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Yea it's up to prefferences, a turn based rpg is as different from a rtwp one as a fps like call of duty is from a stealth game like hitman, they just keep getting lumped in the same genre more often hence the comparisons.
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rope kid posted:The people who aren't willing to do basic arithmetic probably aren't likely to even look at a DPS value if we provided it. We heavily modified the DPS value from F3 in F:NV (and provided a separate DAM value). The people who cared about those values looked at them, thought about them, discussed them, and made choices based on them (and their own theories) but there are hundreds of let's play video series out there that show people scrolling past AMRs and brush guns to use lever-action shotguns with buckshot against NCR heavy troopers.
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Jun 12, 2017 09:51
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Just give us a proper modding toolkit (Firaxis' amazing and a good example) and we'll just code it ourselves.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:03
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IMO a training dummy provides the best of both worlds, given that it's: – An actual representation of what's done in game so will take account of any bugs that might not be known in the engine (non-theoretical) – Simple and does the math for the player (no spreadsheets) – Doesn't need to be updated – Fast – Newbie friendly – Can take account of most of the conditional elements in combat providing the stats of the dummy are variable and it can attack you back (under duress, under afflictions etc ...) – Can be implemented in a lore friendly way
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Jun 12, 2017 10:11
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Yeah I like the training dummy as well. Worked well in World of Warcraft. Although something simple would work, like "Estimated DPS vs." and then calculate some rough DPS against various Deflection or whatever the new armor class is. So at a glance when comparing two items you can guesstimate which one is an upgrade (only estimate because this can't take procs like summons or skills like Carnage into account I guess).
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Jun 12, 2017 10:34
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Some itemization chat: https://jesawyer.tumblr.com/post/161718781511/hi-josh-talking-about-the-revised-weaponquote:I designed a unique rapier called Squid’s Grasp. Its description features the history of its original owner, a Príncipi captain named Azio, known as “Calmo” (”squid” in Vailian). The gist of the story is that Azio was cruel and sadistic, feared and hated as much by his own crew as by his enemies. He survived four mutiny attempts and gained a reputation for having eyes in the back of his head and being impossible to capture.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:44
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I hope there's another disappointer, that weapon ruled.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:13
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rope kid posted:The people who aren't willing to do basic arithmetic probably aren't likely to even look at a DPS value if we provided it. We heavily modified the DPS value from F3 in F:NV (and provided a separate DAM value). The people who cared about those values looked at them, thought about them, discussed them, and made choices based on them (and their own theories) but there are hundreds of let's play video series out there that show people scrolling past AMRs and brush guns to use lever-action shotguns with buckshot against NCR heavy troopers. To be fair, that has more to do with the fact that in every video game since the dawn of time shotguns have been badass, and something called a 'brush gun' sounds like you're assaulting your enemies with a dry fart.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:24
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I don't even know what brush guns and AMRs are, I'm sure I was one of those idiots using completely inappropriate weapons in New Vegas
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Jun 13, 2017 06:28
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Phlegmish posted:I don't even know what brush guns and AMRs are, I'm sure I was one of those idiots using completely inappropriate weapons in New Vegas If you weren't wearing a lab coat and using a laser rifle with a critical hit build to disintegrate everything then you were definitely playing it wrong. Mad scientist courier is the best.
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Jun 13, 2017 07:32
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smh if u dont fashion souls every game u play fam
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Jun 13, 2017 14:19
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Uh, fallout nv is played with western themed light armor and a bolt action rifle. All the way through. except for OWB where you are naked and wielding a proton axe like a proper lobotomite. But as soon as you have a chat and reconcile with your brain you go back to being a wasteland cowboy. If you do ncr long enough to get the ranger armor and then turn on them for Mr. House youve basically played the canon version of the story
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Jun 13, 2017 14:40
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The only canon playstyle for Fallout: New Vegas is <insert 4000 word fanfiction about a kind-hearted cannibal who feasts on the heart of Caesar and has unrequited feelings for Arcade Gannon>
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Jun 13, 2017 14:49
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basic hitler posted:Uh, fallout nv is played with western themed light armor and a bolt action rifle. All the way through. except for OWB where you are naked and wielding a proton axe like a proper lobotomite. But as soon as you have a chat and reconcile with your brain you go back to being a wasteland cowboy. If you do ncr long enough to get the ranger armor and then turn on them for Mr. House youve basically played the canon version of the story No, you play it through wearing the Sheriff's coat and hat from Primm while using a revolver.
