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Dreamsicle posted:I think he means Iron Sky moon Nazis. I do indeed mean Iron Sky moon Nazis.
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When do we reach the point that we run half our missions in Children of a Dead Earth?
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xthetenth posted:When do we reach the point that we run half our missions in Children of a Dead Earth? Personally, I cant wait
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Davin Valkri posted:Wouldn't theoretical moon Nazis be horribly outclassed by literally everything in the modern database? I'm sure we can find a weheraboo to explain to us how an 88 could bring down an entire wing of F22s.
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May 28, 2017 18:46
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Yooper posted:I have returned and the mosquito's did not carry us away. I'll count votes later this afternoon and we'll get into mission planning. We'll be the judge of whether we want to gently caress off, thankyouverymuch. 
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May 28, 2017 18:54
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Yooper posted:I have returned and the mosquito's did not carry us away. I'll count votes later this afternoon and we'll get into mission planning. Part 2 of my weapon compendium is on page 212.
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May 28, 2017 19:04
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Yvonmukluk posted:We'll be the judge of whether we want to gently caress off, thankyouverymuch. Seriously can we downsize the salt factory a little? It's getting annoying.
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Z the IVth posted:Seriously can we downsize the salt factory a little? It's getting annoying. Sounds like you need some kaizen there, buddy!
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May 28, 2017 19:09
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With proper application of amphetamines and an enthusiastic turnaround time, our Gripen pilots are good candidates for working themselves to death like proper salarymen!
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May 28, 2017 19:12
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Can we Nick a robot after the campaign ends?
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Z the IVth posted:Seriously can we downsize the salt factory a little? It's getting annoying. While I admire Hayard Gunnes' dedication to reducing Mitsuhashi's preservation costs, I agree. David Corbett fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 19:35
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Z the IVth posted:Seriously can we downsize the salt factory a little? It's getting annoying. I'm enjoying every moment of the Toyota Method as applied to a rag-tag band of combat ready mercenaries.  (Especially the F-16 voters.) Just wait till inspections roll around! RA Rx fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 19:38
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The game is inspired by Strike Commander. Be grateful the ENTIRE GAME isn't F-16s and then one hilariously surprisingly underwhelming F-22 for 2 missions.
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May 28, 2017 19:43
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Night10194 posted:With proper application of amphetamines and an enthusiastic turnaround time, our Gripen pilots are good candidates for working themselves to death like proper salarymen! As someone with experience in the misuse of amphetamines, I recommend we ensure they fly with a CamelBak and a stillsuit for proper hydration during longer ops. Also Laser. Bote.
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May 28, 2017 20:02
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RA Rx posted:I'm enjoying every moment of the Toyota Method as applied to a rag-tag band of combat ready mercenaries. We need more F-16s. Especially these ones. 
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May 28, 2017 20:47
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Getting rid of LGB chuckers is a bad idea. Getting rid of birds that are both LGB chuckers AND AMRAAM carriers is downright stupid. That capability has saved our asses before and will save them again.
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May 28, 2017 20:48
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The 5S Method and Merc Work The new bosses want us to fit in with their corporate culture. As much as we like to bitch about it, it's really not so bad. The whole system is based around being organized and minimizing waste. Saving money works for big corporations, and it works for scrappy mercs. Honestly it's not too much different then the cost cutting we'd have to do if dogmocracy had swung the other way. 1S - Seiri This can be translated as "sort" or "de-clutter". It means we shouldn't have unnecessary planes in the air. We sortie only what we need, and keep the expensive and rare stuff grounded until we really need it. 2S - Seiton This all about setting priorities. We create a priority list of targets, and focus on high priority targets first. I suggest: 1. Military Aircraft 2. Armed Military Ship 3. Armed Civilian Ship 4. Iceberg Fishing Vessel 5. BSNC Fishing Vessel We sweep from close to our base and work further out, making sure we hit any nearer stuff that pops up. 3S - Seiso Clean and safe. This is why they've locked up our munitions. It may be possible to get them to back off if we convince them the guards aren't licensed to handle explosives, or appeal to Seiton and say they need to be close to the planes in order to increase efficiency. I'll break out my old Japanese textbook and get on it since I'm grounded. For Merc work, that's easy - it's exactly what we do. We clean out threats from the AO and keep all those nasty red blips swept off the radar so they're not a safety risk. 4S - Seiketsu Standards. This is the most Mickey Mouse bullshit. Maybe we can pay our accountant to dummy up a few bricks of paperwork. Meanwhile, just look nice when the bosses show up for inspection and keep your mouths shut. 5S - Shitsuke Part of it's training. Get your certs in order, put in some sim time, learn a new language; German's a good choice. The other part is taking initiative; if you're in the air, engage your targets. None of this circling for half an hour and whining that you can't hit the target. This also calls for a monthly performance review, so consider that incentive to wrap this up in less than a month. Kanban - Let the Work Pull You The concept of Kanban as applied to Merc work is similar to Seiri. Instead of flying every plane every mission, we let the battlefield dictate the pace. In practice this means active reserves, swapping out when someone goes Winchester, and not letting yourself get caught too far forward. It's what we should have been doing in Angola, so hopefully we learn it here. There's also a very "supervisor forward" philosophy - so we need a volunteer from a low-priority plane to sit out a mission so some Japanese salaryman can get a bit of a thrill and then tell us how to do our jobs.
