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Excelzior posted:so how long until the PLP attempts to coup Corbyn for "failing" to win the election? A very long time. Any leadership challenge would go to membership vote and the membership right now views Corbyn as the second coming of Attlee. Corbyn is more secure in his position than he's ever been and based on what they're saying to the media the PLP seem to get this
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Jun 10, 2017 01:10
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Shear Modulus posted:i read somewhere that the bill clinton campaign purposefully claimed blue to show they weren't lefties or old-style new deal dems CBS used blue for dems since 1984, but the colour scheme never became standardized until 2000
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Jun 10, 2017 01:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:
Don't know if he said anything, but the word is that he voted Labour.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:13
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Goodwin, eat the book.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:14
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Raeg posted:Goodwin, eat the book. https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/873242860467912705 keep screaming, don't give up
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Jun 10, 2017 01:15
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DMCrimson posted:https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/873242860467912705 EAT THE
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Jun 10, 2017 01:16
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Raeg posted:Goodwin, eat the book.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:17
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presumably the PLP opposition contains all of people genuinely opposed to left politics on principle, people who just believed it couldn't work, and also people who think they are the one but are actually the other disillusioned former firebrands and careerists in deep with the City are going to have different reactions to the viability of left politics being proved. some of the mea culpas are cover-ups and some are genuine
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Jun 10, 2017 01:25
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Truly amazing
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Jun 10, 2017 01:26
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Peel posted:presumably the PLP opposition contains all of people genuinely opposed to left politics on principle, people who just believed it couldn't work, and also people who think they are the one but are actually the other My point is they wouldn't be saying this stuff if they thought they had a hope in hell of unseating him
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Jun 10, 2017 01:28
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Don't know if he said anything, but the word is that he voted Labour. no way he did
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Jun 10, 2017 01:42
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https://twitter.com/jeremyforlab/status/873235240692715522
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Jun 10, 2017 01:43
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how in the loving gently caress did Tories win seats in Scotland? last king of scotland, indeed 
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Jun 10, 2017 01:54
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BarronsArtGallery posted:how in the loving gently caress did Tories win seats in Scotland? Labour/SNP/Lib Dem vote splitting for the most part
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Jun 10, 2017 01:56
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BarronsArtGallery posted:how in the loving gently caress did Tories win seats in Scotland? apparently the answer is very easily considering libdems managed to snag quite a few as well e: libdem != tories Bulgogi Hoagie has issued a correction as of 02:07 on Jun 10, 2017 |
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Jun 10, 2017 01:58
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More specifically it seems like the right of the SNP defected to the Tories while the left remained loyal
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Jun 10, 2017 01:58
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Gum posted:Labour/SNP/Lib Dem vote splitting for the most part thanks jk rowling
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Jun 10, 2017 01:59
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Gum posted:A very long time. Any leadership challenge would go to membership vote and the membership right now views Corbyn as the second coming of Attlee. Corbyn is more secure in his position than he's ever been and based on what they're saying to the media the PLP seem to get this Yeah its shut up and kiss the ring time for the PLP and all the doubters and detractors including me.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:59
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BarronsArtGallery posted:how in the loving gently caress did Tories win seats in Scotland? Scotland is actually bad it turns out.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:59
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:apparently the answer is very easily considering conservatives managed to snag quite a few as well I don't get why it is but it seems like every time the Conservatives gain seats the Tories do as well
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Jun 10, 2017 01:59
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LinYutang posted:The Dems also gained seats in 2016 but the election was seen as a disaster no you just don't know like anything about anything
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Jun 10, 2017 02:00
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Gum posted:More specifically it seems like the right of the SNP defected to the Tories while the left remained loyal any chance the lefty snp's just merge with labor gor the next vote? and would that get them a majority?
