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I'm up for a good dorfing. Anything without guns, callsign Socks 'cause I'm never boots on ground.
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Not up on all the military terms, but Meteors seem hugely overpriced and would blow our entire budget. We're not exactly a first ranked company, we shouldn't take a contract where that kind of one-use weapon is needed. Also not sure why we'd buy a sensor pod given that our AWACS can canvas an entire country more or less for free.
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Apr 4, 2017 17:46
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No to the museum pieces, we don't have an unlimited amount of money and they're useless if we want to take big-time missions.
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Apr 9, 2017 17:19
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Socks is listed in two different planes.
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Apr 14, 2017 05:20
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I hope we can sort out this whole fuel paranoia thing or else we're always going to have CAP way out of position. And you guys doubted the value of the bomb trucks. We're not pretty but we get the job done. That said, we should probably stay out of the Eastern Hemisphere for a while.
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Apr 15, 2017 06:37
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rchandra posted:PR proposal: fund pensions for Indian pilot widow(er)s. Public Relations? We're jet powered mercenaries, we ain't exactly a public business. We're not even slightly at fault here, it was some drat politician's idea to send those boys to their death. Us offering money might well seem insulting to those folks who think they died for some better reason. It's also impolite to imply that our employer can't support their own. Find some other way to ease your conscience without sticking your hand in the company till.
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Apr 15, 2017 08:23
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I vote that we buy planes, I don't really understand all the wrangling. Go to Angola and support the Dictator. Idealism is nice but doesn't pay the bills.
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Apr 17, 2017 02:14
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power crystals posted:By the way, a meta-proposal: next time we do procurement, offer packages from the three vendors based on what we're making noises about wanting. So for ARMs BLFM would try to hand us a Prowler vs K&P's ECRs, and likewise for the ADA (Hawks + VADS, SA-22, SIDAMs + ASRADs). This would leave flexibility without devolving into arguments over the exact number of Phantoms that is appropriate to buy. Let Willie handle any wildcard requests like the Growlers if none of the offered packages are appealing. We've been at this poo poo for seven pages now and there's more proposals than votes Alternate proposal, do a lottery and pick three packages to vote on. This back-and-forth revising is probably good but it's too confusing for something like a popular vote.
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Apr 17, 2017 05:23
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Apr 19, 2017 21:29
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Rohan Also, Yooper, check your PMs.
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Apr 20, 2017 02:00
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More news from the region -Times of India posted:
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Apr 20, 2017 02:47
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Mainly I voted for Rohan because there's a real woman online who might get another :5bux: out of the deal.
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Apr 20, 2017 22:43
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I'd advise against being too aggressive. It sounds like the Count's not in a position right now to advance and claim land, so we'd be drawing most of the Dictator's attention to ourselves. We want to consolidate and defend until we get a note from our employer to go offensive.
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Apr 21, 2017 05:18
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Renaissance Spam posted:If we're too conservative we're going to invite increased attacks from the Dictator as he sees an opportunity to strike a soft target. If we can show that we're a force to be reckoned with me may not only put the Dictator on the back foot but we may be able to convince Reddit Nation to join the fray directly, forcing Angola to split their forces and take the pressure off of Hoff's humanitarian efforts, which means one less thing we have to split our forces over. Reddit is already forced to attack since they don't have control any mines. In any two-front war you commit most of your forces to one front to try to end it quickly, and we don't want that to be us. If we draw a bright line and defend it but don't encroach, we can encourage most of his forces to go north. That's when we go right ahead and stab him hard in the back.
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Apr 21, 2017 06:26
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I do have an aviation museum in my home town, but most the stuff is prop planes and the few jets they have aren't in the game database.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:52
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Yeah, unless we're prepared to buy the land and fence it off indefinitely, we shouldn't drop cluster ammunition anywhere. Even the use in Lhasa was questionable, but that airfield had to be shut down quickly and for a long term.
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Apr 22, 2017 23:26
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Quinntan posted:We're mercenaries. If we wanted to be ethical, we're in the wrong profession. It's not so much ethical as pragmatic. Until we bribe some big-name politicians to bury any scandals we shouldn't get a reputation for indiscriminate killing of civilians. Added Space fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 23:33
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Bacarruda posted:Gentlemen, Operation First Impressions is a go! An excellent brief. I'm just flying backseat on rocket duty but I'm confident.
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Apr 23, 2017 04:00
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Well, losses and fuckups are going to happen. It's interesting to see the AI acting on its own timetable, and it looks like we've confirmed which mercs went where. At this point I'm almost tempted to try to take out harbors in a sort of aerial blockade - is it even possible to do something like that without something like a MOAB or nuke?
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The Sandman posted:Edit: Okay, never mind, we had more HARMs. Although I don't think we hit anything with those either. And what the hell was Mobius trying to do that involved doing donuts over a SAM site until it shot him down rather than flying away and hitting it with a bomb or something? The radar was set to pulse on randomly. Mobius spotted a pulse and went to hit it, but it turned off again before he got into launch range. You can't very well launch a HARM without the R, so he was waiting for it to pulse on again, and just ignoring whatever it was the platoon was eyeball-firing at him.
