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TMMadman posted:So do we have a vig or an SK? that's a lot of words to not tell us what you win
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Added Space posted:So what did you win TMM? I can vote twice today or I can give it away. Although the boon could change if I give it away. I don't think I'm likely to give it away.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:37
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very lame
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Jun 9, 2017 18:41
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Tired Moritz posted:that's a lot of words to not tell us what you win Relax man. I was getting to it. Even if it hadn't been announced publicly, I would have announced it myself and given details. However, since it was announced I felt there was some value in waiting a few posts just to see how other people would react. Both you and Added seem very interested in the boon and that concerns me.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:43
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nothing wrong with wanting more information.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:46
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Tired Moritz posted:nothing wrong with wanting more information. That's debatable. Remember how lots of people in that Ecco game spilled a lot of secrets early? My scum team used that information pretty effectively in order to target the people who were most dangerous. Town absolutely needs to share information to win, but it also has to be balanced with a need to keep some information back because the more information scum have the more effective they can be. In this case, I never would have kept the information a secret since it's a limited day power but if it had been something like a 1 shot doc/cop or a night vig, it would have been much more prudent to hold that information back for the time being.
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Jun 9, 2017 18:53
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i am very happy to not be dead. ##vote: tired moritz a better tomorrow.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:22
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Time for a real content game. I voted for gulag.
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Jun 9, 2017 19:33
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i nominated chaoslord for doing something other than make 35 posts talking about previous games he was in
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Jun 9, 2017 19:59
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I voted TMM for MotM due to having proper grammar and sounding reasonable.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:04
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Also voted TMM ##tired moritz Super sketchy yesterday, and now fishing hard for info about the boon. Work soon, I'll be on to post more later
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Jun 9, 2017 20:09
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voted tmm for defending me also come on, I am literally getting poo poo on when we had a discussion on forcing whoever got the boon to tell what it does
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Jun 9, 2017 20:21
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I was fine with voting Tired Moritz D1 and I'm fine with it D2 as well, but I think we ought to have some kind of discussion first.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:26
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but seriously, can you guys tell me why the hell is being interested in what the boon is scummy? TMM can talk about mafia strats or whatever, but you know I just want to know more information now. don't lie and say you're not interested too. you guys are just pushing me for asking what we're all thinking.
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Jun 9, 2017 20:29
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##vote TMMadman What were you doing yesterday voting me with half an hour until the deadline?
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Jun 9, 2017 23:17
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The Ninth Layer posted:##vote TMMadman I was voting for the person I thought was most likely to be scum. I made my thinking clear about Tired and I that I wasn't likely to vote him. So question for you TNL, why are you upset about me when Ernie also flat out stated that he wouldn't vote Tired even if it meant a no lynch?
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Jun 10, 2017 00:02
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TMMadman posted:I was voting for the person I thought was most likely to be scum. I am upset with him. But at least his play reflects that he was aware a deadline was happening.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:15
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Not really encouraging when I ask you essentially why you ignored the deadline to instead pursue someone with 0 votes and your response is but other people did it too.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:16
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The Ninth Layer posted:Not really encouraging when I ask you essentially why you ignored the deadline to instead pursue someone with 0 votes and your response is but other people did it too. Because it wasn't like there was any other real candidate available. PMom/Inf was the only person who got more than 2 votes on him and he only had 3 on him at one point. I don't feel like you are being very sincere here. I made it fairly clear during the day that I wasn't likely to vote for Tired and gave my reasons for thinking that way. And now you are sitting here seemingly blaming me and only me for voting for who I thought was scum. You are calling me out for voting for you towards the end of the day, but you aren't calling out Sandwolf who voted for me (putting me at 2 votes when combined with Ernie) 5 minutes before my vote. You say you're mad at Ernie, but you don't seem to be asking him any questions. I though you were scum yesterday with your awkward unvote on Sandwolf (who I suspect might also be scum) and after your questioning and reactions now, I think it's still true. So, you're going to get both my votes right now. ##vote TNL ##vote TNL
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Jun 10, 2017 01:37
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So again, "other people did it too."
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Jun 10, 2017 01:41
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All three of you are scummy for voting non-entities right before deadline. But instead of defending why you ignored the deadline you're trying to shift the focus to other people. Right now I'm talking to you, so defend your own play. Why was it better for town to no lynch than to vote Tired Moritz?
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Jun 10, 2017 01:45
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The Ninth Layer posted:So again, "other people did it too." How was I ignoring the deadline? What exactly do you think I should have done? I voted for the person I thought was most likely to be scum. That is the game. I did not think Tired was scum and I was not willing to vote him. Again, you're holding me to this one particular standard, but nobody else. I've pointed out basically a direct example of someone else doing the exact same thing (and in fact, it was the person you had been voting for almost the entire day before unvoting him with essentially a shrug.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:46
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TMMadman posted:How was I ignoring the deadline? I think you should have participated in building a town consensus. I really really really shouldn't have to explain to you why no lynching is bad for the town. I'll ask you the same question I asked Ernie: are you masons with Tired Moritz? Do you know something about his alignment that the rest of the town didn't?
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Jun 10, 2017 01:48
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Even you know that I have a point here, that's why you're so busy bringing up other players who did the same thing.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:49
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The Ninth Layer posted:All three of you are scummy for voting non-entities right before deadline. But instead of defending why you ignored the deadline you're trying to shift the focus to other people. Right now I'm talking to you, so defend your own play. Why was it better for town to no lynch than to vote Tired Moritz? Because I didn't believe he was scum and the arguments against him yesterday were weak. It essentially turned into an apathy lynch and you are the problem vote. I honestly don't feel I have anything to defend again. I have no issue with not voting for someone I don't think is scum and feel they are getting railroaded.
