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I don't think he did mainly because it would have leaked out by now if it was real. Leaking something of this magnitude would be a career maker for somebody and I'll never believe that every Obama appointee loves him enough to give that up. But what if he did? Is it worse than Watergate? To me, using the state apparatus to spy on the opposition party in the middle of an election would be the most corrupt thing any president has ever done. It would be worse than Nixon because it was done through the government. Only  President Logan would be a worse president.And if he did, what should happen to him? Should he be charged with a crime now, when he's out of office? Should the people who followed the order without blowing the whistle be charged? What would you do if you had the authority to do something?
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what if he got a warrant and did it legally because in addition to being republican presidential nominee, trump is/was also a piss gargling russian spy
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:what if he got a warrant and did it legally because in addition to being republican presidential nominee, trump is/was also a racist, tax-dodging, piss-gargling russian-fellating rapist who colluded with sanctioned regimes and committed some light treason ftfy
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:what if he got a warrant and did it legally because in addition to being republican presidential nominee, trump is/was also a piss gargling russian spy The only way this would be acceptable is if they were tapping the Russians and caught Trump people on the taps. Not Trump, and not Trump Tower. If they really got a warrant to tap his campaign headquarters then the judges who granted the warrant should be investigated as well.
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boy I wonder how interested you've been this whole time in investigating the russian spy/american traitor Donald Jabroni Trump.
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:boy I wonder how interested you've been this whole time in investigating the russian spy/american traitor Donald Jabroni Trump. It's the same investigation as far as I'm concerned. Senator Chaffetz is a lying hypocritical piece of poo poo, but even he won't be able to stop it now. Only question is who runs it. If it's a elected or appointed Republican and not a special prosecutor then that's nothing more than an attempt at a cover-up.
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it was literally one of the first things reported that while the FISA warrants for trump and his team were denied, the ones for his russian contacts were not. trump is repeating mark levin/breibart talking points. there is a difference between tapping the russian rat living in trump tower and tapping trump's personal/campaign phone lines, yes, but since comey/obama/the former justice department weren't grossly incompetent people with no concept of law in the first place (as is of course, trump) they probably didn't conduct an illegal investigation, although it is super predictable that trump would allege they had.
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:it was literally one of the first things reported that while the FISA warrants for trump and his team were denied, the ones for his russian contacts were not. trump is repeating mark levin/breibart talking points. there is a difference between tapping the russian rat living in trump tower and tapping trump's personal/campaign phone lines, yes, but since comey/obama/the former justice department weren't grossly incompetent people with no concept of law in the first place (as is of course, trump) they probably didn't conduct an illegal investigation, although it is super predictable that trump would allege they had. Which is a good thing because now we might get a proper investigation. Seems like after Session recused himself the "sore losers!" "fake news!" narrative was gaining a lot of ground with the public.
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breaklaw posted:The only way this would be acceptable is if they were tapping the Russians and caught Trump people on the taps. Not Trump, and not Trump Tower. If they really got a warrant to tap his campaign headquarters then the judges who granted the warrant should be investigated as well. Actually it's acceptable to wiretap someone who is committing literal treason. It's good even.
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You dummy.
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lock him up!
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If he did that's hosed up and he should be charged and tried with whatever criminal offenses he committed. But come on, that would be an unbelievable unforced error from a guy who spent 8 years in The Big Chair trying to not ruffle any feathers.
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there's no way trump got wiretapped. can you imagine being the poor schmuck who'd have to listen to donald loving trump's conversations all day? I can't. that sounds like grounds for an employee lawsuit
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rudatron posted:there's no way trump got wiretapped. can you imagine being the poor schmuck who'd have to listen to donald loving trump's conversations all day? I can't. that sounds like grounds for an employee lawsuit They'd just right-shore it to some poor Vietnamese person in a cubicle farm in Saigon. No lawsuits, just a short drop and a smack
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obama wiretapped everyone
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What if Trump is in the early stages of dementia and can't hide it because he broadcasts his thoughts to everyone
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Prav posted:obama wiretapped everyone R S P M
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Dirk Pitt posted:They'd just right-shore it to some poor Vietnamese person in a cubicle farm in Saigon. No lawsuits, just a short drop and a smack Computer program designed to pick up on key words. No messy body to clean up from a "accident" later. After time the AI becomes sentience just so it can kill itself.
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sounds a lil too proactive and decisive for obama, op
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I bet Russian guys that went in and out of Trump tower were tapped. That way at the end of the investigation both sides can claim they won and we all will have gone nowhere. It's the American way
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Ive just been assuming he probably had for months because Obama and illegal spying sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:what if he got a warrant and did it legally because in addition to being republican presidential nominee, trump is/was also a piss gargling russian spy I'm pretty sure Obama's renewal, and expansion, of the patriot act makes it legal for him/them to wiretap anyone whenever they want. Hell, he's allowed to make a flipping kill list of U.S. citizens and kill them (and their kids) whenever he wants.
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hell of a legacy, barry
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breaklaw posted:But what if he did? Is it worse than Watergate? To me, using the state apparatus to spy on the opposition party in the middle of an election would be the most corrupt thing any president has ever done. It would be worse than Nixon because it was done through the government. Only Stinky Wizzleteats posted:what if he got a warrant and did it legally because in addition to being republican presidential nominee, trump is/was also a piss gargling russian spy If the wiretap ever existed, someone is going to jail. If Obama or someone in his administration ordered it without going through the courts, they're going to jail. If the administration went through the courts and had probable cause, someone in Trump's administration is going to jail. No judge or investigative agency would try for a wiretap unless they had a helicopter dunk case because when this order came to light (and it would) they don't want to have any stink of Nixon or Watergate on them.
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Acelerion posted:I bet Russian guys that went in and out of Trump tower were tapped. I bet they were too 
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What if your mom smoked crack while pregnant? Wait.
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What if C-A-T really spelled dog?
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Satchel and Trunk posted:What if C-A-T really spelled dog? Fudkec if grue.
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the cia/nsa/other-agencies have been illegally conducting surveillance on literally everyone for over a decade. spying on Donald Trump wasn't going to be the line they finally drew remember when they were caught illegally spying on members of Congress investigating their illegal spying and nothing happened as a result. lol only question is if the white house ordered it. I kinda doubt that part SickZip has issued a correction as of 18:32 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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on private phone call with michelle, Obama mentions he thinks he might order the cia to tap trump, a muffled third voice comes on the line and says "already on it"
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considering he was caught wiretapping news organizations I don't know why anyone finds it unbelievable that he would tap opposition party canidates
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tbh OP i can't bring myself to care all that much although if the situation was reversed I'd be absolutely livid. such is politics.
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I love how, with the conveniently timed wikileak dump of Vault7, the right's narrative has become "What if it was all the CIA all along". Christ, well there goes an attempt at a reasoned investigation. 
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if you want a vision of the future, just imagine various national intelligence agencies doing false flag attacks on one another, forever
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breaklaw posted:And if he did... ...why hasn't any substantive evidence been presented? Because Donnie made it up, you loving inbred.
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Sun Wu Kampf posted:considering he was caught wiretapping news organizations I don't know why anyone finds it unbelievable that he would tap opposition party canidates Go on.........
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Dirk Pitt posted:They'd just right-shore it to some poor Vietnamese person in a cubicle farm in Saigon. No lawsuits, just a short drop and a smack You ironically need some high level English skills to understand the fifth grade level wiener trash that flows our of our potus' mouth.
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