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i am harry: Oct 14, 2003

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I just loving hate computers.

A day doesn't go by that I don't profusely thank 17-year-old me for somehow getting a tattoo apprenticeship so that I could be free from servicedesk bullshit years later upon realizing the same thing.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 03:58

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:40

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

Smiling Jack posted:

I know a guy who was still making a living as a fuckin MUMPS programmer in 2017.

lots of healthcare still runs on MUMPS

# ? Sep 25, 2019 03:58

Smiling Jack: Dec 2, 2001; I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Malcolm XML posted:

lots of healthcare still runs on MUMPS

Finance also. He worked for the VA before going to some Wall $treet firm.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 03:58

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

Malcolm XML posted:

lots of healthcare still runs on MUMPS

I thought they eradicated that years ago?

# ? Sep 25, 2019 04:13

Missing Donut: Apr 24, 2003; Trying to lead a middle-aged life. Well, it's either that or drop dead.

HootTheOwl posted:

I thought they eradicated that years ago?

Anti-vaxxers not keeping their programming languages up to date

# ? Sep 25, 2019 04:16

HootTheOwl: May 13, 2012; Hootin and shootin

Missing Donut posted:

Anti-vaxxers not keeping their programming languages up to date

The human body was not designed to handle dot net.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 04:35

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

HootTheOwl posted:

I thought they eradicated that years ago?

Healthcare is a weird mix of very new thinking and technology, and very, very, terrifyingly old thinking and technology.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 05:23

TyroneGoldstein: Mar 30, 2005

Paradoxish posted:

The only person I know who's still in any kind of user facing IT constantly bitches that the young people at his company somehow manage to know less about computers than all the middle-aged office drones. It's a sample size of one, though, so eh.

Gonna drag this back up....As a long time IT guy in higher ed, this is very true. You go over 50 ish and it's a wasteland and under 30 ish it's another wasteland. I think there was just a sweet spot where people had to put in work to use these things but not so much that it was overwhelming.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 11:38

Rhandhali: Sep 7, 2003; This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone...; Grimey Drawer

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Healthcare is a weird mix of very new thinking and technology, and very, very, terrifyingly old thinking and technology.

Electronic medical records are universally awful and a great example of this. A lot of organizations stick to old, broken software because the support costs are insane and switching EMRs are practically unheard of.

I worked with one clinic software, ATHENA, that would not recognize generic names. At all. If I want to prescribe albuterol, I only get the little vials you put into a machine to nebulize. Totally useless if you are anywhere but where the machine is.

To get the patient what they need I have to put in ProAir, Ventolin or another brand name to get the pump. And I have to know which brand name the insurance will cover; we only did electronic scripts so the program sends a script for that brand name to the pharmacy.

Sometimes the pharmacist has two brain cells to rub together and just gives the brand that the patients insurance covers (they�re literally the same drat thing), but mostly I get someone screaming about how they were going to have to pay 800 dollars per inhaler.

But it was the cheapest system that money could buy, so it was what the suits wanted. I would be much happier with a typewriter and a prescription pad but for various legal mandates nope, gotta do e-scripts.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 13:08

Zamujasa: Oct 27, 2010; Bread Liar

Solaris 2.0 posted:

I work in Service Desk.

They key to completely bringing your organization to a grinding halt is to initialize a Group Policy that removes your users desktop shortcuts.

A major of users, no matter the age, are utterly paralyzed when you remove their shortcuts. Like, they can�t even figure out how to click the Windows Start menu, a functionality that has been around for nearly 25 years, to find their programs / Google Chrome.

This includes our application development team. People who should loving know better.

It�s nice knowing there will be a need for service desk/Desktop Support for the foreseeable future.

The other thing is that a lot of the time the desktop was the place files that were downloaded were saved to by default. Pretty sure we all have our own stories of people who have a desktop that's nothing but various files and the occasional shortcut.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 18:34

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

TyroneGoldstein posted:

Gonna drag this back up....As a long time IT guy in higher ed, this is very true. You go over 50 ish and it's a wasteland and under 30 ish it's another wasteland. I think there was just a sweet spot where people had to put in work to use these things but not so much that it was overwhelming.

Its thee goldilocks years people who were exposed or forced to use windows 2000 - windows vista and ad hoc troubleshooting was all you had. Ive never used windows 10.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 19:14

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

TyroneGoldstein posted:

Gonna drag this back up....As a long time IT guy in higher ed, this is very true. You go over 50 ish and it's a wasteland and under 30 ish it's another wasteland. I think there was just a sweet spot where people had to put in work to use these things but not so much that it was overwhelming.

