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Finally caught up, good grief, what a read, what a ride! You folks are scary dedicated to this LP, and with good reason; the quality and effort shown in production, from all sides, is astounding. @Yooper: Please sign me up for a pilot spot, callsign ‘LoSA’. Would prefer to be ‘ground-attack’, and if we were ever to get bombers, I want a go! (yeah, I know the bomber wait list is at least a few deep). By the way, bit of a surprise when I read that post on ‘why you’re doing this LP’; glad you’re healthy and in the clear (or so it would seem, with vacations and work trips back on the schedule). For the Goons: So, any advice on how to put mission plans together? I’d like to give it a shot, except they’re rather intimidating to even wrap your head around? Suggestions on how to make it more ‘doable’ for a neophyte?
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power crystals posted:Also you'll get to decide on some kind of naming theme which is the most fun part. Some people go for references to other things (usually Ace Combat for some reason), I try to keep mine original though that sometimes works better and sometimes worse. I'm not to proud to admit that this is the real reason I want to post mission plans; I just want to hear Yooper say 'Taco Flight' is covered by 'Lengua Flight' with 'Gucamole Flight' on Top Cover.   power crystals posted:When it comes time, write one up and post it even if you think it sucks because hopefully one of us will explain what's good/bad about it, at least in their mind. I will, thanks. Only way to get better, right?
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Sep 12, 2017 22:57
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Thanks for the advice, folks!DesperateDan posted:. . . detailed plans are shite imho because it normally all falls apart somewhere anyway (or cmano decides to just do whatever despite what careful settings you gave a flight). This is what I'm thinking as well; establish a framework for the mission, then rely on your operators to show initiative and flexibility with the finer details (i.e., let Yooper react to developments on our behalf and trust he's not out to TPK the team). Yooper posted:You can draw it in a map if you're feeling spunky but I'm going to use common sense. Now if your plan is risky then I'll let it fly, but I'm not going to punish someone because they don't understand a weapons release or something. Even then I'll probably still gently caress it up. Makes sense, thanks! You've more than shown the spirit of fair play during this LP!
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Sep 13, 2017 18:40
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Yooper posted:Sebmojo is the man. A scholar and a gentleman. You guys are going to love this poo poo. So, is he Colbie, or, is this a new character we'll be getting? Yooper posted:I'm aiming for a Saturday mission. Hype Hype Hype!!! Checklist for Saturday Night: - Bottle of wine - Steaks on the grill - No date
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Sep 14, 2017 19:42
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Jimmy4400nav posted:
Just out of curiosity, have you had to explain the patch to your squadron? Does this 'thing' that we do make sense to 'normal' people?
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Sep 15, 2017 04:35
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Jimmy4400nav posted:. . . turns out there are a ton of nerds in aviation, who knew!?! Yeah, makes perfect sense actually, I'm in the industry too, as it were. Just, on the civilian, supply side.
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Sep 15, 2017 05:21
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Yooper posted:Are you an expert in LUA scripting? Or even just better than me? Would love to help if I could, except I know not of these things. Maybe if you have a Program you'd like managed? Yooper posted:
Man this is gonna be great! Any idea when you'll post the stream-going-live warning?
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Sep 15, 2017 19:29
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Mission to be run on Saturday afternoon or evening. It's programmed. It's tested. The voice files are awesome. And THERE. WILL. BE. BLOOD.
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Yooper posted:Aiming for around 1900 EST. Probably won't be any earlier than that. I typically let the stream go live for awhile to give people beer-spouse-pizza warning. Sweet, I'll plan accordingly. Your pre-warnings are always appreciated; gives me time to open that bottle of wine, fire them steaks, and tell my non-existent spouse to 'take the night off'. Yooper posted:There's a lot going on and I'm going to take my time running it. Really. I am. Man, this mission truly sounds massive and involved. Hope we planned well enough for a Stalingrad-esque fight through that airport / town.
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Sep 15, 2017 21:41
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paragon1 posted:Everyone tries their best but let's be real here you can't control war. What if I click really fast and have all my hot-keys mapped to the keypad?
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Sep 15, 2017 22:44
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Yooper posted:Streams are up! Going live in about 15 minutes or so. Awww yeah, been waiting all day . . . where's my bottle opener . . .
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Sep 16, 2017 23:59
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Thanks @Yooper, that was fun, looking forward to seeing the Butcher's Bill and the debrief.
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Sep 17, 2017 02:35
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Realbarrow posted:Seconded. Third. Its all fun and games in the air until the bill needs to be paid back at base.
