wing Commander days, followed up with race horses and a used car dealership and then the kickstarter fest. That is a fiasco just getting to that point.

But the real treasures are like you pointed out. You'd be explaining the story and then have to catch yourself with tales of the tickler, the hate speech Ben rantings and creepy pictures, all the different *gates, spitting on the cake, devious ship sales, etc.

In the end, the "would you believe people have dumped thousands into this" is probably the most effective. So combine it all along with the Stimpire poo poo, and sprinkle our Warlord blogs into this the book would be more convoluted than the existing source code. Poetic justice in the grand scheme of things.

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Jan 11, 2016

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KM Scorchio posted:

Space football stretch goal plz

Edit: that actually seems like a perfect CR spontaneous promise to cause his programmers to tear their hair out. Guys let's have an in game sports network so players can watch other players play sports sub games live while they fly their fully physics modeled autism chariots around 100 handcrafted star systems.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain betting on racing, sata ball and SM matches will indeed be in the game.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Amarcarts posted:

Just imagine that one day there might be a Star Citizen museum with choice framed GIF's and JPEGs and terminals where people can browse these threads.

What other sorts of displays would be good for this museum?

Here are some ideas:
-Life size replica of pallets of $100 bills showing how much money was spent on the game
-Wax statues of some of the Key players in classic poses (Ben on the Couch, Chris at the computer playing)
-Derek's original blog post, The fourth stimpire text, and Chris's reply to the escapists all printed on parchment papers in climate controlled cases like where they keep the declaration of independence
-Bathrooms will be designed to be like on the ships
-A coin operated golf cart ride

Replica of the LA coffee shop that serves beverages and donuts at inflated prices.
A cut-a-way display of the space door showing the inner-workings of the garage door opener.
A gift shop that sells jpegs of coffee mugs and other items.
Crates where children and adults can play hide and seek.

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Jan 11, 2016

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cool new Polack jokes posted:

This bugs me too. Xian is also the contemporary Chinese name for China itself within the country. What are the other alien races and what real life stereotypes are they based on?

Probably the Polacki with some light bulb change mechanic that requires three players.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Tokamak posted:

ancient Xian proverb

Developer Ben's Fried Chicken

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Jan 11, 2016

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MeLKoR posted:

Derek is William.

Impossible. Roberts only wears black, hence he has to be the MiB.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Oleyo posted:

The user-made models were always very 'round' and smooth and would tank your framerate. To this day, If i see edges that are too round my brain screams "inefficieeeeeeeent!" There was a real skill to representing shapes with the fewest triangles possible that I really enjoyed.



Guess you won't be working for CIG. Apologies if you feel grief.

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Jan 11, 2016

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ManofManyAliases posted:

It currently cannot fit the P85x, which is also flyable in evocati. It's really made for dragonflies right now - hoping that will change.

You and me both brother.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

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Fascinating...you would think the algorithm would adjust the Y-axis to be the bottom for the stats yet it dips below that.

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Jan 11, 2016

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CrazyLoon posted:

Okay, I'm honestly getting loving sick of this word, so imma ask: Is evocati literally the name CIG gave to their creme-de-la-creme testers? This wasn't some label tacked on by evil goonies or such, this is literally what they came up with?

Because if so... :laffo:

As per usual for this thread of autism, what does your heart say?

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

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stimpire.txt

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Jan 11, 2016

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Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

god drat these loving people

32 gig lol.

Final game will ship on one of those 8TB helium filled drives.

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Jan 11, 2016

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TheLightPurges posted:

Its the worlds itchiest sweater on a pole with several very uncomfrotable naked mole rats inside it.

The real question is what heartbreaking and sickening calamity could cause the Stimperor to order it to fly half-staff.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Beet Wagon posted:


2016


e: links and dates

Glad it has more air intakes for well, you know...ah nevermind.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Dementropy posted:

It's like they actually took time and made a concerted effort to make it more generic-looking over the years. You have to actually *work* to get those results from your average SC chariot.

It is called refactoring. Geez.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Ash1138 posted:

lol SA subscribers

Is there some SA evocati poo poo I can buy?