There was a time when you pretty much had to know what you were doing to have a functional computer at all. You didn't have a choice but to learn things like IRQ stuff, how to use a command line, how to manually connect your modem...that sort of thing. There was no USB, plug and play didn't exist, and the internet as we know it didn't exist yet. Chances are if something broke you were on your own. Yeah you could get help from the other computer nerds you knew but you called them on the phone or read a physical book. You could just google "how do I fix this problem?" and follow a WikiHow.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 22:24

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

ToxicSlurpee posted:

There was a time when you pretty much had to know what you were doing to have a functional computer at all. You didn't have a choice but to learn things like IRQ stuff, how to use a command line, how to manually connect your modem...that sort of thing. There was no USB, plug and play didn't exist, and the internet as we know it didn't exist yet. Chances are if something broke you were on your own. Yeah you could get help from the other computer nerds you knew but you called them on the phone or read a physical book. You could just google "how do I fix this problem?" and follow a WikiHow.

You're grossly overstating things. Back in those days most people didn't have a modem. They rarely added upgrade parts to their computers themselves, in part because setting up IRQ settings et al was pretty hard manually. But tons of software was out there to set things up for you, and there was most importantly plenty of retailers that would gladly overcharge for service, and support lines from the various companies making the user's software and hardware that would explain how to do things. To say nothing of how most software and hardware not meant for hobbyists came with pretty extensive guides for novices to install the thing in question.

And once things like modems started to become widespread... your ISP or other online service provider had tech support available.

"On your own" christ, that was never a thing for computers sold in retail stores, as opposed to people who were homebrewing micros or people insisting on building their own clones in the 80s/90s - both groups of people usually being folks who were already tech minded since they were doing this stuff.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 22:46

Lambert: Apr 15, 2018; by Fluffdaddy; Fallen Rib

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# ? Sep 25, 2019 23:10

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Lambert posted:

Someone please explain this reference to me.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 23:16

Lambert: Apr 15, 2018; by Fluffdaddy; Fallen Rib

It's a Fish Mac (Filet-o-fish). In parts of Europe, McDonald's used to call it by the first name.

# ? Sep 25, 2019 23:20

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

Mister Facetious posted:

Someone please explain this reference to me.

It's a chicken sandwich

# ? Sep 26, 2019 00:12

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

I said the reference/metaphor, not the object.

# ? Sep 26, 2019 00:57

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 12, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Fish Mac = fishmech

It's not like it's a weathervane or anything, jesus

# ? Sep 26, 2019 02:05

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Fish Mac = fishmech

It's not like it's a weathervane or anything, jesus

I just bought my first iphone recently, so I thought it was some weird Apple joke that I've never heard of. v :v:

# ? Sep 26, 2019 02:15

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Lambert posted:

Is this from wendys

# ? Sep 26, 2019 02:59

Grand Prize Winner: Feb 19, 2007

european mcdonalds is basically wendys

# ? Sep 26, 2019 05:39

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Australian Wendy's is an ice cream bar.

# ? Sep 26, 2019 05:54

BlueBlazer: Apr 1, 2010

ToxicSlurpee posted:

There was a time when you pretty much had to know what you were doing to have a functional computer at all. You didn't have a choice but to learn things like IRQ stuff, how to use a command line, how to manually connect your modem...that sort of thing. There was no USB, plug and play didn't exist, and the internet as we know it didn't exist yet. Chances are if something broke you were on your own. Yeah you could get help from the other computer nerds you knew but you called them on the phone or read a physical book. You could just google "how do I fix this problem?" and follow a WikiHow.

Hold on, I gotta hang up the modem to call you real quick, my mom is on the other line....

# ? Sep 26, 2019 21:38

Dylan16807: May 12, 2010

Lambert posted:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Maybe save that for when he's on some ultra pedantic tangent and not just disagreeing with somebody?

# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:53

Lambert: Apr 15, 2018; by Fluffdaddy; Fallen Rib

Am I supposed to actually read Fishmac posts?

# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:56

anonumos: Jul 14, 2005; Fuck it.

You're supposed to put his rear end on your ignore list, then add everyone who engages with him, too. Pretty soon the signal to noise ratio in all of your bookmarked threads reaches something worth reading.

# ? Sep 26, 2019 23:10

pseudanonymous: Aug 30, 2008; When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

anonumos posted:

You're supposed to put his rear end on your ignore list, then add everyone who engages with him, too. Pretty soon the signal to noise ratio in all of your bookmarked threads reaches something worth reading.

I wish this theory like.. worked. But some of the most infamous trolls or badposters of SA are still around, still derailing threads in tyool 2019. There's just too many credulous fools or even new members.

# ? Sep 27, 2019 14:54

anonumos: Jul 14, 2005; Fuck it.

pseudanonymous posted:

I wish this theory like.. worked. But some of the most infamous trolls or badposters of SA are still around, still derailing threads in tyool 2019. There's just too many credulous fools or even new members.

It's an iterative process...

# ? Sep 27, 2019 16:42

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008

anonumos posted:

You're supposed to put his rear end on your ignore list, then add everyone who engages with him, too. Pretty soon the signal to noise ratio in all of your bookmarked threads reaches something worth reading.

That's a sad and pathetic way to interact with the forums

# ? Sep 29, 2019 05:08