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Sep 17, 2017 02:49
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Tythas posted:Then take it out of my pay and Go Dance with the Angels Just joshing around friend, having a spot of fun, taking the piss out as it were! Been meaning to ask, what is this Angels Tax I keep hearing about, regarding that Ace Combat thread?
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Sep 17, 2017 03:07
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Crazycryodude posted:Man sounds like this was a really bad mission to lose internet halfway through. Sorry I missed the second half, sounds like that's when all the fun poo poo happened. Buddy, is that why you went silent in the second half!?! Don't want to give spoilers, let's just say Yooper wasn't kidding when he said there would be Blood!
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Sep 17, 2017 03:23
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That mission payout and expenditures is unbelievable, how is this even possible? Is the price difference between the cutting edge and our inventory really that great? I suppose so. Between the net profit this mission and the nuke 'ransom', HG really can upgrade to the next evolution. All we have to do is complete phase 3. Davin Valkri posted:Do we have a list of what aircraft are available for the next phase? I just want to be sure I have all the assets for Operation Ultima Weapon and am not overcounting. Waiting on the update for this listing; my thoughts, since the Bering Straights just turned Deadly Ground on us, with the Russians and and RedNecks are closing in, time for a fighting retreat. Also, ALDI had our money all along? Heh, did they toss in some sauerkraut and sausages with the payment?
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Sep 17, 2017 04:24
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Mycroft Holmes posted:I still don't have much of a dog in this fight until I get put in a bomber. Cool that we got the nuke, though. So, yeah, about that bomber. Maybe we can all 'pilot' it together?
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Sep 17, 2017 04:35
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Crazycryodude posted:See what happens when I'm not around? I walk away for 2 hours and you guys go and kill an entire air force. smdh Yes, by which you mean SMARF and getting a cool half a Billion Destruco-Bucks in the bank?
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Sep 17, 2017 05:02
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Mycroft Holmes posted:pick a position. i'm the pilot. Navigator. You fly where I tell you.
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Sep 17, 2017 05:45
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Help the USN We can't keep trying to play all sides forever; future contract opportunities or not, let's get out of this theater alive first while satisfying all of out current obligations before counting lost earnings potential. Besides, we've all played 'Faction Gain' games before, and to get access to the best stuff, we have to max our Rep with one group. 
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Sep 17, 2017 20:57
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Hexenritter posted:. . . we can get this bitch out of this frozen shithole without it A: going off, or B: getting us all killed. I don't think A is going to be a problem; nukes don't just accidentally 'go off'; the bigger issue is the current radioactivity. Functioning nukes don't emit harmful radiation, to the point where people can get sick from being in its proximity. The fact those Hippies have radiation poisoning means a) Cobbie and crew need protective suits (or a lead-lined crate for the thing) and b) the device's 'casing' is cracked, meaning the nuke won't 'detonate' properly.
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Sep 18, 2017 02:49
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Realbarrow posted:THIRD OPTION: Indirectly obstruct the Bear by having the Dutch sail around near where the US subs are supposed to be so the Russian ASW assets can't determine what noise is American sub and what noise is Dutch frigate. I don't think it quite works like that; there's no confusing a surface contact with a submerged contact.
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Sep 18, 2017 03:53
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Two if by sea We're flying Top Cover for the USN anyways, might as well use those submarine assets to help us all escape, including the Dutch. Heck, we could even use ourselves as bait; lure the Russian Task Force into the inner passage, right into the subs. It'll be gloriously, 24 torpedoes 'slamming' across the ocean at 120 mph.
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Sep 18, 2017 22:56
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thatbastardken posted:Air extraction, operation to be named Incredible Sport Realbarrow posted:
Night10194 posted:Incredible Sport, fantastic airtime. Context, please?
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Sep 19, 2017 00:17
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I had a Credible Sport joke lined up but this is just so much more effortlessly appropriate than anything else could be. Seconded!
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Crazycryodude posted:Credible Sport was an idea for an operation that got kicked around in the US as an attempt to resolve the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Most notable for planning to land/take off a C-130 on a soccer field. Lots and lots of RATO was involved. Woah, thanks. I knew about Desert One, didn't realize the Op was called 'Credible Sport'.
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Sep 19, 2017 00:31
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Yooper posted:. . . it would behoove you to think outside the box. I like it, classic 'shape the battlefield' engagement; this fight is won before we ever take to the field. Objective: Mission Kill the IL-38N May. Complexity: Its too well protected by both sea and air assets, and we won't win a head-to-head fight. Possible Solutions (or realistically, all of 'The Solutions): a) Disable the Air Assets before they take to the skies and or before we engage them traditionally. b) Disable the Sea Assets before they reach the AOO and or before we engage them traditionally. c) Disable the IL-38N May before they reach the AOO and or before we engage them traditionally. d) Have the USN engage the fleet to reduce Russian Fleet effectiveness and or as a distraction before we engage them traditionally. What do my fellow Goons think?