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Jun 13, 2017 15:16
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God drat, now i have to play new vegas again.
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Jun 13, 2017 15:20
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Not gonna lie, i loving love new vegas.
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Jun 13, 2017 15:46
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Tyranny news is a free patch with NG+, cheapish DLC available now, and bigger DLC available later, BTW.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:40
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Teaser trailer, no release date: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbGDJaWdCgo And there's a quest pack DLC already up called "Tales from the Tiers" for $7.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:45
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I've never actually done Dead Money, Lonesome Road, or Old World Blues all the way through, I really should go back to it and do those,
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Khizan posted:I've never actually done Dead Money, Lonesome Road, or Old World Blues all the way through, I really should go back to it and do those, You really should, the expansions for NV are super good.
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Jun 13, 2017 17:53
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I love New Vegas a lot but I gotta tell you I was only ever able to tolerate Dead Money once. Last time I tried, it actually killed my play-through. It was the first time I'd ever modded it, with a bunch of graphic tweaks, higher-res textures, jsawyer, and all that. I was really having a lot of fun and kind of discovering new things and remembering why I liked the game so much back in 2010. But I got about 20 minutes into dead money and I wanted out immediately, and I had no recent saves to go back to. That was around the time I bought Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 was coming up so I never resumed it. THAT said, if you haven't done it, you should. While I think the gameplay is among the worst in any fallout game, it's not anything that can't be overcome, and it's got a pretty great story, with great characters. Meleeing the undead with a machete and playing Hot & Cold with a bomb collar you can't remove gets pretty loving irritating if you already know what's in store, but if you pretend the Courier fell temporarily into a weird Resident Evil RPG , you can make the best of it and discover some great stories and some of the more interesting lore in the series. Sorry for indulging the F:NV derail, but any thread about Obsidian is owed it.
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Really they should have made it so the game creates a special save that can only he overwritten manually when you go into a DLC adventure, like they patched in for the final battle in the main game. PoE doesn't have that issue because you can go back and forth at will. That said, i think the DLCs are the best part of the game, and this derail is making me sadder than ever that some Windows 10 update or memory problem has rendered New Vegas literally unplayable on my machine 
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Jun 13, 2017 18:13
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Dead Money has some serious issues, but the characters are cool and the horror feel is a nice change of pace from being an unstoppable Wasteland God. Of course, once you figure out just how good the holorifle is and how to deal with the ghost people the horror goes away and you're a deity once more.2house2fly posted:That said, i think the DLCs are the best part of the game, and this derail is making me sadder than ever that some Windows 10 update or memory problem has rendered New Vegas literally unplayable on my machine I have over 270 hours in New Vegas according to Steam, and I still plan to go back someday (when I can get the strength together to put up with ten hours of modding prep). I recommend getting a new computer, solely for playing more New Vegas.
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2house2fly posted:That said, i think the DLCs are the best part of the game, and this derail is making me sadder than ever that some Windows 10 update or memory problem has rendered New Vegas literally unplayable on my machine
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Jun 13, 2017 18:23
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basic hitler posted:western themed light armor and a bolt action rifle 
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Chairchucker posted:Tyranny news is a free patch with NG+, cheapish DLC available now, and bigger DLC available later, BTW. Wicked Them Beats posted:Teaser trailer, no release date: Nice, I had given up hope for anything more than some patches.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:37
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The only way to play New Vegas was as an aggresively hegemonizing swarm of robots as this picture demonstrates.
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I worded that for poo poo and i'm pretty sure I made the idiot mistake of using "bolt-action" as a catchall for "old timey rifle", but it's been a while since i played and I'm barely awake. you basically have to look like this except without the scope on the gun. Your weapon choices are Hunting rifle, Varmint Rifle, or Cowboy Repeater, and the hat is mandatory.  I know it's tough to learn facts like this about your own game, from some jackass named Basic Hitler, but it's true.
