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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Creamed Cormp posted:

Still in the Run:
- Marine Le Pen : even though I agree with her anti-EU and anti-immigration opinions (at least superficially), imho she's a piece of trash. Her party was funded by literal Holocaust deniers and nazi collaborationists, and she owes most of her success to protest voters who don't necessarily agree with her party on all things, but feel betrayed by the other mainstream parties, which is why I can't really be too mad at her voters, they are mostly honest people in a terrible spot with very few politicians listening to them. Her party core and its history is nothing but trash, corruption and either gross incompetence or malice.
- Macron : globalist piece of trash, I despise him and everything he stands for. The kind of investment banker that will fire 15000 workers in an afternoon to keep the global capitalist class happy, but will say something nice about transgender people or islam once in a while so he can still feel like he is a good person. Was strangely pushed by the media as the "man that will save us all" even though he had little support, experience or accomplishments, which kind of makes me wonder if there couldn't be such a thing as moneyed interest pushing their candidates through the many media corporations they own so they could remain in control... nah that's just crazy.

The other guys:
-Nathalie Arthaud : ultra left, self avowed commie
-Jean Lasalle : honestly I don't even know what the gently caress that guy wanted.
-Philippe Poutou : other ultra left, from a literal anti-capitalist party. Basically slam dunked motherfuckers all night long during a TV debate, so I rather like him but a bit too idealistic on some aspects of his program (for instance wanted police to be unarmed). Also "un poutou" is familiar speak for "a kiss".
-François Fillon : the eternal motherfucking piece of scum. Just when we got rid of Sarkozy, we got this fucker. Corrupt to the bone, scammer and liar, I can't wait until the revolutionnary red guard executes him. Still had a very dedicated core of true believers around him that believed in the same things he did : hardcore capitalism, conservative catholicism, discreet antisemitism.
-Benoit Hamon : the official "socialist" candidate. Poor bastard, people even thought he had a chance even though our current president (also a socialist) is at like 5% approval. And democrats thought Trump was hated lmao.
-Jacques Cheminade : our eternal Larouchite candidate. Yeah. (I still give him props for never giving up)
-Jean Luc Melenchon : between the socialists and ultra-left. Left wing, but against the EU that he sees as a fundamentally capitalist institution made to benefit the european capitalist elite, which to be honest, I don't disagree with. I voted for him mainly because of that even though I disagree with his intentions to legalize weed and remain sceptical on whether or not writing a new constitution would be that much of a good thing, but eh, worth a try. Massive youth support.
-François Asselineau : far right, but got very little votes. Not really familiar with all his views, but he wanted to leave the EU.
-Nicolas Dupont-Aignan : right wing, claims the heritage of Gaullism and is in favor of national sovereignty (is that even the right word? gently caress it), can't say that I agree with him on everything, but he does seem to be honest-ish, so that's already that he has other the rest of the right-wing.

Most likely gonna sit out the second round of the elections, gently caress it, never gonna vote for a globalist or a piece of poo poo.

lmao, so basically a crazy Trump-like canidate vs a banker loving Hillary all over again.

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fat bossy gerbil
Jul 1, 2007

Creamed Cormp posted:

I voted for him mainly because of that even though I disagree with his intentions to legalize weed
Good writeup but wtf man?

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

etalian posted:

lmao, so basically a crazy Trump-like canidate vs a banker loving Hillary all over again.

Yes, and also no: Macron is still more left wing than Clinton (like if I was in a classic "you're stuck in a room with Macron and Clinton. You have a gun and 1 round" situation, while I'd still try to line them up because I'm a very smart person, I'd put Clinton first to at least guarantee killing her at all costs, even if it means only wounding Macron) and while Trump is a nationalist, he is I think more of a civic nationalist* while Le Pen is more of an ethnic nationalist (not pure ethnic, but enough of one). Small difference but it would matter to me.



* I'm speaking of Trump as a candidate, god knows what the man is thinking now.

edit : to answer the dude with the cool skeleton av, from a moral point of view I'm against legalization, even though I'd be in favor from a purely practical point of view if there was a clear plan on how it was going to be sold, for how much, what taxes, how to prevent and discourage use by teenagers and so on. I'm not entirely opposed to it, I just want to know what we're getting into and I didn't hear a lot about it during the campaign (admitedly I didn't exactly go look for the information either).

Creamed Cormp fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Apr 24, 2017

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Creamed Cormp posted:

* I'm speaking of Trump as a candidate, god knows what the man is thinking now.

he doesn't

Drunk & Ugly
Feb 10, 2003

GIMME GIMME GIMME, DON'T ASK WHAT FOR

fat bossy gerbil posted:

Good writeup but wtf man?

yea, wtf. this guy sounds like a moron

why are you a moron corncream

skeletonotherkin
Sep 26, 2014

Rutibex posted:

france enlightenment values resulted in 17,000 people being guilloteaned and the conquest of europe

How was this a bad thing?

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Creamed Cormp posted:

gently caress it, never gonna vote for a globalist or a piece of poo poo.

