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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Are we X-COM? Do we pick a base location? Yes. Though facilities wise it'll be pretty close to the same. The only variables will be distance to the AOO and how close the hostiles might be. The trade off being if you're close you can accomplish more missions but you'll probably need a better SAM system.
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Please do not sink the Queen Victoria, Hired Goons.
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Yooper posted:Yes. Though facilities wise it'll be pretty close to the same. The only variables will be distance to the AOO and how close the hostiles might be. The trade off being if you're close you can accomplish more missions but you'll probably need a better SAM system. Antarctica!
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Please do not sink the Queen Victoria, Hired Goons. The way this world is looking, I'd say we'd be more likely to buy the Queen Victoria in a few operations!
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 Two announcements. 1. Based on popular vote we are now known as Hired Goons. Should this operation become bankrupt we will reorganize as Neutrality Assured PMC. Goons, bad with money? No way. Never happen. 2. Klaus and Pedersen has been chosen as the supplier.  A representative from the firm was contacted in Stockholm and will release an audio statement tomorrow. In the meantime I'm Google Translating the crazy mish-mash of German, Swedish, and French in order to figure out what exactly is coming with these loving jets. The other firms are disappointed however they still will offer procurement when we're not in theater. So if you're holding out for a F-105 Thunderchief, we might be able to make it happen. Statement tomorrow. Weapons inventory to follow. Then Mission selection. Once we're on our way to the mission we can look at hiring some ground people. quote:$140,000,000 Remaining
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Will we be able to go full Ace combat and have an airborne aircraft carrier?
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warhammer651 posted:Will we be able to go full Ace combat and have an airborne aircraft carrier? I'm not sure that's modeled in the current game. So no.
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Yooper posted:I'm not sure that's modeled in the current game. So no. Could you kitbash one off a real-world plane that used parasite fighters, a-la B-36 FICON?
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Would it be possible to order a F104, specifically a F104G (G for Germany).
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I thought the G stood for ground, it's primary operational envelope.
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Pretty certain if we needed surface-to-surface missiles, we could just buy a bunch of scuds.
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Triple A posted:Pretty certain if we needed surface-to-surface missiles, we could just buy a bunch of scuds. Starfighters also double as an expedient means of firing and vetting personnel. Get a full squadron to train incoming pilots on.
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warhammer651 posted:Starfighters also double as an expedient means of firing and vetting personnel. Get a full squadron to train incoming pilots on. They might be a bit more INCOMING! than they expected. 
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Davin Valkri posted:Could you kitbash one off a real-world plane that used parasite fighters, a-la B-36 FICON? Maybe? I'm not sure. We'll have to see what the future holds. Stago Lego posted:Would it be possible to order a F104, specifically a F104G (G for Germany). Maybe? At the moment there are 10 units in flying condition in private hands. Though Boris says he might have a line on a few that were retired from the Turkish Air Force in the late 1970's. Remind me next time we hit procurement.
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Yooper posted:Maybe? At the moment there are 10 units in flying condition in private hands. Though Boris says he might have a line on a few that were retired from the Turkish Air Force in the late 1970's. Remind me next time we hit procurement. Alright! Hopefully I'll live long enough. It is really one of my favorite planes. Q_res posted:I thought the G stood for ground, it's primary operational envelope. It was more a reference to an music album.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Can we get Mirages Like a Mirage Panthera? There's a shitload of variants in the database.