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If all you care about is looks you should add the Brush Gun and the Trail Carbine to that list, since they're lever action rifles.
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basic hitler posted:I love New Vegas a lot but I gotta tell you I was only ever able to tolerate Dead Money once. Last time I tried, it actually killed my play-through. It was the first time I'd ever modded it, with a bunch of graphic tweaks, higher-res textures, jsawyer, and all that. I was really having a lot of fun and kind of discovering new things and remembering why I liked the game so much back in 2010. The thing about Dead Money is that it's super polarizing; pretty much everyone either loves it or hates it with few in between. Personally I love pretty much everything about it and it's the highlight of any occasion that I play NV but I can understand why another would dislike it.
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Gobblecoque posted:The thing about Dead Money is that it's super polarizing; pretty much everyone either loves it or hates it with few in between. Personally I love pretty much everything about it and it's the highlight of any occasion that I play NV but I can understand why another would dislike it. Same here- the whole emphasis on survival as opposed to having all your OP guns and stuff was really cool, and while the traps were annoying at first (at least for me) once I got the hang of them they really upped the tension in ways the base game didn't. Now Honest Hearts- man, the main storyline was great, but good God was Zion an utter bore to play through.
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Gobblecoque posted:The thing about Dead Money is that it's super polarizing; pretty much everyone either loves it or hates it with few in between. Personally I love pretty much everything about it and it's the highlight of any occasion that I play NV but I can understand why another would dislike it. I fully believe people should give it a shot and I don't want to dissuade anyone from playing it, but I wanted to give my input as a man who likes to roleplay cowboys who don't know what a bolt action rifle is, in post apocalyptic Nevada. If you play like that, Dead Money is a pretty jarring break from the play style of the rest of the Mojave. Someone warned me that Dead Money introduced a very different play style before I got it, and that warning prepped me for it in a positive way. I'm just not sure I could tolerate playing it again, now that I know the story, but it was worth experiencing.
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My pet hate is Avellone's nonsensical one-way elevator plotlines. There was one in Kotor II (press the button and it swaps two characters over and also teleports the villain back for some reason), and the one in Dead Money was even more ridiculous.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Teaser trailer, no release date: From the release: quote:New characters and new stories await players in Bastard’s Wound, including a closer look at the world of the Beastmen, the fate of a refugee settlement, and all-new companion quests featuring three of Tyranny’s most memorable party members. That's really cool they're adding a brand new ending path for the people siding with Kyros. The new patch has respeccing too now in addition to a pretty substantive new game+ https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/tyranny-patch-notes-1-1-0-0023.1028830/
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Raygereio posted:Did it stop working after the Win 10 Anniversary Update? Update your drivers and check out NVAC on the nexus. I had done all this before and nada, then I tried it again today and it seems to work perfectly. Pleased shrug! E: regarding the NV DLCs, they're very different from the main game and that's partially why I like them; it's like they help to strengthen the setting by defining themselves in relation to it- sort of different antitheses to the Mojave's thesis, you could say. It helps that (Honest Hearts excepted) they're all incredibly hostile places and you'll avert an existential threat to the Mojave in each one, reinforcing the relative friendliness of the Mojave as the Courier's home. Even Zion, beautiful as it is, is somewhere you come home from. 2house2fly fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Scorchy posted:From the release: The new game + stuff actually sounds pretty neat: quote:Item Importing Slowly build up your character's gear and power from one new game to the next.
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2house2fly posted:I had done all this before and nada, then I tried it again today and it seems to work perfectly. Pleased shrug! And at the same time they all reinforce the main theme of the game, which is that to move forward you have to learn to let go of the past.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:the main theme of the game, which is that to move forward you have to learn to let go of the past. Actually you will find the main theme is that shooting 80's punk rockers with a levergun never gets old, even years later.
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bongwizzard posted:Actually you will find the main theme is that shooting 80's punk rockers with a levergun never gets old, even years later. Or is that the moral?
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bongwizzard posted:Actually you will find the main theme is that shooting 80's punk rockers with a levergun never gets old, even years later. The main theme is that I've got spurs that jingle jangle jingle
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