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Sep 19, 2017 03:46
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Dr. Snark posted:These are the best I can come up with, but hopefully they'll be a start if nothing else. Right, questions. @Yooper for Jack and Zack 1) Where (approximately) is the 'line of departure' for Halsey's Fleet? 2) Do we have contacts for the serviceman at the Russian Air Bases? Someone we can persuade to 'accidentally' leave the weapon safety pins in, or under-fuel the planes, unplug a connector on the avionic suites, that sort of thing? 3) Sea Fleet sabotage options already covered by Dr. Snark 4) Can we evacuate everyone by boat, and make picking up Cobbie the last stop? If so, can we start packing and loading now? 5) Would the Russians 'retreat' once we down the IL-38N May, or is it a fighting retreat regardless?
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Sep 19, 2017 04:37
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Agean90 posted:You know since someone brough up corruption i dont suppose theres someone we can bribe to make things easier? Sure is; the name is Yooper. Ply him with enough beer, and he'll move the difficulty slider all the way down to novice. 
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Sep 19, 2017 05:11
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HereticMIND posted:My plan involves the Baha Men, Celine Dion, and several tons of explosives.
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Sep 19, 2017 08:33
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Yooper posted:1. Through the edge of the Aleutians. Right now they are in a zone bounded by Shirshov Ridge on one side and Vityaz Valley on the other. At mission close they'll turn and pass through the Aleutian basin. So, would it be possible to coordinate the attack with the USN subs? Overall thoughts are to slam a wall of torpedoes at the Russian Fleet, and while they're maneuvering out of the way, slam a wall of missiles at the IL-38N May. Yooper posted:2. The offer is being floated but in a resurgent nationalist Russia finding a greedy traitor is even harder than a patriotic one. Gotcha; no reducing the combat efficiency of the OPFOR through shenanigans. Yooper posted:5. This is the crux of it. How much are the Russians willing to risk that Kirov over an island? Ah Ha. So, let's not even plan on damaging the rest of the OPFOR beyond downing the IL-38N May. The Russians will turn away if even the 'potential' downside outweighs the benefits, that being a red-neck filled rock in the Bering Sea. Yooper posted:13/4, the device is going by Air. Alright, frame is slowing coming into focus. 1) Cobbie, ground assault team, and nuke, are leaving by air. We'll have to fly in the C-130s for exfil, and establish control of the airfield. 2) Our REMF's should evacuate immediately (what are the options in terms of airlift and or sealift?), they prep the planes for flight, then they're out; there will be no RTB for our air assets this mission. You run dry, that's it, you run for Canada. 3) General plan is to draw the IL-38N May away from the Russian boats, and the Russian planes. Maybe coordinating the attack with the USN subs may help? Doesn't sound like we can shenanigan the OPFOR's air assets, so, ideas for splitting up their air wing, without actually engaging in a fight? 4) Jack and Zack: Get off your asses and find us some back channel options, I need angles on something, anything. Ex-wives, old girlfriends, illegitimate children, gambling debts, revenge p0rn, bucket list desire to go to Comic Con, just find me someone, something, even remotely tangentially connected to the Russian Task Force.
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Yooper posted:25 Hours. In 25 hours we will approach the time that the Kirov is in operational range to gently caress poo poo up. It's also the point where the escorts can sniff out the potential USN blockade. Je. Sus. Time to start taking them 'combat cocktails'. Yooper posted:The CIA can provide intel and analysis but is unable to provide operational assets. There simply isn't the time. Had we better connections from previous choices (hint hint) we might have had those options today. So, is the IAEA able and or willing to help? Yooper posted:Assume that C-17's and C130's are running non-stop as we speak hauling typewriters, supply clerks, spare left handed stove wrenches, and crates of porn. Focus on the essentials : Nuclear Weapon. Buying time. The bar. Gotcha. Focus on the Operation and assume you'll take care of the pedantic stuff. Yooper posted:I'm currently fairly drunk at a conference and will try to update questions as time, and sobriety allows. Godspeed; you, Sir, are a GD Hero and National Treasure. Davin Valkri posted:Does that mean that the final phase of this operation will run for 24 hours instead of just 6-8? I think what Yooper means is that Phase 3 starts in 25 hours, when the Kirov reaches the AOO. (I could very well be wrong, of course)
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Sep 20, 2017 03:54
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power crystals posted:I am pretty sure that the Kirov arriving is the end of the campaign, one way or another, unless we've done so absurdly well that we actually have a chance to sink it, but by that point we might as well ride off into the sunset on our pet unicorns. Then I need clarification on this, before I try to put a Mission Plan together. @Yooper: Are the Russian Air assets advancing with the sea fleet (Escort CAP for the Kirov?), or are they sweeping ahead to clear the area of subs? (Escort CAP for the IL-38N May?) Davin Valkri posted:The Thread: I thought the Dutch where bugging out; i.e., no way in hell are they staying around with the Kirove TF bearing down on them?
