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Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
Signing on as the dainty daughter.

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Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
confirming

and going to bed.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
To be aboard this ship is to be at home.

HAWKE man, are you scum?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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100YrsofAttitude posted:

Confirming, that I'll be back later this afternoon.

To tell the truth, I don't think I've ever played a game with Infinitum. Is this S.O.P these days?

I wouldn't say so, but it seems to be a trend recently developing.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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:lol:

FWIW though, I do feel this Infi turbo is kinda scrumby. Ecco has out of games reasons to policy lynch Inf, but would Ecco bring that into a maf game? I dunno, I need to read this game over a but but I'm at work. Will be home in a few hours (plus I have two other games going, is there a Mafia addicts support group somewhere?)

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Somberbrero posted:

if you're one of the eleven people not voting infinitum, can you explain why? i'm not saying that it's unequivocally the right choice, i'd just like to hear the explanation.

Personally I feel like jokephaize votes that aren't discussed and that actually turn into turbos are bad. Like Keane mentioned, there's really no substantial basis behind it. I can understand if it's a personal policy thing, but I don't have a vote Infi D1 policy that I adhere to baring some outrageous scum slip or something so anti-town that it can't go unpunished.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Somberbrero posted:

can you explain WHY they are bad vote?


Dick Bastardly posted:

Personally I feel like jokephaize votes that aren't discussed and that actually turn into turbos are bad. Like Keane mentioned, there's really no substantial basis behind it. I can understand if it's a personal policy thing, but I don't have a vote Infi D1 policy that I adhere to baring some outrageous scum slip or something so anti-town that it can't go unpunished.

I'm not going to spoon feed you again. poo poo, I'm the child on this ship, SPOONFEED ME.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Somberbrero posted:

you're not hearing me. i'll break it down when i get home.

you used to be such a sweet boy.

I look forward to it.

I'M STILL SWEET drat IT. poo poo.

got some chores tonight posted:

drat i forgot dickbastardly was my child good thing i dont love her

:unsmith:

How could you not love this face? I've been told I have your eyes.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

got some chores tonight posted:

chapo skipped the most important line "As you grow and change, Caleb, Mama and I have to make changes in the way we treat you. For example, you have chores now."

wow i dont think im jeff jacoby i think i stole his child


got some chores tonight posted:

is this how caleb ends up in ny

after getting kidnapped by captain chores

:gonk:

M-M-Mommy?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Yeah that's right, I have two moms. So there.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Somberbrero posted:

no, now you are my spiteful son.


i'm not saying that day one discussion is never useful. town nailed scum in Over The Garden Wall day one. However, what's happening with inf is way more interesting than anything else right now. Just because the vote started as a joke/turbo whatever doesn't mean the results aren't interesting or valid. for instance


yeah, absolutely. when i say i want an explanation of why people aren't voting inf, this is why. like, sure you can chill and try to drum up other discussion, but there are a lot of inferences you can draw from this aggressive voting pattern and dismissing it out of hand is no good.

That's a lot to read into from this


Somberbrero posted:

can you explain WHY they are bad vote?

but, never the less I do see your point. I'm sorry for being a brat :kiddo:

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Somber, can you explain why voting Inf is a good vote?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Moatillata posted:

Also please use a nautical analogy for the infinitum lynch the trashcan one is ruining my immersion

*ahem* excuse me, my apologies.

