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TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

They even show the original mirror scene in, what, the first new episode? They wouldn't do that unless there was a reason for it.

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


TheMaestroso posted:

They even show the original mirror scene in, what, the first new episode? They wouldn't do that unless there was a reason for it.

Yes. They also show Booper and BOB sitting next to each other laughing in the same scene.

edit: Even the Twin Peaks Wiki says BOB and Booper are two different entities,

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at Jun 22, 2017 around 21:55

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


lol Jesus Christ. A literal scene of a formerly good, but now evildoing man's face morphing into the face of an evil spirit who possesses people to make them do evil. What could be going on here? I know, BEEEEEEES

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

There's not really an "even" there, the people who edit wikis are the same people debating on forums.

Every time someone says Booper, I picture him pushing on someone's stomach and saying "boop".

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


You dumb motherfucker, that was obviously a metaphor for hive minds that I was using. No wonder you guys can't read the drat show.

Anyway, from David Lynch himself:

It seems, though, that the world you’re presenting outside of Twin Peaks is a place gone bad due to the roaming spirit of this evil Cooper. What are we calling this character, by the way? I’m calling him Dirty Cooper.
Lynch: I just call him Cooper’s doppelgänger. You’re allowed to call him whatever you want.

Source

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


Franch why do you keep doing this to yourself?

Anyways my interpretation is that BOB is inhabiting Evil Coop. But he's definitely inside of there somewhere, is the main point

Escobarbarian fucked around with this message at Jun 22, 2017 around 22:06

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment.


Escobarbarian posted:

Franch why do you keep doing this to yourself?

Anyways my interpretation is that BOB is inhabiting Evil Coop. But he's definitely inside of there somewhere, is the main point

I dunno. I keep thinking some actual worthwhile discussion might occur at some point.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004



What the hell? Lynch has gone painstakingly out of his way to establish on more than one occasion that "Cooper's Doppleganger" is a separate entity distinct from BOB, who is currently playing Host to the spirit of BOB.

This is made VERY clear in the scene where he is looking in the mirror and his face changes, because during that scene Lynch actually *flashes back* to that shot of the GIF posted early from the season 2 finale, with Coop's Doppleganger and BOB being two distinct entities within the lodge - except unlike a host such as Leland, BOB is more collaborating with Coop's Doppleganger than just using him as a meat-mask to harvest garmonbozia, the way he did with Leland, it seemed. Like in the scene in FWWM when BOB/Leland go into the Lodge where Mike/The Arm (in conjunction with one another) demand their garmonbozia, Leland's face is a blank and he is clearly entirely subservient to the other spirits there. I think BOB and Coop's Doppleganger are much more, uh, sympatico so to speak. At least it seems that way so far. It'd be interesting to see who is stronger at controlling that body when push comes to shove.

And yes, I think that BOB is also metaphoric of the sort of moral decay that's inherent in Twin Peaks. Just because BOB is possessing Coop's Doppleganger and they're down in Rio at some ridiculous gangster's hideaway, does not mean BOB doesn't have a relationship with Twin Peaks still, and probably doesn't prevent him from manifesting in various ways. I always thought of it as a bit like Derry and Stephen King's IT, if you've ever read that, The town of Derry is essentially haunted by this murderous creature who feeds every generation or so causing a rash of horrible child-murders, but it's made clear that something is always "wrong" with the town at an intrinsic level because an interdimensional being of pure evil was basically living under the town and drawing out negative energy and bad vibes. I view BOB and the Black Lodge as having a similar relationship to Twin Peaks, even if BOB is possessing someone else and in South America living as a cocaine baron or something.

wa27
Jan 14, 2007



Cooper looks in the mirror and says "good, you're still with me". There are not two people in that cell, therefore I think Bob is in Evil Cooper's body.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004

"Why is it blue?"
"It's always blue."


Yeah, I take the "with me" in that scene as extremely literal.

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Modrasone
Jul 27, 2008

HE WANTS THIS AND SO SHOULD YOU!


Think of it like you're pushing a cart in the supermarket. In one instance you think you're shopping normally but in actual fact you're sat in the body of the cart staring at the pretty lights above while this other person pushes the cart around knocking over pyramids of soup cans and smashing into the legs of your daughter. That's Leland. In Bdoopermancer's instance he's in full rational control of the shopping cart and BOB is simply sat in that fold out chair bit that's made for kids going "weeeee let's go the garmonbozia aisle" and everyone's happy.

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