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Well isnt that nice: IN DEFENCE OF TONY BLAIR
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2017 22:29 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 01:41 |
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ukle posted:It would be impossible to pass if Labour has any sense as they would lose 100+ MP's and they would be 'Turkey's voting for Christmas'. Remember the only way to call a GE quickly is via the options in respective bill and that requires a 2/3rd majority of MP's. The other way of repealing the bill would take time and would probably be blocked in the Lords. We've been over this many times. Opposition voting against an election, denying themselves and their voters a chance to get into power would be complete political suicide.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 10:48 |
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forkboy84 posted:As opposed to calling for an election at a point where they are as unpopular as they have been in over 30 years which would almost guarantee political suicide? Hmmm... If you, as an opposition party, are so afraid of an election that you literally vote against it happening you might as well just dissolve the party right now. At that point it's just over. There's no coming back from that lack of confidence and public humiliation.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 10:58 |
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welp
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:06 |
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forkboy84 posted:I think it's better that than the alternative. It really isn't. Considering how awful the current government is, Labour voting to keep them in power would be hosed for a generation.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:09 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:22 |
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Is there even a remote possibility that labour hasn't planned for this eventuality? I don't buy the "no advanced planning" at all.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:26 |
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Who's the twat on sky news talking about "I think the people in this country like democracy, they like to vote!" ?
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:30 |
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ElNarez posted:okay but what if this is the wake-up call and the Labour Right finally shuts the gently caress up and stands with Corbyn and the membership, if only for their own self-preservation? lol, good one!
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:31 |
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And so it begins https://twitter.com/benfenton/status/854275278100713473
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:35 |
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https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/854282618896044032
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:40 |
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Lord Twisted posted:No response yet from Labour. What a shower of loving incompetent fucktards. Lib dems and Greens have got a message out. Nice meltdown
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:40 |
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A statement was made less than 30 minutes after May finished her speech. If you think that's shambolic then you're just looking for something to be outraged by.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 11:51 |
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Labour right status: Still doing it's best to kill itself. https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/854286654651211776
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:05 |
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Stephen Kinnock was just on Sky News saying he was disappointed that May had called a GE
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:13 |
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Stephen Kinnock repeatedly refusing to endorse Corbyn despite being poked about it again and again. This will end well.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:16 |
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https://twitter.com/rowenamason/status/854293088671608833
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:20 |
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"If people want a strong opposition they need to vote Labour on June 8th" -Stephen Kinnock on BBC, yet again refusing to say anything about Corbyn despite being asked about him repeatedly.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:29 |
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hakimashou posted:If I were May I would do a TV debate. Let him debate that little lib dem gnome or tell Nicola Sturgeon how Scotland has to go down with the ship. Just say everyone knows where she stands, and everyone knows where he stands, and she's got a country to run. Best case he'd whine about not getting a debate. May is a horrible debater.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:48 |
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https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/854288607976312833
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 12:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:05 |
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https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/854285149063716864
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:07 |
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https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/854300033323343872
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:24 |
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TinTower posted:I'm glad you know so many Lib Dem members who go to Conference to say that with any certainty. The point is that it doesn't matter. We've all seen what the Lib dems do when they actually get power.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:29 |
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GaussianCopula posted:If that statement by Corbyn was "very prepared" I'm afraid what happens when they have to improvise. Oberleutnant posted:Get out you nazi oval office
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:31 |
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ, BBC https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/854308223838371840
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 13:35 |
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spectralent posted:If he actually votes for it, yes. As a Norwegian: Go gently caress yourself.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 14:26 |
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spectralent posted:You need 433 (or 434? Can't remember) votes for a snap general now and labour should be 229 against. That should only add up to 421. And then May forces it through anyway, which she can, and Labour gets completely erased as the party that was too afraid to even mount a challenge. Voting against a GE is not a thing the opposition can do if it wants to continue existing as a relevant political party.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 14:36 |
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spectralent posted:That way both sides look shambolic. Or at least they would if the press weren't fuckers, so I guess you're right. Why the gently caress would that make both sides look shambolic?
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 14:43 |
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forkboy84 posted:Sometimes pragmatism isn't actually the worst option. When the choice is between a guaranteed increased Tory majority or carrying on with the Tories having a shaky majority, gently caress optics. The British electorate have no memory, as the potential Lib Dem fight back is showing. Committing electoral suicide and guaranteeing 5 more years instead of 3 of Tory government is a bad idea, gently caress optics. This might be a useful argument if Labour could actually force the GE to not happen for 3 years. They can't.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:01 |
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Hardly surprising. May is loving dreadful at debates.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:44 |
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Zephro posted:Sigh. I'm going to have to vote Lib Dem because at this point I am a single-issue Buck Frexit voter. https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/854285149063716864
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:45 |
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Zephro posted:Labour is pro Brexit, and therefore dumb/poo poo In other words, you're a loving moron.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:52 |
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blowfish posted:gc may be a oval office but your schtick is getting old Nah
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 16:25 |
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jBrereton posted:For a guy who flipped out about someone using the term "quisling" you seem very happy to bring up the dim and distant past. I am perfectly happy about people using the term where it actually applies. GC is a nazi. Corbyn is not a Quisling for voting for a loving general election. Go gently caress yourself.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 16:29 |
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Private Eye posted:I'm out the loop. Why is GC a nazi? Mostly because of his opinions and political leanings.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 16:34 |
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/854352122640576512
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 16:46 |
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Whats happening?? https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/854361020147666944
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 16:52 |
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TinTower posted:In reality, the withdrawal agreement will just be a sheet of A4 with "gently caress the poors" in size 72, and Corbyn will um and ah for a minute before instituting a three-line whip on the Bill (with himself and Abbott suffering migraines as soon as the division bell rings). What reason will the libdems give to vote for it? After spending the entire election swearing to block it, I mean.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 17:04 |
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 01:41 |
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Oberleutnant posted:He was probably talking about the other times they lied. Actually I was asking about the future, but this works too.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 17:07 |