Can Somber please explain why keelhauling Inf is a good thing to do?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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got some chores tonight posted:

actually lets not i dont care for salads

Have you tried Octopus Salad? I think you'd enjoy it, it's squishy.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Moatillata posted:

Dick is this some kind of strange omen baby situation where you are in fact the devil-child and ruler of the scum

Because i feel like there is some kind of crazy plot twist in this tale

I just... I feel bad for Inf. I just want someone to tell me why it's a good idea to vote.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Pinterest Mom posted:

You discern alignment from behaviour. We know in advance that Inf is not going to play to town's win con. We should vote him out now, when it's low-pressure and low-consequence, rather than be stuck on day 5 and asking ourselves "is this town anti-town Inf or scum anti-town Inf"

Ok, I can get behind this. If it looks like Infs number is up I'll vote/hammer.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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pmom's explanation makes perfect sense for me. I wasn't really thinking about how Inf's likely future posting factors into it, I was more concerned with the push itself. Do you think I'm too easily persuaded?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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There's a reason I didn't just throw down a vote. We have plenty of time to discus which is what I think we should do. All I said was I'd vote and/or hammer if it looked like that's the way D1 is going. I think Pmom's explanation was good.

chores, moat

What are your opinions of Pmom's reasoning?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

got some chores tonight posted:

im not playing your game im your father slash kidnapper i dont answer your questions

but, but, but DAAAAAAAAD! :colbert:

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Moatillata posted:

Not particularly taking it at face value atm.

I just didnt like how ecco excused herself for day

Also DB pmom seems sincere to me

How do you feel about chores?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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chores, why did you vote Infi? 'Tis a simple request for a simple answer.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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I don't like how chores is dodging my questions.

100 yrs does seem a bit.. put on? But I've never played with said player before so I'm not sure if my feelings are accurate.

So far I feel like Inf's own defense does make a decent point.

##vote chores

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

got some chores tonight posted:

i wasnt aware you asked me a question but the answer is probably that youre an idiot

It's ok, just keep dodging scum.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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100, is the chance that you may be doing scum's bidding by mislynching Inf an acceptable risk to do a favor for a friend?

What is your take on Ecco's alignment so far ?

Do you think Ecco's beef with Inf is reasonable?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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EccoRaven posted:

no he doesn't.

I disagree. Inf's "content" may be off the mark most of the time, but I think it can lend to provoking thoughts. Specifically, I like to take Inf's lumpen lists and literally flip them upside down so that his town reads become his scum reads. That seems to end up being more accurate.

100, feel free to answer my questions for you on your own behalf.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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*Ecco poison's Capt Chores meal tonight*

Sweet dreams..heh heh...

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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The chores/Ecco exchange feels fake to me.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

Oh yeah? Well... YOUR NOT MY REAL DAD, SO THERE!

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!
I'm not feeling the Slamburger push.

It's two joke-votes and a me too.

The only case on Slamburger I can gather that has any basis in his/her posting is his/her initiation of the flavor discussion. I'm not sure the direction that burger tried to go in with that thought made him/her look good, but there are more posts that look like burger contributing to scum-hunting. There just aren't any votes that have a clearly defined case or thought out reasoning behind them. All in all, I'm leaning town with burger and disagree with the basis of the push so far.

I think TNL has more to read into about flavor than anything that came about from burger's post. To be clear, I'm not reading TNL one way or the other on alignment, but I can say that there's a theme with TNL's posts that I'm picking up on. I just don't know what to make of it yet.

I think Ecco and 100 are possible scumbros, with chores rounding out the bottom of that list. Ecco inviting 100 along to vote with her seems to be a way of distancing their relationship to one another, and how 100 had explained his/her vote as a favor to Ecco feels like more back-handed distancing.

Chores is more of a gut feeling for me, coupled with avoiding my questions, it doesn't sit well with me. I'm willing to admit that this my just be a tunnel forming because chores is difficult to read. My vote was probably impulsive and lacking a solid foundation at this time.

I just don't buy Ecco's sincerity in regard to the Inf dunk. I think if Ecco is playing to town's win condition, then she'd whether out the storm of Inf's bad posting and put more effort into actual scum-hunting rather than a policy dunk.

##vote Ecco

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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EccoRaven posted:

this entire paragraphs is nonsense by the way. "they're distancing from each other by very visibly colluding."

this is not a sensible position to take.

