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There's an idea. Horror movie turns out to be normal people caught in a violent superhero movie.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:45
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Schubalts posted:There's an idea. Horror movie turns out to be normal people caught in a violent superhero movie. Logan from Eriq LaSalle's perspective.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:58
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Snowman_McK posted:Also that the clone isn't really a big picture dude. Richard Grant is the only guy who can control him, and he only goes after Logan because he's told Logan killed Grant. There's a good chance that if Logan can hold him off long enough, the clone will just forget about everyone else after killing him and just revert to being completely feral. Couldn't he track them by scent? They'd be fresh, one's even bleeding already, and I could see him running down at least one or two before getting distracted. Although the clone doesn't heal properly without that green serum. He spent the entire night hanging from a fence without regenerating his missing eye until he got an injection. All Logan has to do is wound him enough to slow him down, and then he won't be chasing anyone.
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Jun 10, 2017 06:34
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EKDS5k posted:Couldn't he track them by scent? They'd be fresh, one's even bleeding already, and I could see him running down at least one or two before getting distracted. Regardless of that, Logan may be able to hold him off long enough to save at least some of the kids. If they all just stay there and try to fight together they all may die, which is exactly what would have happened without that Adamantium bullet. The entire reason Logan is there is to sacrifice himself, he took a lethal dose of the healing juice knowing that he was going to trade his life for theirs, all of that is pointless if they just stay and die alongside him.
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Jun 10, 2017 15:52
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Canada seems to be a safe space for mutants (hence them trying to get there), and they have Alpha Flight  who always show up when wolverine tries to cross the border, they're pretty good and reliable.Also James and Heather from Alpha Flight nursed Wolverine back to sanity after he first escaped Weapon X, maybe they can do it again with the clone? (assuming he's not dead, a bullet to the brain should eventually heal, and maybe the brain damage would disrupt his Weapon X programming?) (also it's like poetry so this is now cannon) edit: An interesting side product of the revelation at the end wherethey ended mutants from ever being born by putting stuff in the food & water, they could have shown some adverse reactions in the children of the last 25 years - where there is no genetic drift, have the kids looking exactly like their parents, siblings looking exactly the same, stuff like that. There's no real space for it in the movie but removing mutation from reproduction would have some weird and hosed up negative effects. Goffer fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jun 11, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 23:58
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Well I mean, in the X-Men films 'mutations' are a thing caused by the x-gene, which is separate from natural genetic drift.
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Jun 11, 2017 09:22
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Also, kids don't look different from their parents or siblings because of mutations or genetic drift. The negative effects would be, like, reduced adaptability over the course of many, many generations. Not that the whole X-Men mutations thing makes any sense on a practical level at all. More importantly, you don't want a bunch of identical kids of whatever because one of the approaches of the movie is to show a very familiarly hosed-up world, and introducing a random problem with odd-looking kids would distract from that.
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Jun 11, 2017 18:57
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EKDS5k posted:Couldn't he track them by scent? They'd be fresh, one's even bleeding already, and I could see him running down at least one or two before getting distracted. Oh, he could have, definitely. I'm just thinking that maybe he wouldn't. He seemed, by that point, pretty distractable.
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Jun 12, 2017 00:29
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:"kek" is a World of Warcraft reference that started as a nod to the Korean gamers the former was appropriated from before taking on a life of its own Where did you hear that loving stupidity? "Kek" in WOW comes from the cross faction comms ban. If you typed in a Horde chat as Alliance or vice versa your words would be scrambled by a substitution cypher. In the Horde to Alliance cypher "kek" translates to "lol".