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Sep 20, 2017 04:47
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Davin Valkri posted:My reading of is that the Dutch have no choice but to stand and fight with us, and hope they can get away clean. The Udaloy would be standing in the way of an escape south, so it has to go, but they may have enough force to take it down themselves. @Yooper: Need clarification on this; the answer of Yes to 'Are the Dutch bailing with us?' means we can count on them to help us fight our way out, or, they already pulled anchor and have been gone for hours?
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RandomPauI posted:If this is one of two or four Kirov's than the Russians can afford to lose the one. Even if it's the one that was the most functional/operational. But if it's their only Kirov and if it's coming with such a small battlegroup in tow then they might be hoping to bluff their way to a win. While I can't find an actual cost number associated with fielding a Kirov, estimates put it at around $1.5 Billion USD (give or take a couple hundred million); I don't think it matters how many of these Battlecruisers the Russians may have, you don't just write off a billion dollar asset as an 'acceptable loss'.
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wedgekree posted:Unless you're the Americans and it's an F-22 development cycle. Not quite, off by a factor of 15 or so? The F-22 cost $28 billion USD in development and testing; incremental costs are $138 million in 2009, and final cost per plane by the end of the program is forecasted at $339 million USD. Unless by development cycle you meant one design iteration? Possible, the thing was in R&D for over 15 years; only Lockheed would have those cost break-downs, and, I don't think the Program was quite set-up like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor
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Yooper posted:No you can't claim US Citizenship and expect a patriot to follow you around. Any word from Jack and Zack? Clock's ticking, and the while the Frame is rapidly coming into focus, its not showing us that 'special something' yet. Need some angles, because right now, its sneaking around the Bering Sea and 'slamming' missiles at The May. Also, some satellite imaging of the Russian TF and its deployment along the route of travel would help immensely.
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Yooper posted:I'm still at the conference (sober, for now) so don't expect shenanigans till Sunday at the earliest. Sounds good Chief, safe travels. David Corbett posted:I suppose, now that the enormity of the situation is finally dawning on us, that it is well and truly too late to reconsider our plan to pick a fight worth a few billion dollars worth of angry bears? It doesn't have to be a suicide mission or a duel to the death. My current planning is to 'close the door' on our way out, i.e., one wave of attack, with as many coordinated assets as we can muster, then running for the border whether it succeeds or not. We can't stand and slug it out with that TF, and I don't think that's the intent of the scenario anyways.
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Anta posted:. . . using civilian airliners for cover, by flying in close formation right behind and below them, effectively hiding in their shadow. Radar shadow trick might be possible, except there are multiple radar sites to consider (multiple IL-38N May's, two A-50U Mainstays, and Ugolny Kopi). Not a whole lot of 'shadow' to hide in, if you consider the varying 'vectors'; still, may be doable, if we had more information on the fleet deployment? Nick Esasky posted:Therefore, i have an idea. @Yooper: Is there any possibility of managing to arrange Unannounced Delays on any commercial flights flying through the AOO? Let's see what he says, however, aren't commercial flights tracked via transponder? There's no 'announcing' your flight, it just shows up on your screen with the transponder code. And no, I don't think we can bribe a commercial flight to turn off their transponder, as that makes it a bogey in this hot zone and more or less means a missile up the engine nacelle.
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Sep 21, 2017 23:54
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Crazycryodude posted:Can we finally do some warcrimes? So, honest, genuine question; what is this obsession that some of the Goons have with 'doing' war crimes? Is it just fantasy, wish fulfillment? Something to fanboy rally around? I'm trying to understand this desire to use the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as a FU checklist?
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Sep 22, 2017 05:53
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Yooper posted:I'm reviewing proposals. So far nothings' too wild. Though as Night mentioned, it's just kill the cover, not sink the ship. If the Kirov sinks, well, a little icing on the mercenary resume, but ideally we just make it turn around. Well thank Heavens for that! Thinking about putting a mission plan together, and, waiting until I hear from Jack and Zack.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:if you want creative i will kamikaze the ship I am not writing Operation: Ten-Go
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