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Dabir posted:As the planet got further and further into space, the surface became uninhabitable, so the few remaining Mondasians went underground. As they couldn't afford to lose people, they kept everyone going by replacing damaged parts, first with organic parts from the dead, then with cybernetic prostheses. After a while, it got to the point that anyone who saw the sky for the first time, after a lifetime underground, went mad immediately. And I believe, according to Spare Parts (canon until potentially proven otherwise by this week's episode), this major shift happened around the equivalent of their early-mid 20th century. Technology from that time remained and stagnated because all innovation instead had to go into that whole 'not dying in the cold expanse of space' thing.
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The_Doctor posted:The awkward sister series is coming back to Big Finish! Holy poo poo, they recast Dayna! Guess they finally gave up on Josette Simon. Now we can get proper Season 4 episodes with the Scorpio! 
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Cleretic posted:And I believe, according to Spare Parts (canon until potentially proven otherwise by this week's episode), this major shift happened around the equivalent of their early-mid 20th century. Technology from that time remained and stagnated because all innovation instead had to go into that whole 'not dying in the cold expanse of space' thing. Yeah, in Spare Parts the city is described as looking like 1950s London, if I remember rightly.
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Look up Cyberleader David Banks' book "Cybermen" from the 90s if you want to see someone explain away and label all the various evolutions of the Cybermen.
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Very minor spoiler I'll bring over from the spoiler thread, the singsong Mondasian voices are apparently unchanged
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Well I think I know where this season's production budget has gone. This will probably mean they spent next to nothing on effects: https://www.space.com/37295-possible-planet-10.html quote:Planet 10? Another Earth-Size World May Lurk in the Outer Solar System  Way to overdo the publicity Moffat jeez! 
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I just discovered the song Tallulah sings in Daleks in Manhattan has a reprise in the End of Time during the Doctor's scene with Captain Jack 
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Jun 23, 2017 04:34
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I unironically really like that song
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Jun 23, 2017 04:37
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I'm rewatching the first series and while both of the farting aliens episodes are bad (someone said one of them was good?), they're easier to watch, because you can say "Well, they're annoying, but this is probably a better government than a theoretical Theresa May/DUP alliance.
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They're both good.
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Jun 23, 2017 07:47
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there's three two parter intro and boom town boom town get really, really good after the fart and poop jokes stop. "Only a killer would know that."
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SiKboy posted:How hard can it possibly be to get fake rocks that arent obviously fake? Because that was some big grey polystyrene bullshit right there. Apart from that episode was pretty okay. And took me a minute to recognise "tell that to kanjiklub" as one of the romans. Somewhere between 'really hard' and 'not possible' hard.
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I'm really bummed that we're probably only going to have two more episodes with Bill in them. I've really enjoyed her character and she could have used used some more time on the show.
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Is she definitely not in the Christmas episode?all-Rush mixtape posted:I just discovered the song Tallulah sings in Daleks in Manhattan has a reprise in the End of Time during the Doctor's scene with Captain Jack Another fun music fact: the remix of Don't Stop Me Now from Mummy On The Orient Express is playing in the diner at the start of Hell Bent
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Jun 23, 2017 12:00
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She's not even definitely leaving, as far as I know, it's just a (pretty credible) rumor.
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Jun 23, 2017 12:09
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If she doesn't leave, I'll be very surprised. Chibnall seems to want to draw a complete line under the Moffat era.
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echoplex posted:Somewhere between 'really hard' and 'not possible' hard. Any chance of an explanation? Rock sets have always bothered me as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKAO8H8qv1A Hm...laser vs sonic This should be good
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The_Doctor posted:If she doesn't leave, I'll be very surprised. Chibnall seems to want to draw a complete line under the Moffat era. Given the rumors about the Christmas special, I suspect they had a clean exit planned from the start. If they do, I hope they don't rollback things like they did with Clara even though I like Bill.
