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HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Meet Dick and Betsy DeVos, billionaires.



They own a mansion and a yacht.



The Yacht is named Windquest, which is important to remember. That 22,000 sq ft architectural whore of Babylon is their summer lake cottage. It also boasts a 6,000 sq ft guest house, tennis courts and indoor pool.

Betsy DeVos's maiden name is Prince, of the Edgar Prince family. They're another fabulously rich West Michigan family with lots of political influence. Betsy's brother, Erik, started a company called Blackwater. You might have heard of them.

Did I mention the DeVos's also own a private jet named Alticor? That's also important. They like to name things after their companies.

If you don't know much about Amway, this is the direct sales MLM company that started selling laundry soap and vitamins in the 1940's, then branched out into other products. Amway works through networking members. You join the company by paying a membership fee, then you annoy your family and friends to buy overpriced products. The point is to get them to become members too, so then when they annoy their friends and family trying to sell Amway's overpriced products, you get a kickback from what they make. People in the bottom rung of membership make less than two grand a year, on average, so the money isn't in selling Amway's overpriced crap, it's about suckering more people into joining and selling Amway's overpriced crap.

Amway's biggest market in the world is China, and just about all of Amway's manufacturing now is in China and other Asian countries. Russia is another major market for the company. When Russia announced their 2014 embargo on all western food products, including the United States in response to sanctions over Crimea, the exception made was dietary supplements. Amway owns the biggest share of supplement sales in Russia, making over a billion dollars a year in that country alone.

The DeVos family uses all that sweet bank to fund their many projects and causes. Members of the Dutch Reformed Church (now Christian Reformed) they practice Dominion Theology, which means they want the United States to be a Christian-dominated theocracy. Dick and Betsy DeVos support all the usual fundamentalist causes: Anti LGBT, anti choice, anti public schools, anti union, anti anything and anyone who doesn't think and believe exactly the way they do.

Some of the DeVos's better known organizations:

Great Lakes Education Project - the man running this organization is Gary Naeyaert. GLEP is Betsy DeVos's Michigan organization to eradicate public schools in the state. They have been very successful, but the DeVos's took their show nationwide so this project mostly emails questionnaires to political candidates and publishes lists of candidates who support "school choice".

Michigan Freedom Fund - another project of the DeVos family, this organizaton is broader in scope, promoting "limited government and putting people first. This organization is run by Greg McNeilly. In March 21, 2014, a federal judge struck down the DeVos-funded legislation banning same sex marriage in Michigan. For a narrow window of time, same sex marriage was legal in Michigan, until DeVos-funded AG Bill Schuette found a judge to put an injunction on same sex marriage in the state. During that narrow window, Greg McNeilly married his partner, Douglas Meeks on March 22, 2014.

American Federation for Children - This is GLEP gone nationwide. Betsy failed in getting the cap on charters lifted in 2002, failed in getting her husband elected governor in 2006, and Michigan's constitution bans school vouchers, so she decided to go after states that didn't do enough to protect public education.



Betsy DeVos knows her billions can buy everything she wants. She donated millions to Trump's presidential campaign, and she wants to eradicate America's public school system.



On January 17, 2017, the confirmation hearing for Betsy DeVos to become Trump's Education Secretary is scheduled to begin. Discuss!

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Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro
this mama is gonna maga!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlXQej5ZRc

cams
Mar 28, 2003


i look forward to working as a teacher at a school sponsored by a major weapons manufacturer

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Here's a transparent Betsy.



Should also mention her company, Boxed Water is Better, tried to cash in on the Flint Water Crisis.

https://twitter.com/boxedwater/status/708359339539431424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

HUGE PUBES A PLUS has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Jan 14, 2017

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/821055730857996288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
her family runs a pyramid scheme

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

I work in a public school how hosed am i

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
The DeVoses are turds and Grand Rapids is a turd city. In fact that whole Grand Rapids/Holland/Grand Haven triangle sucks and I say that as a Michigan native.

I'm friends on FB with a couple of my former HS teachers (of arts programs no less!) and I've never seen them this upset about something.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Uncle Wemus posted:

I work in a public school how hosed am i

As the principal of the high school of the district I work in said, "It's over."