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 In comparison on operating costs the SU-30 has a cost of near $30k an hour. The F-16 ranges up from $11k to $20k. Our operating cost will vary depending on the environment. Saab has very detailed information for Swedish operating costs at modern airfields. If we're deployed to a rural cow field then things will cost more.  Look at all that money! Hooray! On the downside this poo poo is going to go fast. As you'll see in a moment, a full flight of Meteor missiles can cost us $8 mil.  The planes are currently sitting at an ex US Air Force airfield.  And this is where modern combat becomes expensive. Luckily we can define our Weapons Release Authorization to keep a jet from firing all of it's $1.75 mil missiles at an unknown Cessna. Or we can play with manual release if we want to get really specific.  Our initial inventory is quite nice. When Klaus and Petersen said a full shipment of weaponry they meant it. Unfortunately the Durandals didn't clear German customs and have disappeared into some quasi EU/NATO blackhole of authorizations. For whatever reason they're fine with a plane load of bombs but one that can penetrate a runway makes them nervous. Who the gently caress knows. It's looking like we'll have two theaters of operation right now. More on this to come later. I'm also putting together some resumes for our experts, Jack Abramof, Jimmy the Juggalo, and Zack "The Animal" Economopolous.
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Put me in a fighter plane please, callsign Nails.
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Yooper posted:Unfortunately the Durandals didn't clear German customs and have disappeared into some quasi EU/NATO blackhole of authorizations Probably a good thing. Durandal delivery is one step above a suicide mission.
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I'm going to claim one of the SK60B close air support craft. Call sign Survivor.
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Mar 31, 2017 03:23
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I'm game! I'll be callsign Peanut
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Mar 31, 2017 03:57
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I'd like to claim the AWACS if no one had yet, callsign Skyeye
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I'm up for a good dorfing. Anything without guns, callsign Socks 'cause I'm never boots on ground.
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Any chance of a bomber, or A-10? Callsign Arcee please.
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assuming our AWACS plane isn't already taken I will take it with the call-sign loud mouth
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Stick me in something boring with the callsign Vector.
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Ratoslov posted:Stick me in something boring with the callsign Vector. We should have probably coordinated to give ourselves callsigns like Over, Under, Vector, Vampire, Bearing, Bandit, Bogey, and so on.
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gradenko_2000 posted:We should have probably coordinated to give ourselves callsigns like Over, Under, Vector, Vampire, Bearing, Bandit, Bogey, and so on. Oh, good point. Cancel that, make me FirstBase.
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What's so magical about that airbus that it costs that much to run? Call me Tapco, I want to fly a fighter!
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Right then, now that we are signed on with the Eurotrash lets have a review of our capabilities. Logistics/Support KC-135: More than enough for our needs, slow and vulnerable but it's a bloody tanker. Not much nuance here beyond the fact it can only extend the range of our Gripens and nothing else at current. CN-235-200: Very much a medium/light transport. Only 6000kg carry capacity, We aren't going to be recreating a Berlin airlift with this . S100B: Good news! Great loiter time and decent all round sensor performance. Bad news, slow as balls and completely defenceless. Keeping this protected should factor into all mission planning when we know there are hostile air assets about. Combat Aircraft SK60b: Payloads seem limited depending on what we can bash together and it's slow too with a max speed of 400 knots however the rockets we do have are very versatile. 135mm rockets are bloody big, giving the HE great splash for dealing with soft targets and the AP have serious punch. Lack of any real sensor package however makes them quite vulnerable to both ground and air. These will not survive in any AO with hostile air or decent SAM coverage, even AAA and MANPADS will give them trouble. Good for COIN though, but we should consider upgrading these with some serious strike aircraft in the future (AJS-37 comes to mind) JAS 39C Gripen: Our real workhorse, it can do everything essentially. Fantastic sensor package, ECM and solid TGP capability. When combined with our AWACS the Meteor missile should give us an edge in any CAP situation. Lack of SEAD ordnance is a bit of a problem for strike missions as while the BK90 has great standoff, finding enemy SAM sites to drop them on can be a bit of a bother. Thoughts Going forward, we are in a good initial position with capable aircraft and ordnance. However we must take care to preserve what we have given the vulnerable nature of all our assets aside from the Gripen. But with thorough planning there is no mission we cannot accomplish. Pending our first contract I will produce recommendations on future procurement based on our performance. Enfield303 fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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JcDent posted:What's so magical about that airbus that it costs that much to run? Where most of our aircraft have one, or a few people, the Airbus is a bit of a primadonna and requires the equivalent of airborne stevedores. This also assumes some ground unloading staff and equipment as well. Be it sourced from the locals or a contractor brought in with all terrain fork lifts or heavy equipment. Pilot roster is quite full. The AWACS is the hot ticket it seems. As planes are lost, or we expand, we'll promote people into new aircraft. I'm expecting a call from K&P shortly and once I do I'll get it transcribed and onto YouTube so everyone can listen in. The first two AoO's are solidifying. Our office secretary, Caramella Ooze, has done fantastic work bringing together a ton of options. Be sure to vote her a bonus come the holidays. The informational packets will be inbound shortly and then we'll start the voting. But a little teaser. AoO #1 : Brad Pitt spent seven years here. AoO #2 : Sarah Palin can see it from her house.