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Jun 10, 2017 02:07
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Gum posted:I don't get why it is but it seems like every time the Conservatives gain seats the Tories do as well in my friday slumber i have managed to equate tories and libdems, an easy mistake to make
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Jun 10, 2017 02:08
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got any sevens posted:any chance the lefty snp's just merge with labor gor the next vote? and would that get them a majority? Scottish labour would have to be remotely left to begin with. It's a stronghold of Blairism. Also the marches have always leaned right, that they broke SNP was almost weird.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:14
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Jun 10, 2017 02:16
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Shear Modulus posted:i read somewhere that the bill clinton campaign purposefully claimed blue to show they weren't lefties or old-style new deal dems actually the traditional colors in American elections resembled that of the rest of the world up until 2000. just take a look at http://uselectionatlas.org/ (one of my fav data mines)
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Jun 10, 2017 02:24
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:apparently the answer is very easily considering libdems managed to snag quite a few as well i know that, you (i've always wanted to say this in an argument) massive twat edit: oh, you hosed up not me... 
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Jun 10, 2017 02:28
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hey, so if anyone is feeling like their one tiny insignificant little vote is pointless and won't change anything, so what's the point of this voting thing anyway: Arfon; Plaid Cymru majority of 3,668 in 2015  Glasgow East; SNP majority of 8,387 in 2015  Glasgow South West, SNP majority of 9,950 in 2015  Crewe & Nantwich; Conservative majority of 3,620 in 2015  Richmond Park; Conservative majority of 23,025 in 2015[/b[  Southampton Itchen; Conservative majority of 2,316 in 2015  Newcastle-Under-Lyme; Labour majority of 650 in 2015  Dudley North; Labour majority of 4,011 in 2015  Perth & North Perthshire; SNP majority of 9,641 in 2015  [b]Fife North East; SNP majority of 4,344 in 2015  so just get out there and vote anyway because politics is insane now and anything can happen and maybe your one vote is the one that defeats some hideous ghoul!
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Jun 10, 2017 02:32
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BarronsArtGallery posted:i know that, you (i've always wanted to say this in an argument) massive twat at least i deserved that lmao
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Jun 10, 2017 02:33
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:e: libdem = tories 
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Jun 10, 2017 02:34
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q from a yank here: how much do individual candidates' politics and personalities factor in to people's voting vs. just party affiliation for people casting votes in their constituencies?
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Jun 10, 2017 02:45
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:q from a yank here: how much do individual candidates' politics and personalities factor in to people's voting vs. just party affiliation for people casting votes in their constituencies? it's party loyalty, party leader charisma, local mp candidate charisma, in this order from most to least important
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Jun 10, 2017 02:47
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:q from a yank here: how much do individual candidates' politics and personalities factor in to people's voting vs. just party affiliation for people casting votes in their constituencies? personally i was reasonably fine with labour, lib dem, snp in my constituency. i voted SNP because 1) i like my SNP MP, 2) the labour (and conservative) candidates did not live in my constituency, wheras the SNP member has for 25ish years. considering the advertising during the election i assume i'm an abnormality.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:32
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BarronsArtGallery posted:how in the loving gently caress did Tories win seats in Scotland? Nicola Sturgeon has been pushing IndyRef2 despite support for it plummeting leading to unionist SNP voters, who were apparently a thing, being scared off for fear of their vote for the SNP being seen as an endorsement of a second referendum. The Tories had already managed to better position themselves as the party of the union before Sturgeon claimed the leader of ScotLab supported another referendum, pushing more unionists in that direction. SNP voters are single issue voters who handed the election to the Tories. If so-called socialist SNP voters truly are socialists, they need to switch to Labour and elect an actual left wing government because independence isn't happening. They can also kick the lovely Blairites out of power in ScotLab while they're at it.
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Jun 10, 2017 03:46
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BarronsArtGallery posted:actually the traditional colors in American elections resembled that of the rest of the world up until 2000. that site uses blue for the gop / red for the dems for everything up to & including 2016, tho? not sure what part of the site you wanted to point to...
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Jun 10, 2017 04:26
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Why is the map mostly blue compared to the other maps?
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Jun 10, 2017 05:13
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ThndrShk2k posted:Why is the map mostly blue compared to the other maps? because the first map is actually what it looks like and the second is just re-proportioned to make it more readable
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Jun 10, 2017 05:15
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actually the uk is one giant settlers of catan map and every constituency is an equally-sized hexagon
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Jun 10, 2017 05:46
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~Insert sheep for wood joke~
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