On the contrary, it's the way in which the collusion is portrayed. The actual collusion is occurring in the scum doc, so a facade must be fabricated to give the illusion that non such collusion has occurred.

Ecco: "Do me this favor in which it is visible in this here thread that I am asking this of you and you will agree of your own accord, having no ties to me in any way"

100: "yes, I shall agree to do you this favor while simultaneously acknowledging the fact that this push is not necessarily contrived on a notion of a pro-town play, I mean... it's possible Ecco is scum and I'd be saddened by the betrayal of trust if Inf flips town"

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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got some chores tonight posted:

whats your question dingus

See below:

Dick Bastardly posted:

pmom's explanation makes perfect sense for me. I wasn't really thinking about how Inf's likely future posting factors into it, I was more concerned with the push itself. Do you think I'm too easily persuaded?

Dick Bastardly posted:

chores, why did you vote Infi? 'Tis a simple request for a simple answer.

Dick Bastardly posted:

There's a reason I didn't just throw down a vote. We have plenty of time to discus which is what I think we should do. All I said was I'd vote and/or hammer if it looked like that's the way D1 is going. I think Pmom's explanation was good.

chores, moat

What are your opinions of Pmom's reasoning?

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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100YrsofAttitude posted:

Is that how I should start talking to be better understood?

:smug:

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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EccoRaven posted:

this is not how scum talk to each other. nobody talks this way.

Scum communicate with each other outside the thread but never inside it. If they ever mention another scum player it is indirectly - talking about someone else's case, or talking about some other aspect of the game that only incidentally addresses their scumbuddy.

This is because, subconsciously, scum know that they don't need to communicate in-thread. If they want to collude they just do it OOT. Likewise scum are afraid of connecting themselves in-thread to another scum player, since they know, very reasonably, if either of them ever die, the obvious connection is the next step.


It's a nonsense opinion, DB. If you think 100yrs is scum that's great, and if you think I'm scum too, oh well, but connecting us before either of us have flipped (and even worse making that the focal point of your vote!) is not good play.

And I know something about good play. (Vote infinitum.)

The first bold portion of text above is the same reasoning why I have my theory about you and 100's exchange in regard to the Inf push.

The second bold portion of text above is not true as demonstrated below:

EccoRaven posted:

I just don't buy Ecco's sincerity in regard to the Inf dunk. I think if Ecco is playing to town's win condition, then she'd whether out the storm of Inf's bad posting and put more effort into actual scum-hunting rather than a policy dunk.

##vote Ecco

This is the focal point of my vote (nice try though)

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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I will admit the first point (about you and 100's interaction) is a bit WIFOMY but I still stand by it.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Something went wrong with my copy pasta and it made the last quote look like an ecco quote, but that is my vote I quoted obviously. I'm getting tied up at work, I should be around for dead line. Hopefully well before.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

got some chores tonight posted:

if you dont already know i cant help you

You couldn't be bothered to answer then so I can't expect you to now. It doesn't help me feel better about you however. I know you don't care and that's fine.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Pinterest Mom posted:

You understood and agreed with the logic when I explained it to you, but now you're voting Ecco for it?

I'll re-read and address this when I get home, but I am not really following you here :shrug:

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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EccoRaven posted:

hey DB address my response to your case.

I will later. I have work stuff, then a drive home.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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EccoRaven posted:

PMom explained why voting for Infinitum is good for the town (it's because he's a poo poo player and he needs to stop playing mafia).

I have said similarly, but then you vote me for it because "ecco wouldn't do that!" (which ignores that I would and have).

Yes. Ok, so as I've stated before, I understand policy voting. I just don't believe you on this one. From my post agreeing with pmom to now I've changed my mind about voting Inf. I think avoiding no-Lynch is probably the only vote I'll give Inf today. OK I'm gone for real. I'll be on for deadline.

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Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

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Mr. F! posted:

I'd rather no lynch

:eyepop:

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