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Jun 14, 2017 16:17
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pretty sure korean laugh was hukhukhuk
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Jun 14, 2017 16:29
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Jedit posted:Where did you hear that loving stupidity? "Kek" in WOW comes from the cross faction comms ban. If you typed in a Horde chat as Alliance or vice versa your words would be scrambled by a substitution cypher. In the Horde to Alliance cypher "kek" translates to "lol". It is both. People were spamming "kek" in the Starcraft Brood War days because of some connection to the Korean gaming community that eludes me, and it was a WoW word filter. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 17:32
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I was going to say, I remember seeing a ton of "kekekekekeke zerg rush" playing StarCraft games on Battle.net years ago.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:47
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I remember Koreans using ㅎㅎㅎ (hehehe without the vowels) and ㅋㅋㅋ (kekeke without vowels) online during the Starcraft days. Since Starcraft was the first major exposure between large groups of western and Korean gamers, I assume it was the Bering Strait by which kekekek entered into the English gaming vocabulary.
Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 21:35
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Jedit posted:Where did you hear that loving stupidity? "Kek" in WOW comes from the cross faction comms ban. If you typed in a Horde chat as Alliance or vice versa your words would be scrambled by a substitution cypher. In the Horde to Alliance cypher "kek" translates to "lol". ...yeah, and they made the cypher for "lol" "kek" deliberately. What we said isn't mutually exclusive.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:35
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Basebf555 posted:Regardless of that, Logan may be able to hold him off long enough to save at least some of the kids. If they all just stay there and try to fight together they all may die, which is exactly what would have happened without that Adamantium bullet. The entire reason Logan is there is to sacrifice himself, he took a lethal dose of the healing juice knowing that he was going to trade his life for theirs, all of that is pointless if they just stay and die alongside him. Oh I get all that, it just stuck out to me that throughout the entire movie Logan's (and his derivatives) heightened senses weren't mentioned at all. I know his eyesight was failing, and it's not like I expected them to shoehorn it in if the movie works without it, just that I noticed the absence. Also I thought that the juice was more like a generic "amp up your normal powers" kind of serum? In Logan's case this made his healing factor useful again but one of the other kids mentions that they were given it before fighting to make them stronger.
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Jun 25, 2017 08:36
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The Juice is a generic Amp Up your normal powers, but in particular what it does to Logan ends up making him die faster because his problem is that his extreme regeneration actually did have a point at which it would stop working, like normal cellular regeneration does. Logan's problem in the movie is that his regeneration is actually just failing because he's been living too long and the Adamantium Skeleton Poisoning him taxed it even further. A Juice that forces his regeneration to act faster heals him like he used to but leaves his powers even more drained. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Aug 8, 2017 |
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Aug 8, 2017 10:35
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Way to thread necro, though at least it is productive. One consistent, somewhat unspoken aspect of the movies is that mutant powers are basically treated as a discrete, personal 'trait' like an organ or hair colour that can be manipulated, suppressed or enhanced by plot devices or other mutant powers. Days of Future past even shows those traits can be reverse-engineered and incorporated into technology with sufficient work, with terrifying results, and of course not even getting into the mutant kids whose powers are apparently based on specific people, to the point of giving Laura a refined version of Wolverine's adamantium treatment. There's a kind of alchemical theme to the movies; some mutants like Magneto consider themselves superior, some humans (and some mutants) basically agree and want to control, refine and 'perfect' the mutant gene, finding perfection within the body and expressing it in a living thing. (or a machine)
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Aug 8, 2017 11:51
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geeves posted:I like when X24 carries Lara off she's screaming "Dad". X24 was really the weird uncle wasnt he?
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Aug 20, 2017 12:00
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Schubalts posted:There's an idea. Horror movie turns out to be normal people caught in a violent superhero movie. That's Batman V Superman
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Aug 22, 2017 00:27
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I had a lot of fun watching this movie. The nascar paced plot line, the relatable characters with their funny accents and the overall hillbilly setting. And I especially liked the happy ending with the subtle wink at a part two.
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Aug 22, 2017 03:29
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friendo posted:I had a lot of fun watching this movie. The nascar paced plot line, the relatable characters with their funny accents and the overall hillbilly setting. And I especially liked the happy ending with the subtle wink at a part two. Yeah, just got out and really enjoyed it. Very light, but always amusing. The stacked cast definitely helped.