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So it's a bunch of poo poo that sounds good on paper but is difficult to pull off in a military context where using too much force is much safer than risking using too little and getting wiped out. News at 11.
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Added Space posted:The 5S Method and Merc Work We could also come at this from a different angle that does not emphasize limiting the use of force. Seiri 1 - Sort company assets by value and risk of attack. Use this plot as a guide to mission priorities. 2 - Sort our own tools according to purpose and efficacy. Devise patrol squadrons suited to each part of the theater. Seiton I think you're right on, though the near-to-far sweep may not be the only appropriate prioritization. It might be more about prioritizing the assets protect than the ones we destroy [edit]. Seiso The company's tools in the area are its fishing assets. The tools are not working properly because they're degraded by Iceberg/BSNC aggression. Munitions are the grit and polish that can restore a healthy sheen of profitability - we just need full access to them. Probably we'll have to prove to our employer that there is a direct connection between our access to weapons and their industrial output. Seiketsu Agree that this is something we do for show. Shitsuke In my opinion "do without being told" means exactly what we'd like it to mean.
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Terminal Lance is remarkably appropriate. Also, this is exactly the kind of stuff that works fine on a factory floor, but in a military setting things like "minimizing waste" tends to mean that everyone dies because you didn't bring enough missiles.
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Quinntan posted:We need more F-16s. Especially these ones. Heck yes, also some F-15s to go with them 
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Crazycryodude posted:Terminal Lance is remarkably appropriate. Also, this is exactly the kind of stuff that works fine on a factory floor, but in a military setting things like "minimizing waste" tends to mean that everyone dies because you didn't bring enough missiles. We just need to include opportunity cost of lost planes. That's a ton of resources wasted if we can't ensure our planes' safety.
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Who controls our ammunition supply? (I'm not talking about the super-detailed management Yooper had and then scrapped, I'm talking in storyline). Because I agree that the "minimizing waste" approach could backfire spectacularly, and that in any case, controlling our logistics is the perfect way for an employer to get leverage over us, regardless of their philosophy or management methods. (It would be a legitimately interesting challenge to have a mission where we had severely limited loadout supplies. I've made a scenario or two myself where that was the case-it's not something I'd want to have every time, either as a participant or scenario creator, but it is a very good exercise that makes you think and prioritize) Quinntan posted:We need more F-16s. Especially these ones. Well lookie here (I don't know what Yooper's policy on hypothetical aircraft is. Might not want to open the door to A-12 Terrible Triangles and the cruise missile 747).
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I would gladly swap out my Mirage for a flying dorito.
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Coiler121 posted:(I don't know what Yooper's policy on hypothetical aircraft is. Might not want to open the door to A-12 Terrible Triangles and the cruise missile 747). Excuse you. Why wouldnt we want that?
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Loel posted:Excuse you. Why wouldnt we want that? Its power is too great for us to be trusted with.
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Loel posted:Excuse you. Why wouldnt we want that? Because entire planeload of CALCMs costs 150 million dollars.
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Crazycryodude posted:Its power is too great for us to be trusted with. aren't you the one who keeps saying we should have nuclear weaponry
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Alright, its power is too great for YOOPER to trust us with. I''d take one packed with nukes and nerve gas in a second if I could.
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  Another tie. So this is what I get for not doing the IRV thing. This time, so the dogmocracy method doesn't get old, I'm going to hire both Cobbie and Zack. Cobbie is going to round up his group and head North. I hit up Zack but he said it's Stanley Cup time and his fantasy hockey league is doing "loving wicked" and he can't be bothered today. I have to build the scenario and then I'll get a mission brief off to you guys.
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Crazycryodude posted:Alright, its power is too great for YOOPER to trust us with. I''d take one packed with nukes and nerve gas in a second if I could. Amen 
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Yooper posted:
This is an ignorant statement. Dogmocracy can't get old.
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Crazycryodude posted:Alright, its power is too great for YOOPER to trust us with. I''d take one packed with nukes and nerve gas in a second if I could. Me too, warcrimes buddy, me too.
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Remember, the most important alpha strike we can launch is on the shareholders.
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xthetenth posted:Remember, the most important alpha strike we can launch is on the shareholders. The Final Mission: New York City Public Schools
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Loel posted:The Final Mission: New York City Public Schools Wow. I kind of don't actually want to destroy my high school.
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xthetenth posted:Wow. I kind of don't actually want to destroy my high school. Thats what you get for alpha striking our shareholders
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Loel posted:The Final Mission: New York City Public Schools Or at least their pension fund offices.
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Loel posted:Thats what you get for alpha striking our shareholders Freeing us from the chains of capital is a worthy goal.
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