:thumbsup:

basement jihadist
Oct 3, 2002

henkman posted:

Another GBS thread where people misuse "neoliberal"

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

skeletonotherkin posted:

How was this a bad thing?

Other values, making sure carts would drive on the right side of the road unlike those dumb brits

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Sticking it to the establishment by voting nazi is like burning your house down because you have a bad insurance policy. Yet somehow it has remained popular everywhere.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

sean10mm posted:

Sticking it to the establishment by voting nazi is like burning your house down because you have a bad insurance policy. Yet somehow it has remained popular everywhere.

It's more like burning your underwater house down to spite the bank

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Creamed Cormp posted:

you're a piece of garbage on so many levels it's unbelievable the trash collection services in your city haven't yet sent you to an incinerator.

why you so angry? lol a troll post about immigrants makes you that mad huh? no wonder you're gonna vote for le pen

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Creamed Cormp posted:


* I'm speaking of Trump as a candidate, god knows what the man is thinking now.


He's currently worried that Canadian dairy cows are going to bring down the country.

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Globalist whose victory speech was in front of the EU flag vs nationalist whose speech was in front of the French flag.

Gee this is a tough one!

gently caress the EU.

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
please accept my patron country of Albania into the EU, the rest of you have hosed the Shqiptar people over long enough

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Piss de Bundy posted:

why you so angry? lol a troll post about immigrants makes you that mad huh? no wonder you're gonna vote for le pen

lol u mad bro?

ahahah have some bacon lol

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Creamed Cormp posted:

lol u mad bro?

ahahah have some bacon lol

what is this even supposed to mean? do the fact that arabs live in france anger you?

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

I think the EU is good and not bad.

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Piss de Bundy posted:

what is this even supposed to mean? do the fact that arabs live in france anger you?

No, being against people of a particular ethnic background is absurd and morally wrong, we all know that.

Islam is poo poo though, and its values are incompatible with ours. hth

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
If you're still doing questions, what's your honest take on the EU and where do you think it'll be by 2020?

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

Tortured By Flan

BONGHITZ posted:

I think the EU is good and not bad.

I think it's good and bad at the same time.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

BONGHITZ posted:

I think the EU is good and not bad.

I'm sure the Greeks would agree with your mindset.

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
The EU is bad because

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Cool to see the gbs nazis are posting in force.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Streak posted:

The EU is bad because

single currency without fiscal unity.

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

etalian posted:

single currency without fiscal unity.

The only country to leave the EU doesn't even use the euro

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Streak posted:

The only country to leave the EU doesn't even use the euro

But a majority of them did which set up a very interesting situation.

Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

etalian posted:

But a majority of them did which set up a very interesting situation.

Which is

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Creamed Cormp posted:

No, being against people of a particular ethnic background is absurd and morally wrong, we all know that.

Islam is poo poo though, and its values are incompatible with ours. hth

Kill the Muslim to save the Arab?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Streak posted:

Which is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S31VLG8Qi78

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
after that I'm off to bed so I will try to keep it short :

As I see it, the EU started as a good idea that served a noble goal : get all the various european countries to trade and work together so they don't try and start yet another world war leading to the death of millions. However, along the way it got turned into a powerful and rather un-democratic superstate that serves the capitalist elites, and it would make sense for France to either leave it or change how the EU works (though that might well be impossible). Obviously leaving the EU doesn't mean giving up on european values, nor does it mean I wouldn't still consider other european nations to be our dear friends and brothers, just, you know, we don't feel like it's really working as it should right now.

By 2020 either there will have been massive reforms to EU institutions, or the EU will be a massive joke that nobody respects. Obviously, I'm not an expert geopolitician or anything and this is just my opinion.

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Agag posted:

Kill the Muslim to save the Arab?

lmao who said anything about killing, paranoid much? just don't come here, it's fine, you still have a lot of wonderful muslim majority countries to visit and have fun in like Saudi Arabia, Iran or Somalia!

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Creamed Cormp posted:

even though I disagree with his intentions to legalize weed

motherfucker did you just say you don't want legal weed?

gently caress outta here

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Creamed Cormp posted:

lmao who said anything about killing, paranoid much? just don't come here, it's fine, you still have a lot of wonderful muslim majority countries to visit and have fun in like Saudi Arabia, Iran or Somalia!

Its a North American expression referring to a deliberate policy of cultural genocide, not murder, though come to think of it there were also a lot of murders.

But you're the enlightened type and you don't want to do anything like that. Just keep them out altogether, its someone else's problem.

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Germany now controls Europe and they didn't even have to fire a single shot this time. Smart mother fuckers.

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Prorat posted:

Germany now controls Europe and they didn't even have to fire a single shot this time. Smart mother fuckers.

A homeless guy once said this exact thing to me word-for-word as I was waiting to cross the street.

Bubble Bobby
Jan 28, 2005
Interesting perspective from a cool guy who hates weed and muslims

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country
vote for the crook not the fascist pt.2

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/856253507392999424

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Agag posted:

A homeless guy once said this exact thing to me word-for-word as I was waiting to cross the street.

I killed that bum for sport op

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