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Aug 22, 2017 05:57
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Don't forget the amazing direction and visuals!
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Aug 22, 2017 06:06
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But I thought Famke Janssen killed Professor Eggs
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Aug 22, 2017 07:14
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KinkyJohn posted:But I thought Famke Janssen killed Professor Eggs Days of Future Past changed the timeline. It ends with Future Wolverine chilling with Future Famke at the school. Also, the following line from Logan gives them an excuse to ignore continuity: "You do know they're all bullshit, right? Maybe a quarter of it happened, and not like this. In the real world, people die, and no self-promoting rear end in a top hat in a loving leotard can stop this."
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Aug 22, 2017 07:46
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Did they ever explain how prof came back after x3 for dofp?
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Aug 22, 2017 19:31
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Tiriganiaq posted:Did they ever explain how prof came back after x3 for dofp? Yeah, at the end of X3 he wakes up in some coma guy's body.
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Aug 22, 2017 19:32
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Don't forget the amazing direction and visuals! i certainly haven't forgotten your proclivity towards devouring your own poo poo
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Aug 22, 2017 19:37
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah, at the end of X3 he wakes up in some coma guy's body. And at the end of wolverine 2, they setup dofp. Kind of.
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Aug 22, 2017 21:19
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I finally watched this a few weeks ago and it's definitely a top 3 superhero movie, easily the best film related to the X-Franchise.
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Aug 22, 2017 21:21
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i certainly haven't forgotten your proclivity towards devouring your own poo poo I can't believe you developed an internet grudge over me posting screen captures of Logan. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 22, 2017 21:43
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I can't believe you developed an internet grudge over me posting screen captures of Logan. You sweet summer child. He's already put a contract out on you.
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Aug 22, 2017 21:47
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duz posted:And at the end of wolverine 2, they setup dofp. Kind of. They shot that when they were filming DoFP, as I recall, and Kinberg handwaved it away in interviews by saying that the body Xavier's mind transferred to in The Last Stand was his twin brother's or some poo poo.
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Aug 22, 2017 21:47
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I can't believe you developed an internet grudge over me posting screen captures of Logan. no, I developed an internet grudge over you consistently being an insufferable rear end in a top hat in every thread you post in I was seriously gonna let this poo poo go until I realized it's not this movie specifically you have beef with, but rather you just feel innately compelled to poo poo up threads about anything related to the dreaded NEEEEEERDS (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 22, 2017 22:38
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Just saw this again on the small screen. Still a very good movie that I like a lot. I really love the 'cyberpunk in a small town' setting and would love more movies like that. Not every gritty future has to be set in a megacity. Especially because lovely suburbs are looking a hell of a lot more likely at this point given urban development. Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 22, 2017 23:46
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I need to find a movie I really dislike so I can post in a thread about how much I dislike it.
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Aug 23, 2017 02:19
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UmOk posted:I need to find a movie I really dislike so I can post in a thread about how much I dislike it. This is more or less why I'm on the internet, so I'm not going to judge, I just wish Lamps was better at it.
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Aug 23, 2017 02:29
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Snowman_McK posted:This is more or less why I'm on the internet, so I'm not going to judge, I just wish Lamps was better at it. https://youtu.be/NI7As3rOogo?t=8s
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Aug 23, 2017 02:40
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:no, I developed an internet grudge over you consistently being an insufferable rear end in a top hat in every thread you post in In this thread goons have argued that - Wolverine is a modern equivalent to Gilgamesh, Odysseus, and Jesus Christ - history, as an object of study, is inferior to superhero stories - it's profound how Wolverine used a gun for the first time in this movie (it's not the first movie where he's used a gun) And that's still the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. Nice meltdown.
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Aug 23, 2017 08:06
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me, broke: it is okay to enjoy things you, woke: actually enjoying things is bad if they are made for nerds
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Aug 23, 2017 08:13
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lol at how people have given up on defending in Logan on terms of its quality as cinema
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Aug 23, 2017 08:31
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