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Mokinokaro posted:Given the rumors about the Christmas special, I suspect they had a clean exit planned from the start. Chris Chibnall promises to be a strong and stable showrunner because Moffxit means Moffxit. <CUT TO 2018 - ARLENE FOSTER IS THE THIRTEENTH DOCTOR>
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Jun 23, 2017 15:30
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Just use real rocks. Are there no quarries left?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv22tftlCWU If we don't get a scene half as just Amazing As this This up coming episode will be a total wash. Just, everyone is so out rages and furious, and the Cyberman could not give less of a poo poo if he wanted. "Age? Age? Age?"
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Facebook Aunt posted:Just use real rocks. Are there no quarries left? Real rocks get drat heavy and unwieldy and moving them is expensive.
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Jun 24, 2017 01:38
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And no-one wants to try lighting caves with a basic BBC OB unit.
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NPR Journalizard posted:Real rocks get drat heavy and unwieldy and moving them is expensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0bCSLx8JI
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Astroman posted:Holy poo poo, they recast Dayna! Guess they finally gave up on Josette Simon. I was worried for a bit there, the B7 lot seem so weird about putting something out.
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https://twitter.com/morganjeffery/status/878282263670046720 Here's a link to a fun little piece looking back on the history of Big Finish, and their relationship with the BBC. Amusing that Moffat was at the initial meeting between Briggs and the BBC, but walked out
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So not having an exhaustive knowledge of the original run, the Mondasian cybermen are an entirely different unconnected species from later Cybermen?
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Senor Tron posted:So not having an exhaustive knowledge of the original run, the Mondasian cybermen are an entirely different unconnected species from later Cybermen? It was explained a bit ago, but basically, the Mondasian Cybermen are the O.G. Cybermen. The Cybermen that were around for most of the later series and the non-alternate-universe new series ones were 'Telos Cybermen'. They're basically a direct ancestor though, Telos was colonized by the Cybermen back when they were the 'Mondasian Cybermen' and they became that more familiar shape after that. So the Mondasians are more like version 1.0 of a series that we're largely familiar with from 3.0 onward.
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jivjov posted:https://twitter.com/morganjeffery/status/878282263670046720 Reading that, I don't think that meeting was with the beeb, I think it was just them asking a load of writers to pitch to them. Interesting that Moffat only wanted to write for 8 considering how much of a 5 fan he is.
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Fil5000 posted:Reading that, I don't think that meeting was with the beeb, I think it was just them asking a load of writers to pitch to them. Interesting that Moffat only wanted to write for 8 considering how much of a 5 fan he is. It's pretty clear now that Moffat wanted to write stories that left a mark on the character, and the best way to do that is with the most recent incarnation. There was likely an understanding on the part of everyone involved that big continuity and character changing stuff was not likely going to be part of stories told about the Doctors who have already had their run. You want to leave your prints on the show, it has to be on the version of the show that has yet to be completely defined.
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Moffat actually talked about this in a DWM. BF had invited him, along with other writers, to pitch ideas, and Moffat candidly admitted to walking out early after telling them that the whole project was doomed to fail. He then admitted that he couldn't believe how stupid he had been and hoped that they would welcome him back when things like Coupling and Jekyll, and Doctor Who got in the way.
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ewe2 posted:I was worried for a bit there, the B7 lot seem so weird about putting something out. With Gareth dying and Paul Darrow's health taking a turn for the worse I figured they had given up on the range. It's a shame Josette won't give BF a chance to show her how they can redeem the character she detests so much, particularly as she's worked with them on other stuff but now we can revisit literally half the show which before could only be done with "Dana is missing or back at base" stories. Now if Lidster could just get over his odd "we can't recast people on Dark Shadows" hangup (which is particularly dumb since American soaps do that ALL THE TIME) we can have some stories with Roger, Elizabeth, Julia, Professor Stokes, and proper Barnabas.
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Darrow is usually the fly in the ointment because he owns important rights, so I just figured he'd called a halt to it all. It's interesting that he changed his mind.
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And here we... go.
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That's a big loving ship!
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That was a pretty good space vfx. I like it!
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"You're probably handsome, aren't you?" 
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I'm digging missy taking the piss out of the core premise of the show.
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Very meta, Exposition and Comic Relief.
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