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While we can never go back, life is meant to be lived and your place in this world does have significance, even if you yourself cannot see it. Mae'll be fine and so will we.
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Feb 21, 2020 20:13
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I really love this game and its characters. Even this one tweet made me very happy to see.
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Feb 21, 2020 20:19
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I'm sure this has been posted before, but want to read commentary on NitW from a liberal who probably thinks that the poor family in Parasite were the villains? 'Cause here's a Galaxy brain of a take.
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Samovar posted:I'm sure this has been posted before, but want to read commentary on NitW from a liberal who probably thinks that the poor family in Parasite were the villains? 'Cause here's a Galaxy brain of a take. I think she was a little too close to the material to be able to have an objective take on it. Also, knowing how incredibly leftist Scott Benson is, this just reminds me of how good the leftist world is at being its own worst enemy and deciding that the one that needs destroying is the closest ally at hand. Like, I think BootlegGirl's big problem is that the game doesn't show gender and orientation based bigotry, but I think Scott felt he wasn't the best person to show that?
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Feb 24, 2020 12:59
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This stinkpiece was written by someone who looks at one of those United States of Canada memes that has blue states join Canada and applauds. Just mind boggling classism and bigotry here from someone claiming to do otherwise. Double ice backfire.
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Feb 24, 2020 17:29
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Honestly it just seems like someone who just missed the point? She's so caught up in her image of small-town America is small-minded bigots (which, to be fair, is pretty much true) that she missed the game's whole thrust of setting up a world in which bigotry wasn't a factor to better get at the real problem of capitalism. So when the game reached its climax of "the middle class sacrifice the underclass out of a blind faith in The Economy" she read it as "white people attack minorities out of fear" because she's so blind to the class struggle.
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Feb 24, 2020 20:23
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Sep 13, 2020 05:55
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Incelshok Na posted:1 4 1 1 4 2 1 What?
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Sep 13, 2020 06:00
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Has there been any news on the physical version of this game?
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Sep 13, 2020 06:04
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Larryb posted:What? The hook on die anywhere else.
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Sep 13, 2020 07:27
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Kazy posted:Has there been any news on the physical version of this game? Unfortunately due to the controversy/death involving one of the guys that worked on the game it doesn’t seem likely they’re going to do much of anything with it now (we can probably kiss that supplemental game they were talking about a while back goodbye as well along with any hope of a sequel). I’d be happy to be proven wrong though.
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Sep 13, 2020 14:22
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They announced a new project in June bug it's not NitW related. Definitely feels like they want to leave NitW alone given everything, yeah.
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Sep 13, 2020 14:32
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Mokinokaro posted:They announced a new project in June bug it's not NitW related. I hadn’t heard about that, do we know anything about this new project yet?
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Sep 13, 2020 14:57
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Sadly no. It's being made by a new studio the Bensons founded. https://twitter.com/theglorysociety/status/1272529409111621634?s=19
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Sep 13, 2020 15:07
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They did recently add Steam trading cards, though. Not sure what to make of that.
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Larryb posted:Unfortunately due to the controversy/death involving one of the guys that worked on the game it doesn’t seem likely they’re going to do much of anything with it now (we can probably kiss that supplemental game they were talking about a while back goodbye as well along with any hope of a sequel). I’d be happy to be proven wrong though. I hadn't heard about this, what happened? I'm guessing a sad mentally unwell person checked out because that would certainly be on-brand for what was presented in the game.
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Incelshok Na posted:I hadn't heard about this, what happened? I'm guessing a sad mentally unwell person checked out because that would certainly be on-brand for what was presented in the game. Go back to page 37 and start reading from there. It follows the whole saga.
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Incelshok Na posted:I hadn't heard about this, what happened? I'm guessing a sad mentally unwell person checked out because that would certainly be on-brand for what was presented in the game. Here’s the short version at least: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Holowka
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Sep 13, 2020 17:28
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Geemer posted:They did recently add Steam trading cards, though. Not sure what to make of that.
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Master Twig posted:Go back to page 37 and start reading from there. It follows the whole saga. Well... this sucks.
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Sep 13, 2020 18:32
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It's too bad they turned down the TV/movie deals. This "game" inasmuch as it is a "game" would work much better as either a one-shot TV show (12 30 min episodes could cover the story with minimal fat-cutting and let Mae be friends with Bea and Gregg. A movie would be a lot fat-cutting but could still be solid. Given the minimal and often incongruous "game" elements to the "game" it feels like that is what it should have been anyway.
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Sep 13, 2020 23:27
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I enjoyed the "game" and would've been less interested/not at all interested if it was a "tv show" or "movie"
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Sep 13, 2020 23:32
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I'm fine with there being no other media on the game. The game is perfect as it is, and doesn't need any other adaptations. There's just no way it would live up to the story told in the game.
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Incelshok Na posted:It's too bad they turned down the TV/movie deals. This "game" inasmuch as it is a "game" would work much better as either a one-shot TV show (12 30 min episodes could cover the story with minimal fat-cutting and let Mae be friends with Bea and Gregg. in case anyone missed this the first time around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-gwpATLp4 it would make for a great series for teenagers / young adults
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I do wish there had been a way to easily jump back and replay different possible hang-outs, though. I only went with Bea and missed out on Gregg and didn't want to play through the whole game again. Also I played at launch and I think they may have added extra scenes in patches which I never bothered to watch... Still, very good one playthrough, though.