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.



Certainly the crypt keeper's scariest story yet

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Here's a transparent Betsy.



Should also mention her company, Boxed Water is Better, tried to cash in on the Flint Water Crisis.

https://twitter.com/boxedwater/status/708359339539431424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

lmbo box water

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

devtesla posted:

lmbo box water

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
Hahaha instead of milk in a box with a free lunch they're gonna get water in a box and bread if they pay 2.99.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
I for one am looking forward to not being able to save for my kid's college because I'm too busy paying their private school tuition

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
It's like a lovely zoo cafeteria in every school

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
why would you bring a child into this world?

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
It's going to be incredibly funny when 10-15 years down the line the disparity in education practices between states starts to kick in full and you end up with entire generations of functionally illiterate children in some places because Betsy Devos let them blow up their entire school system.

Or incredibly lovely, I guess, if you live in those states and want your neighbors, friends and coworkers to be able to loving read.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

It's going to be incredibly funny when 10-15 years down the line the disparity in education practices between states starts to kick in full and you end up with entire generations of functionally illiterate children in some places because Betsy Devos let them blow up their entire school system.

this is already the case at the system/district/individual school level

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
Also special education is a giant money sink with amazing social benefits, so expect states that go full-tilt private to return to the 1950s. They'll basically lock disabled students in rooms and just straight up boot kids who aren't learning quickly out of school entirely.

The real kicker will be when those kids grow up into disfunctional adults with zero means of support (because you've gutted the entirety of your state's social services) and the crime rate that's been gradually decreasing the past 20 years suddenly starts to climb again.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

Also special education is a giant money sink with amazing social benefits, so expect states that go full-tilt private to return to the 1950s. They'll basically lock disabled students in rooms and just straight up boot kids who aren't learning quickly out of school entirely.

The real kicker will be when those kids grow up into disfunctional adults with zero means of support (because you've gutted the entirety of your state's social services) and the crime rate that's been gradually decreasing the past 20 years suddenly starts to climb again.

Also homelessness hits record levels. It's all Trump's plans to destabilize the urban population centers and return everyone to working on farms. Viva the movement.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Uncle Wemus posted:

I work in a public school how hosed am i

turbofucked

so business as usual then

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

i eagerly await our glorious future of education as pyramid scheme

how will it work, though? hire one teacher, that teacher teaches two students, and so on, until the entire nation is a single chain of academic excellence and transfer payments?

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

Also special education is a giant money sink with amazing social benefits, so expect states that go full-tilt private to return to the 1950s. They'll basically lock disabled students in rooms and just straight up boot kids who aren't learning quickly out of school entirely.

The real kicker will be when those kids grow up into disfunctional adults with zero means of support (because you've gutted the entirety of your state's social services) and the crime rate that's been gradually decreasing the past 20 years suddenly starts to climb again.

nah they'll just take the handful who don't require too much direct supervision or resources and everyone else is left to their own devices

which again is something a lot of districts already do

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer

The Muppets On PCP posted:

this is already the case at the system/district/individual school level

Not nearly as much as it could be. Remove title 1, fully privatize the system and lower teacher benefits/gut standards and what we have now looks very egalitarian in comparison. Many places would have a great deal of difficulty simply having a school period, much less one that isn't complete poo poo.

Like a lot of parts of federal government, the lovely gaps in the DOE are really apparent but the things it succeeds at have largely been so ingrained into American society as to become invisible.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Trump's cabinet is terrible, and anyone of them may end up doing immense damage but I think DeVos is in a special spot to cause untold damage to our society. The foundations of democracy are tied to public education, and without it, it's inevitable that we sink into further dysfunction. The saddest thing about her nomination is, it's not a particularly flashy issue, and it's harder to explain that she's a legitimately terrible person like Sessions is, so I really doubt the media, much less so regular Americans, will pay attention to this.