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Jun 10, 2017 01:57
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##vote TMM I feel pretty reasonably certain you're scum, you're consistently retreading people's arguments but inaccurately and disingenuously. I also don't know why all the newbies voted for you, but something about that mixed with the way you behaved at deadline yesterday and the way you're arguing with TNL now all seem extremely scummy to me. Hal you better say something.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:00
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TMMadman posted:Because I didn't believe he was scum and the arguments against him yesterday were weak. It essentially turned into an apathy lynch and you are the problem vote. Why not make some effort towards seeing a vote you actually wanted to happen? Why vote someone with 0 votes as if you had thirty hours til the deadline instead of thirty minutes?
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Jun 10, 2017 02:03
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The Ninth Layer posted:Why not make some effort towards seeing a vote you actually wanted to happen? Why vote someone with 0 votes as if you had thirty hours til the deadline instead of thirty minutes? This is another bullshit argument. There was clearly no real enthusiasm to lynch anyone other than Tired as evidenced by the fact that nobody except Tired ended up wtih more than 3 votes on them at one time. And it's not like you were making any cases against anyone. You made an argument against Sandwolf, then ditched it rather unceremoniously, moved to Inf with a comment about not liking the other options and then voted for Tired at the same time as Kasu voting Inf. Then you made a post 4 minutes later saying that replacing out was scummy but you didn't move your vote back to Inf even though it would have made created a 3-3 tie between Inf/Tired. Instead, you left your vote on Tired. You made a few posts after that, but it wasn't like you were actively trying to get people to vote for Tired.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:15
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TMMadman posted:This is another bullshit argument. There was clearly no real enthusiasm to lynch anyone other than Tired as evidenced by the fact that nobody except Tired ended up wtih more than 3 votes on them at one time. I kept my vote on the vote leader instead of splitting votes for no reason, yes. It's as if I was trying to make sure the town got to use one of our ~5 attempts to test someone's alignment, instead of giving the scum a free night. You got me!
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Jun 10, 2017 02:19
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The Ninth Layer posted:I kept my vote on the vote leader instead of splitting votes for no reason, yes. It's as if I was trying to make sure the town got to use one of our ~5 attempts to test someone's alignment, instead of giving the scum a free night. You got me! And you could have kept your vote on Inf and tried to argue for him to get lynched first. You might have actually swayed me to lynch Inf even though I had a slight town lean on PMom. My vote on you was mostly just a protest vote, but since it didn't seem like anyone wanted to try to lynch anyone other than Tired I didn't feel any compelling reason to move it.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:25
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TMMadman posted:And you could have kept your vote on Inf and tried to argue for him to get lynched first. You might have actually swayed me to lynch Inf even though I had a slight town lean on PMom. Mafia edit - by kept vote on Inf, I mean move back to him.
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TMMadman posted:And you could have kept your vote on Inf and tried to argue for him to get lynched first. You might have actually swayed me to lynch Inf even though I had a slight town lean on PMom. TMMadman posted:Honestly, I forgot you had been voting PMom. So your vote for Inf was fine, but I still think you're suspicious as hell. Doesn't look like a protest vote to me. Looks like you thought half an hour before deadline was a great time to start this new case of yours.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:29
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Also lol at you blaming me for not keeping my vote on the guy you would have voted for. You could have voted for Infinitum too or shown even the slightest interest in making sure a vote happened.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:31
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The Ninth Layer posted:Also lol at you blaming me for not keeping my vote on the guy you would have voted for. You could have voted for Infinitum too or shown even the slightest interest in making sure a vote happened. I'm not blaming you. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your actions. You are condemning me for not trying to make a case for a viable lynch candidate while you were doing the exact same thing. You weren't really doing any advocating for trying to get Tired lynched. And you weren't trying to get anyone else lynched. You were just floating along hoping that Tired would get lynched and that you wouldn't get looked at too closely.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:37
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I'm condemning you for completely ignoring an approaching deadline.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:38
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To the point where I can't even find evidence you were aware there was a deadline.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:41
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The Ninth Layer posted:I'm condemning you for completely ignoring an approaching deadline. Do you think that Inf could have gotten enough votes to be lynched? Because otherwise, this is entirely a moot point. I wasn't going to vote Tired because I did not think he was scum and I feel he was getting railroaded. You can make your argument to never no lynch all you want, but I have always had mixed feelings about it. I am not going to lynch someone I believe is town at the time just to lynch someone.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:44
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gently caress dude I was even pointing this out yesterday. Twice! The Ninth Layer posted:Good luck getting eight other people to vote me in twenty five minutes. The Ninth Layer posted:TMM pushing me as if deadline isn't in ten minutes.
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Jun 10, 2017 02:44
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TMMadman posted:Do you think that Inf could have gotten enough votes to be lynched? I think the natural thing to do if you dislike the #1 choice is to vote for the #2 choice, instead of sitting on your hands like scum like to do at the deadline.
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The Ninth Layer posted:I think the natural thing to do if you dislike the #1 choice is to vote for the #2 choice, instead of sitting on your hands like scum like to do at the deadline. Haha. You are saying that I shouldn't vote for the person I think is most likely to be scum. That is scum behavior. You probably should have just killed me last night. But instead, I think you wanted to use this argument to waste a day.
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