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Jan 11, 2016

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The Titanic posted:

I have no balls and still cringed. This looks painful. The gif is like, too short for reactions. :stare:

Shaved Newtonian physics.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Sandweed posted:

So he bailed from Ubisoft to work on SC? That's a stranger carer choice.

Maybe he found Uplay inferior to the SC store.

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Jan 11, 2016

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roflingstones posted:

how do you maintain an erection before the sexual fetish revolution of 2050 and the release of star citizen?

Blogs.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Amarcarts posted:

I watched a leaked video of 2.6 where the camera was circling ships in a hangar as the colors on the ships were changing. This was showing off some of the different color schemes that people can use to customize their ships. The idea of being able to customize stuff is cool to a limited extent but it's also probably going to make some people mad that are more towards the RP/Sim end of the spectrum. I know that's annoying to me in games like Black Ops III when you're trying to play a military game and there are just rainbow colored dudes bunny hopping all over the map.

Imagine if you warp in with your $2,000 grimdark doom chariot and you get ganked by a dozen guys in pink starter ships abusing the flight model to circle strafe or some poo poo like that.

Sounds like a recipe for grief.

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Jan 11, 2016

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POOL IS CLOSED posted:



Worse, at least in US bankruptcy law, employees with unpaid wages come after most other creditors, and their claims are limited to unpaid wages within the previous 180 days (starting with cessation of business operations or the bankruptcy filing, whichever's earlier) and those are limited to something like $13k or less (can't remember when the last time this poo poo was adjusted for inflation). I imagine creditor priority is similar, if not largely identical, elsewhere. German insolvency rules seem very similar (excepting domestic support order stuff, which changed here in '05).


Yeah, pretty much. At least employee wages fall behind secured creditors (banks and other financial institutions dumb enough to loan them money) and unsecured creditors (probably the biggest one is Restoration Hardware and other accounts payable with net terms such as the catering service) on the totem pole of getting hosed in the rear end.

The funny thing about all of this shitstorm I find right at the moment are the financials. It is not a panacea to exposing this smoking gun. Sure it will basically show how much they blow through in salaries, how much is in cash and assets on the balance sheet but you won't find the gritty details of officer compensations and such. Only thing we hang on to is is the UK filings which are outdated and probably doctored beyond belief.

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Jan 11, 2016

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POOL IS CLOSED posted:

I don't know anything about UK financial statements standards -- they don't include a disclosure of the compensation to the top managers (CEO, CFO, etc.)? That's one of my favorite things about reading public companies' filings for the US. :sigh: Why couldn't CIG make this clusterfuck even more fantastic by going public here?

Well I don't either. :v: But the latest filings (sorry don't have a link) does a line item for "higher up type" compensation which we basically determined by default was Erin. When I said doctored, given 14 different corps hell he or anyone could be paid from different ones that could fall under the radar of reporting requirements.

But in the end, CIG isn't a public company so we need to rely on their oath they will release financials (ha ha). But like I said before, they won't mean much besides showing rampant waste and how much cash they actually have. "Financials" are pretty much a broad term that gets tossed around after the month closes. There's the set the board sees which are usually consolidated and there's the individual sets managers and directors see for variance tracking. Either way, you aren't going to see the 50,000 journal entries that hit the GL or compensation.

Since you enjoy some of this stuff, get on guidestar and look up 990 forms for non-profits. The executive compensation levels are a few pages in. Pick a charity, and see how much they make. Eye opener.

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Jan 11, 2016

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Foo Diddley posted:

A man steps out of the Gamestop into the post-apocalyptic ruins of his city

Finally he has time to play all the video games, but then! his VR goggles fall from his face and shatter on the ground

A man wheezes while he rolls off of some cheeto encrusted $8K sofa into the post-apocalyptic ruins of a crowdfunding campaign.

Finally he has all the time in the world to catalog all the Wing Commander universe. His amulet hung around his neck falls and breaks into a thousand pieces.

Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Dec 11, 2016

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Jan 11, 2016

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A warlord who wrote countless words and referenced the word July beyond belief finds himself vindicated.

* A lot of nutsacks explode *

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Jan 11, 2016

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TheAgent posted:

btw I guess some peeps are looking into a CIGs personal finances

should be interesting

:parpcorn:

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Jan 11, 2016

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ManofManyAliases posted:

Never stop being smug.

Hail the Stimperor.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

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See you in the mesh.

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Jan 11, 2016

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A Neurotic Corncob posted:

Sounds to me like Chris cancelled Christmas so the overworked staff can scramble to get 2.6 Live.

And what happened, then? Well, in Santa Monica they say – that the Crobert's wallet grew three sizes that day. And then – the true meaning of Star Citizen came through, and the Croberts found the strength of ten companies, plus two!

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Jan 11, 2016

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Fooma posted:

What prevents them from just releasing 2.6 to live as is? It's pre-pre alpha anyway. SM is it's own module ready for pre alpha alpha testing which is all those testers are there to do anyway. PU not really as affected worse than it already is. It's not like it's being released to a live game with a hostile audience.

Money is one reason.

Their bandwidth costs due to the patcher ain't cheap.

efb

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Jan 11, 2016

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Given the potential massive success of this game, I'm sure Sony is prepping special 6TB PS4 units for the retail market that come preloaded with the complete SC franchise.

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Jan 11, 2016

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DapperDon posted:

They have been doing commercials for Time Warner broadband down in Fl. where Chris is plugging the massive data that he uses and transfers around the world. So I wonder if there is some kind of bargain that came with that deal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElvZm7pOIFs

Oh I'm sure there is a deal, just like the mocap studio was free and were the actors so they could be a part of this dumpster fire like many do for a Tarantino film.

Given how inefficient the patcher is, combined with cloud computing costs...it is no wonder they trimmed it down to a select few. And that is the genius of CIG marketing, turn a dumpster fire situation into something special called the evocati to put a positive spin on things while mitigating this fiasco of open development.

The one thing they could reduce costs with (the patcher) has been hashed around for drat near a year and would generate actual cost savings. Yet they don't give a poo poo, because their manpower is better spent elsewhere creating shiny objects to sell more snake oil. The patcher is low hanging fruit to pluck in regards to reducing expenses yet remains elusive. Either they have a dearth of talent or it is a scam. I'm thinking the latter created the first in required human capital that could pull it off.

It is amazing really. Companies will trip over themselves to save a buck. They don't need to...just release another concept and kick the can down the road because it isn't glamorous.

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Jan 11, 2016

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DapperDon posted:

What I am saying is that it is not uncommon for that kind of deal if they are in fact using TW services.

Oh I understood, perhaps I didn't articulate my point enough so my apologies.

LA shipping a broken jpeg up to Manchester via TWC will be flat rate (discounted with any promotion.) Guess my point is some frilly commercial saving a few thousand bucks a month is trivial compared to their cloud costs.

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Jan 11, 2016

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alf_pogs posted:

for legitimate reasons unrelated to the obfuscation of ill gotten gains

I feel grief that taxes weren't covered in the 4th Stimpire.

We need to fill in the lore to cover this for it to be more believable.

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Jan 11, 2016

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spacetoaster posted:

To protect money and assets of a business, or personal, nature.

Create corporation/llc/business/etc 1,2,3,4.

Say you sue #1 for a million bucks. #1 only has 5 dollars in the bank and you point out that #1 has a 250,000 dollar car. No it doesn't. That car actually belongs to #2 and #1 was just allowed to use it. Etc, etc, on down the line. Corporations are people and can own property in the U.S.

I'm pretty sure my example was dumb, but you get the idea. I hope.

Yeah, on the right track. The lease is basically an expense towards the company on a monthly basis. In short, even though the car might go away on a tow truck when this baby collapses, it is cheaper than outright buying it with their salaries in the end. Expense it to the company.

There is no hope with auditors in catching something. I'm sure everything is squeaky clean when they go though it all to fulfill GAAP type stuff yearly.

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