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you could work for an employee owned company instead of just being a member of a union. you won't have to pay union dues. you can cash out by selling your share to other employees and quitting.
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Bloody posted:all labor is labor I don't do labor I just type things and stuff my face with free snacks.
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lampey posted:you could work for an employee owned company instead of just being a member of a union. you won't have to pay union dues. you can cash out by selling your share to other employees and quitting. wtf do you work for REI or Mondragon
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Rex-Goliath posted:i still think the answer for tech is forming professional certifications like accountants or lawyers that's fine for consultants and working small shops but once you're dealing with a large company you need someone to establish just cause dismissal and handling benefits negotiations George posted:is there a union whose dues are actually a significant portion of its members' paycheck? standard rate is two working hours per month go to dues so: no George posted:join the police union so you can be a cybercop with infinite power and zero accountability
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Jan 17, 2017 00:30
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I like the quiet libertarians rating this thread a 1 because union is a dirty word
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Jan 17, 2017 00:55
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El Mero Mero posted:I like the quiet libertarians rating this thread a 1 because union is a dirty word The two extra hours per day they give their employer for free shows they are part of the team
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El Mero Mero posted:quiet libertarians who?
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Jan 17, 2017 01:05
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mods pls name and shame these scabs
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Jan 17, 2017 01:07
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libertarianism is male astrology
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Maximo Roboto posted:wtf do you work for REI wait, wrong REI
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Jan 17, 2017 01:19
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I'm a computer janitor for a school district and our union is terrible.
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Jan 17, 2017 01:23
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eric posted:I'm a computer janitor for a school district and our union is terrible. how much porn do teachers watch
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Bloody posted:libertarianism is male astrology
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funny Star Wars parody posted:can we at least be not classified as engineers so i can get paid OT in California and Michigan real engineers get OT in california 
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mishaq posted:how much porn do teachers watch Probably a ton but no one monitors that.
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Jan 17, 2017 06:29
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The Management posted:itt computer janitors admitting they are blue collar laborers. White Collar vs Blue Collar is class divisive language comrade. We are all Labor under the Capitalists.
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Jan 17, 2017 22:44
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Rex-Goliath posted:wouldn't it be really difficult to fight scabs should push come to shove? with an actual physical factory you can form a picket line but how do you do that when they can just have workers tunnel in from bangalore? if they're hiring cover staff from bangalore with no prior training and parachuting them in the company is already dead like, even the mumbai based subcontractor guys we use say that their own company's bangalore office are poo poo
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Jan 18, 2017 00:24
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fed union wants $70/mo in dues pass
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Jan 18, 2017 00:43
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:fed union wants $70/mo in dues on what salary
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:fed union wants $70/mo in dues Yeah definitely not worth it for a traditional pension!
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Jan 18, 2017 02:46
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that's cheaper than parking lmao
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I was talking to one of our techs at a bar recently: "yeah man I love working here. the hours are great and the pay is probably double what I could get anywhere else. loving hate paying union dues, though, I want to keep that money"
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Bloody posted:I was talking to one of our techs at a bar recently: "yeah man I love working here. the hours are great and the pay is probably double what I could get anywhere else. loving hate paying union dues, though, I want to keep that money" there isn't an  big enough.
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Bloody posted:I was talking to one of our techs at a bar recently: "yeah man I love working here. the hours are great and the pay is probably double what I could get anywhere else. loving hate paying union dues, though, I want to keep that money" 
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Yeah definitely not worth it for a traditional pension!
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Yeah definitely not worth it for a traditional pension! Honestly those traditional pension obligations are being defaulted on or negotiated down these days. They're hardly the sure thing they once were. (they still are better, even after default, than scab scraps though!)
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El Mero Mero posted:Honestly those traditional pension obligations are being defaulted on or negotiated down these days. They're hardly the sure thing they once were. (they still are better, even after default, than scab scraps though!) he's government, tho, so there's a 50/50 chance that his pension will be good for life or will be gone on friday
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Jan 18, 2017 05:27
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El Mero Mero posted:Honestly those traditional pension obligations are being defaulted on or negotiated down these days. They're hardly the sure thing they once were. (they still are better, even after default, than scab scraps though!) but if that happens then you get to gather all your old coworkers together and murder some executives and finance workers and no jury in the land will convict you
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Jan 18, 2017 09:41
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:but if that happens then you get to gather all your old coworkers together and murder some executives and finance workers and no jury in the land will convict you that's great but you're still living in a cardboard box.
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El Mero Mero posted:Honestly those traditional pension obligations are being defaulted on or negotiated down these days. They're hardly the sure thing they once were. (they still are better, even after default, than scab scraps though!) an unfunded pension is the same as no pension
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Jan 18, 2017 15:40
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:on what salary less than the median wage in the city I live in 
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Obviously the network/systems team would be part of the union and would block the scabs from accessing any IT resources. it probably helped that it was a few CJs in an otherwise non-IT union tho
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Bloody posted:unions are good
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Jan 19, 2017 14:32
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unions are essential because America is hosed up
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America, hosed up! Leading the way to the bottom of the barrel yeah!
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i work for a state college / hospital that's currently outsourcing a huge chunk of IT (and getting wrecked by the press by it, deservedly.) The university professional and technical workers union is in a really good spot to swoop us all up they'll outsource the rest of us if it happens but i'd still vote for it just to put the screws to them Endless Mike posted:he's government, tho, so there's a 50/50 chance that his pension will be good for life or will be gone on friday 
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Rex-Goliath posted:wouldn't it be really difficult to fight scabs should push come to shove? with an actual physical factory you can form a picket line but how do you do that when they can just have workers tunnel in from bangalore? solidarity, motherfucker, do you speak it?
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Maximo Roboto posted:wtf do you work for REI or Mondragon the biggest employee-owned firms aren't the weird hippy things that immediately come to mind
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:solidarity, motherfucker, do you speak it? clear plastic over the air inlet of the vpn appliances
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