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Sep 13, 2020 23:37
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Macaluso posted:I enjoyed the "game" and would've been less interested/not at all interested if it was a "tv show" or "movie" Why?
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Sep 13, 2020 23:47
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PIZZA.BAT posted:in case anyone missed this the first time around: Now that's what I'm talking about!
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Sep 13, 2020 23:50
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The interactivity is quite a lot of the fun. What Mae chooses to do is fundamental to the plot. Fixing those choices in a canonical video would not add much except convenience I could see a different story set in the same world as an animation or something. The art style is on point
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Sep 13, 2020 23:53
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Malcolm XML posted:The interactivity is quite a lot of the fun. What Mae chooses to do is fundamental to the plot. Fixing those choices in a canonical video would not add much except convenience I felt railroaded by the choices, they were either inconsequential or just a way to squeeze more hours out of the playtime for a better $/hr ratio. If you want to tell a linear story: tell a linear story. TV and movies do that well. The strength of gaming is that you always have a choice, you can always choose.
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i like the pacing of walking through the town on my own and exploring and checking in with the npcs tv could get a similar tone sure but it’s a fundamentally different experience like, the payoff for selmers feels a lot more meaningful when you’ve consciously been making the time to talk to her every day even though it’s optional
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Sep 14, 2020 00:45
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NITW is a game that I could actually envision translating pretty well to a TV or web series. Some adaptations would have to be made but the story structure and character interactions could largely remain intact.
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Sep 14, 2020 00:47
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As it stands right now, it's not quite a game it's not quite a comic book. You don't quite get completely what you would with either but you get a good experience and it comes with an amazing soundtrack.
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Sep 14, 2020 00:59
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NitW leans into a lot of really quite microscopic game techniques more than it does into any kind of "game narrative" technique; it lets you choose things, but largely as either or both a source of flavour or to use the whole notion of choosing a response as part of some other fixed narrative. The most memorable and illustrative example of the latter technique is the scene where Bea is driving Mae home from the party in the woods, and Mae is drunk, and the dialogue you can choose from her is apologetic and self-aware but what she actually says is incoherent babbling that only makes Bea madder. Like was said before a lot of the payoffs in the game are culminations of things you have to continuously choose to engage with throughout each playthrough, and these are the most conventionally game-narrative-y plot threads in the game insofar as they can reach or not reach that resolution depending on your action, even when the plot threads themselves are still linear and fixed. A step further back, the game also loves to contrast Mae's free-roaming with Bea and Gregg's complete lack of freedom, which is the kind of juxtaposition that only really works in a game. There's no particular reason you couldn't tell a more or less identical story in a linear medium, none of the game-y flourishes NitW has are really essential to what makes its plot and themes work, but you'd need to make tiny changes to everything, and it would wind up feeling noticeably different in structure, pacing, mood, and other such ways.
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it's got a triple-jump, it's a game
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Incelshok Na posted:Why? Because I want to play a video game
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film, TV, theatre all have their own techniques to add flourishes to a work. I don't think the proposed adaptations are e.g. a single camera pointed at a blank soundstage for 10x45mins straight. NitW is 'just' interactive rather than being formally, ludologically, "a game"
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Fedule posted:NitW leans into a lot of really quite microscopic game techniques more than it does into any kind of "game narrative" technique; it lets you choose things, but largely as either or both a source of flavour or to use the whole notion of choosing a response as part of some other fixed narrative. The most memorable and illustrative example of the latter technique is the scene where Bea is driving Mae home from the party in the woods, and Mae is drunk, and the dialogue you can choose from her is apologetic and self-aware but what she actually says is incoherent babbling that only makes Bea madder. Like was said before a lot of the payoffs in the game are culminations of things you have to continuously choose to engage with throughout each playthrough, and these are the most conventionally game-narrative-y plot threads in the game insofar as they can reach or not reach that resolution depending on your action, even when the plot threads themselves are still linear and fixed. A step further back, the game also loves to contrast Mae's free-roaming with Bea and Gregg's complete lack of freedom, which is the kind of juxtaposition that only really works in a game. 
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Fedule posted:There's no particular reason you couldn't tell a more or less identical story in a linear medium, none of the game-y flourishes NitW has are really essential to what makes its plot and themes work, but you'd need to make tiny changes to everything, and it would wind up feeling noticeably different in structure, pacing, mood, and other such ways. I agree games are a different medium so, yeah, changes would have to be made. But I feel that a more controlled medium would allow for a better structure, pacing and mood for the story being told. I almost stopped playing the game because the first jumping puzzle was dumb and I don't particularly care for jumping puzzles. That would have been a shame.
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Incelshok Na posted:I felt railroaded by the choices, they were either inconsequential or just a way to squeeze more hours out of the playtime for a better $/hr ratio. If you want to tell a linear story: tell a linear story. TV and movies do that well. The strength of gaming is that you always have a choice, you can always choose. You literally get to choose lots of things in NITW. Who to hang out with, what to say to them, little side missions and such. You just don't get to choose the overarching plot, because it's about your relationship to a world forced upon you. The choices aren't inconsequential, they are just character-driven not narrative-driven for the most part. They give you a window in Mae's mind and draw you into her worldview. The game is a linear story about complex people and the choices develop and explore that complexity. Also, weirdly hostile take assuming someone added dialogue options for "better $/hr ratio". If you know anything about the devs, you know that's absurd.
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