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On second thought, how active is pilot participation going to be? Reading the OP again it looks to be more than just having a name in the game and seeing when you get blown out of the sky. Kinda don't have the time to be super active here, so I'd be happy to stand down or give command to someone else depending on how involved it's going to be/it needs to be.
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Yooper posted:
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Oooo, AoO #1 looks good if we feel like pissing off--oh wait China doesn't exist any more.
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StarFyter posted:On second thought, how active is pilot participation going to be? Reading the OP again it looks to be more than just having a name in the game and seeing when you get blown out of the sky. It's gonna be pretty chill really. My hope is you guys define some mission parameters and then I put it all into the games Mission Editor. I'm thinking some along the lines of :
You can get a lot more detailed on the missions, and that's OK, I'll just need to micromanage a bit more. But the game lets us really dial in on zones and weapon release stuff.
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If there's still a seat open I'll take any plane, callsign Space Case
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I think I'm already attached to my SK60B. Look at these rockets! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9uOprded_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBEyE2sARdI
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 Option #1  Synopsis As China slowly broke apart into her historical parts Tibet saw an opportunity to gain independence. The Dalai Lama originally backed the TLA, however his health is failing and other individuals have stepped up to take his place. All sides learned how to negotiate the modern non-battlefield from Russia and the Ukraine. It's not soldiers but volunteers. It's not hostilities but tension. The Chinese are struggling to hold on to control and are operating an under force air wing that is supporting ethnic Han Chinese who are in control of Lhasa. They have some exceptional air defenses. The TLA is backed by the NATO countries in name only. India is working the humanitarian angle but sees an opportunity to humiliate the Chinese after the Sino-Indian War of 1967. Our consultants expect that India wants an independent Tibet as a buffer state to Arunachal Pradesh and may go to extraordinary lengths to secure it. Retainer : $30 Million Mission Range : $3-12 Option #2  Synopsis Japan in a joint lawsuit with Russia won fishing rights in the Bering Sea during a landmark WTO decision. The US has disputed the results and is currently threatening to pull out of the WTO. So right now it's a free for all. The catch on both sides is no one wants to see fisherman killed, just the automated canning ships and facilities. There is also another PMC operating in this area, Larry's Lofters and will likely take whatever contract we don't. A US Carrier Group is operating in the Bering Straits to protect oil tankers transiting the area. Our contact has said that anyone who strays near that carrier group will be hosed up. We've had a contact from ANGERPeace, a splinter group of GreenPeace who wants to cripple both sides. They are backed financially by a sect of Bob Barkers Financial Fund. This is not a sanctioned option and will likely piss everyone off. But it'll pay. Retainer : $33 Million Mission Range : $4-16 The NATO flag indicates backing of Western Europe and the US. The UN flag indicates an option friendlier to the rest of the world. Unsanctioned operations can put us on the dark side of the law and can reduce our ability to procure UN and Nato friendly work.
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Triple A posted:Let me guess, Vladdy-boy is in a pinch and needs deniable assets. NOOOOO!  I don't wanna work for Vladdy-boy...  EDIT: Any option that includes "humanitarian aid escort" is a good first step. Let's go with the Indian State of Arunachal Pradesh. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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