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Apr 23, 2017 10:02
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Actually, rewatching the op, can people explain why they were so impressed by the Gorgon Stare? It seemed like it couldn't identify poo poo until it was right overhead of it.
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Your plan was bad and no-one likes you Bacarruda. Down the Throat  Pre-deploy the Reaper with Gorgon Stare pods to Point Avalanche. Advance north until the convoy is spotted or the path crosses anti-air range. Launch two Gripens with maximum Meteor loads with orders to loiter over the airport. They are not to leave the area and fire at any hostiles that come in range. Bingo at 5% and quick turn around for Winchester. Load remaining Gripens with maximum air-to-air and all other attack craft capable of mid-air refueling with maximum SEAD and CAS as appropriate. Proceed with the Growler, Big Pig and the AWACS to Point Avalanche. Rally and refuel, match speeds, and have combat elements proceed north. Enemy anti-air is to be eliminated at maximum range with minimum force. Once we can confirm lack of anti-air over the Bulgarian ground forces, launch SKB60s for CAS operations against ground forces. Bomb the diamond convoy at the highest range. Once destroyed, weapons free on the Bulgarian forces. If the SA-20 Gargoyle is spotted, engage in plan Infidel. Infidel: Engage jamming with the Growler. Vector directly towards the Gargoyle. Launch the first missiles at maximum range, then raise speed to the maximum. Once a plane is out of missiles to fire, break at 90 degrees until out of range and return to Avalanche. Once destruction is confirmed return to the plan and complete operations. Added Space fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 04:49
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The main thing I wanted to minimize with my plan is this nonsense where our forces are spread out and wander halfway across the map when they get a stupid idea in their heads. Place the tanker in a position close to but behind the front where it can be screened. Have forces match speed so they don't get strung out. Top up before operations so our guys don't wander off ten feet before the goal line. Concentrate forces. Keep that in mind if you're putting your support forces somewhere far away from and at a weird angle to your operational goals.
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Bacarruda posted:Then I'm not sure why you're such bearish about my plan, given that it's literally the only one with clearly-establish No-Fly Zones and No-Engagement zones. I meant your planned acquisition that got voted down and you just won't stop whining about.
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I personally want our own Hercules so that we can drop MOABs.
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Apr 26, 2017 05:37
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Loel posted:Fairly sure we have one Nope, we have a piddly little cargo plane with one tenth the carrying capacity. Yawn.
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Apr 26, 2017 05:46
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I don't know if you realize this Yooper but the stream cuts off after the Taurus strike fails.
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So, what's the answer for what we're doing, firing Meteors at max range without attack radar?
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Why would you design an alcohol cooled anything on a friggin' jet? 
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Apr 29, 2017 21:23
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It's sad when you're in a jet and you're outperformed by a pack of unmanned gliders. 
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Will wrote a plan tomorrow, but let me float a target for your approval - http://www.sonangol.co.ao/English/AreasOfActivity/Downstream/Pages/Refinery.aspx
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The Luanda oil refinery is absolutely a valid military target. It contains their national reserve of jet fuel. Energy targets are valid under the Geneva conventions. The refinery represents 0.03% of world production. Most of their oil is exported crude. It would be a huge blow to their military and nary a blip on world radar.
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Huh, considering the length of the operation, what are the loiter and turnaround times of our support elements? Specifically the reaper, sperwyr, AWACS and tanker?
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May 1, 2017 17:15
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Thanks Yooper! Hopefully I'm not a watch list for searching for black ops and strategic maps for Angola. We have some flexibility but it looks we have to hold a mission on the ground to go meet those Kfirs if we want them.