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



I appreciate that the new wave of GOP garbage, represented by people like DeVos and Trump, have dropped just about every facade that still remained.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

remember when he was almost gore's vice president

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:


Michigan Freedom Fund - another project of the DeVos family, this organizaton is broader in scope, promoting "limited government and putting people first. This organization is run by Greg McNeilly. In March 21, 2014, a federal judge struck down the DeVos-funded legislation banning same sex marriage in Michigan. For a narrow window of time, same sex marriage was legal in Michigan, until DeVos-funded AG Bill Schuette found a judge to put an injunction on same sex marriage in the state. During that narrow window, Greg McNeilly married his partner, Douglas Meeks on March 22, 2014.


Yo wtf lmao

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
how hosed are state colleges? i go to one currently and i still have probaly a year left.

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

how hosed are state colleges? i go to one currently and i still have probaly a year left.

you'll be fine, it will take at least a year for most policies to have an impact "on the ground" as it were

it will also vary state-by-state but uh don't keep your hopes up because the general republican attitude towards education is "it's bad because it turns people into democrats"

hope you don't have any young siblings though, lmao

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Nichael posted:

I appreciate that the new wave of GOP garbage, represented by people like DeVos and Trump, have dropped just about every facade that still remained.

thats because trump voters are either too loving stupid or just plain don't care except when you have a D by your name.

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

remember when some republican shitstain (I think in MI, one of devos's cronies) said that children don't have a right to literacy

lmao haha, 10 years from now everywhere outside of a city is going to be a blasted wasteland of ghoulish poverty

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SpaceGoku posted:

you'll be fine, it will take at least a year for most policies to have an impact "on the ground" as it were

it will also vary state-by-state but uh don't keep your hopes up because the general republican attitude towards education is "it's bad because it turns people into democrats"

hope you don't have any young siblings though, lmao

Nope, though my GF has thought about going to college at some point. I should be fine with history/homeland security degree and I live in PA, but our colleges had big strike that went on for few days. so who knows.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Amway is straight up a Pyramid Scheme and the only reason it hasn't been prosecuted as one is because of political money. Also DeVos's brother runs Blackwater. It's like their entire family are Bond villains.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i unironically support state's rights in this administration run by a bunch of out-of-touch billionaires. i'm in NY so screw you, take that poo poo away from the hard-right racists that run most states

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

SpaceGoku posted:

remember when some republican shitstain (I think in MI, one of devos's cronies) said that children don't have a right to literacy

lmao haha, 10 years from now everywhere outside of a city is going to be a blasted wasteland of ghoulish poverty

how will we tell the difference from now

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

PsychoInternetHawk posted:

Also special education is a giant money sink with amazing social benefits, so expect states that go full-tilt private to return to the 1950s. They'll basically lock disabled students in rooms and just straight up boot kids who aren't learning quickly out of school entirely.

The real kicker will be when those kids grow up into disfunctional adults with zero means of support (because you've gutted the entirety of your state's social services) and the crime rate that's been gradually decreasing the past 20 years suddenly starts to climb again.

This is already happening, Trump or not, it's a disgrace and completely disgusting. I'm sure Trump will kick it into mach 10.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Nichael posted:

Trump's cabinet is terrible, and anyone of them may end up doing immense damage but I think DeVos is in a special spot to cause untold damage to our society. The foundations of democracy are tied to public education, and without it, it's inevitable that we sink into further dysfunction. The saddest thing about her nomination is, it's not a particularly flashy issue, and it's harder to explain that she's a legitimately terrible person like Sessions is, so I really doubt the media, much less so regular Americans, will pay attention to this.

Maybe in 8 years when a Kansas middle school valedictorian drops trou and shits on the stage in the middle of his 3 sentence speech, people will start to realize that kid is the brightest they got and their future is even more hosed than they thought before

I can't wait until public schooling stops at like 9th grade for public schools in flyover states for budget cuts. we'll have adults voting for those inflatable wiggling tube guys with a swastika crudely painted on its forehead

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SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

Yinlock posted:

how will we tell the difference from now

I mean like, you might not be able to safely drive from one coast to another unless you are a trucker convoy escorted by highway patrols carrying military hardware

I mean like, imagine FFXV driving at night except instead of huge swole demons it's a hoard of armed starving illiterate children and teenagers at a makeshift roadblock

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