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Oct 27, 2010

DC Murderverse posted:

Rand Paul is so adorable.

That's not "adorable", that's "ambitious". The Republicans only have 52 Senate seats, so anyone who's willing to flip needs to be paid careful attention. By going out of his way to vote "no", he's sending a signal to the leadership of both parties.

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Oct 27, 2010

Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:

Donald Trump is going to build the wall, and it's going to be the most elegant version of paying people to shovel money into holes then dig it up ever, and it's going to resurrect our domestic economy.

Hail Trump. :cry:

Not likely. Notice that he's not going to start a new wall effort, he's going to ask Congress to fund the existing build-a-wall law that Bush passed in 2006...but which Congress defunded after only a token effort because they thought it was too expensive.

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Oct 27, 2010

FuturePastNow posted:

The filibuster will very quickly go away if the Democrats filibuster anything

Just like it did in 2009, right?

I wouldn't count the filibuster out just yet. It still serves one very important purpose: being an excuse for Republicans to not live up to promises they never intended to keep.

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Oct 27, 2010

Fulchrum posted:

...what? If it's a simple majority decision to uphold or take away the means by the minority to block the majority, why does it even exist at all? What does a supermajority even matter?

A lot of the Senate rules are based in tradition. Put simply, the reason there's a filibuster is because there's always been a filibuster. It sounds stupid, but it's worked so far because the majority party wants to have the filibuster as an option in case they're the minority in the future, and they know that if they abolish it then there's no way their opponents will put it back - once any party abolishes the filibuster once, it's gone forever, because no one's going to bother to put it back once it's been removed once.

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