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Operation Care Package We're going to split our op force into three parts in order to hit more strategic targets. I'd appreciate any tactical insight. Audacious Flight 4x Gripen 4x Tornado 2x Mirage 1x Prowler 1x Reaper Bold Flight 4x Gripen 6x Phantom 2x AMX 1x Sperwer Clubfoot Flight 5x SK60B 1x Frogfoot 1x Hawk Our tankers and AWACS can join in with every flight. ROE If an SA-11 is spotted, cease operations and attack with one Gripen firing SDBs, following with the second (and third for Bold) if the first fails. If the target remains, proceed with the rest of the mission outside its range. AA Gripens should maintain Ready 5 when not on an active mission. When we get the call on the Kfirs, activate Plan Judas. If you have more bogeys then missiles, run away. Disallow the use of guns. Attack Radar OFF unless you need a firing solution. Jammers always ON.  Avalanche attack - 0700 Audacious - SEAD 2x Gripen A/A Intercept (220 nm): 4x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm) / 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 2x Gripen Land Standoff Strike (530 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) / 8x GBU-39/B SDB (60 nm) 2x Mirage Guided Bomb (350 nm, Day Only, Clear Weather): 2x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 4x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod 2x Saudi Tornado ALARM (950 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 5x ALARM Blk 1 (40 nm) 2x German Tornado HARM (820 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x AGM-88B HARM (70nm) 1x Prowler HARM (550 nm): 1x AGM-88C HARM (70 nm), 4x AN/ALQ-991 ECM Pod 1x Reaper Recon (1600 nm): 2x Gorgon Stare Increment 2 Sensor Pod Clubfoot - CAS 5x SK60B Rocket (375 nm, Day-Only, Limited All-Weather): 12x M/70 135mm Rocket (2nm) 1x Frogfoot Anti-Tank (210 nm): 2x AA-8 Aphid (5 nm), 16x AT-16 Scallion (5 nm) 1x Hawk Anti-ground: 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x AGM-65G Maverick IR (8nm) The Reaper, Prowler, AWACS, and Stratotanker will orbit just east of the airfield. Audacious will clear out enemy radar installations and destroy AA from the Bulgarians to the coast. Once clear, Audacious and Clubfoot should clear out enemy armor and forward bases. Audacious and support elements should RTB when out of bombs. Clubfoot should quick turnaround and continue attacking until they run out of targets or daylight. Bastion Attack - SCRUBBED No attack. Cutthroat attack - 1500 Audacious - Deep Strike 4x Gripen A/A Intercept (220 nm): 4x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm) / 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 2x Mirage Guided Bomb (350 nm, Day Only, Clear Weather): 2x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 4x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod 2x German Tornado Land Standoff Strike (650 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x Taurus KEPD 350P (180 nm) 2x Saudi Tornado Cruise Missile (825 nm): 2x Storm Shadow (215 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 1x Reaper Recon (1600 nm): 2x Gorgon Stare Increment 2 Sensor Pod At 1300 launch the Sperwer towards Lobito. At 1400 launch the reaper towards Lubito. Move northwest over the ocean at military speed. Target one Storm Shadow at the radar installation south of Luanda, and the rest at the Ministry of Defense. Use the indicated flight path for the cruise missiles. After launch Tornadoes can RTB. Other elements will remain aloft until sunset to assist with Deviant and Judas. Deviant attack - 1500 Bold - Anti-runway 1x Gripen A/A Intercept (220 nm): 4x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm) / 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 3x Gripen Land Standoff Strike (530 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) / 8x GBU-39/B SDB (60 nm) 2x Phantoms DWS.39 AFDS Anti-runway cluster bombs. (2xDWS.39, 2xAMRAAM, DECM Pod, 3x Drop Tank) 2x Phantoms A/A AMRAAM (150 nm): 4x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 4x AIM-120B AMRAAM (40 nm) 2x Phantoms Bomb Truck (240 nm): 2x AIM-120B AMRAAM (40 nm), 12x Mk82 500lb LDGP (1 nm), 1x AN/ALQ-119 ECM Pod 2x AMX Counter-Runway (480 nm, Day Only, Limited All-Weather): 2x AIM-9L Sidewinder (10 nm)*, 2x Durandal (1 nm) 1x Prowler HARM (550 nm): 1x AGM-88C HARM (70 nm), 4x AN/ALQ-991 ECM Pod Deploy the prowler, AWACS, and Stratotanker over the lithium mine north of Lubango. Proceed to attack and disable Lobito airfield. Destroy the FOB west of Caimbambo. Extra attack - 0200 Audacious - Deep Strike 4x Gripen A/A Intercept (220 nm): 4x RB 107 Meteor (75 nm) / 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 2x Mirage Guided Bomb (350 nm, Day Only, Clear Weather): 2x R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 (10 nm), 4x GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB (4 nm), 1x Barax NG DECM Pod 2x German Tornado Land Standoff Strike (650 nm): 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm), 2x Taurus KEPD 350P (180 nm) 2x Saudi Tornado Cruise Missile (825 nm): 2x Storm Shadow (215 nm), 2x AIM-2000A (15 nm) 1x Reaper Recon (1600 nm): 2x Gorgon Stare Increment 2 Sensor Pod Fire cruise missiles. Priority order if still standing - southern radar installations, Caimbambo FOB, the military base at Balombo. Plan Judas Assess - is there an active enemy radar installation between the Kfirs and our borders? If so, tell them "Good luck assholes" and continue with operations until that's no longer true. Divert AA elements from any running operations to escort them. Scramble AA Gripens from Lubango and the VC10 at military speed to intercept them. Warn off Free State planes, then fire if they persist. Once under escort, the Kfirs are to drop all ordinance (into Dictator forces if possible) and proceed to the nearest friendly airbase under escort from the scrambled Gripens. Put a missile in them if they start looking squirrely. Scrambled Gripens will RTB and any active operations will proceed. Added Space fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 3, 2017 |
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I'm going to point out again that destroying the Luanda oil refinery will also destroy the nation's fuel reserves. That's a knockout blow for a war - they'll be operating without jet or tank fuel. It doesn't matter what they hire at that point because it'll be stuck in its box. This is a chance to prevent the war from skidding to a halt under endless Lithium funding, and we'll never get a better shot at it.
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Tythas posted:I would throw out objective Bastion it puts our units way to far out with only one plane on CAP There's also two Phantoms on CAP and the rest of the Phantoms have it as a secondary.
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