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Fagmaster
Aug 21, 2004

All of them, over 4 years old games sucks

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WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

Woooooooop, later y'all

stump collector
May 28, 2007
Sim City. The one that was unplayable.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Early 3D, except for some high water marks like maybe mario 64, some of the lucasarts titles, and some other poo poo im not gonna think too hard about it, is all really bad and not very playable these days. Gamecube/ps2 era is pushing it and a lot of those have really bad controls

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

pretty much every playstation 1 & 2 game

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

WatermelonGun posted:

Turok 2 is pretty much unplayable now due to the n64's terrible controller and the loving frame rate dipping to single digits if you have the audacity to fire any of the cool guns

That first level though...

Mr Underhill
Feb 14, 2012

Not picking that up.
2d cartoony games always age better. If you have to go 3d make it cartoony and as low poly as you can get away with. That's it right there, the key to your 90s game aging well. You are welcome.

Seriously, Curse of Monkey Island turns 20 this year and is still gorgeous. Deus Ex, otoh...

Mr Underhill
Feb 14, 2012

Not picking that up.

numberoneposter posted:

pretty much every playstation 1 & 2 game

Never played it on PSX but was looking up Grandia I today, still looks dope af. Wish there was a way to play it on PS4, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

Fagmaster posted:

All of them, over 4 years old games sucks





phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
The consensus appears to be that consoles were always poo poo and the PC has never had a serious contender.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

phasmid posted:

The consensus appears to be that consoles were always poo poo and the PC has never had a serious contender.

PC's weren't as ubiquitous in the average household as they are today during the early console (ATARI - NES - Genesis) era. The internet was also growing its roots during that time, so the development of online gaming was still in it's early early stages. Most of your "good" games then were developed for the consoles. The PC today is just so much more powerful when compared to consoles that they can't compete on a technical level. Not to say there isn't plenty of reasons why someone might go for a console (cost, exclusives, etc.,)

Plus if you want to mod your Skyrim to an explicitly graphic interactive porn game, PC is the place to be.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


PC was bigger dogshit than consoles in the 80s. The only thing you could say for it is that there are some interesting experimental games from the 80s, like elite and whatnot, are not fun games to play anymore. They're just interesting. Until computer hardware began to standardize with ibm and intel you had a lot of expensive toy consumer hardware that didn't perform as well as consoles so you generally got inferior ports of console games and parents weren't letting a kid monopolize a PC for gaming anyway. Why develop for a C64 or zx spectrum in the uk when you could shovel bullshit out for the atari or deal with the nightmare of being licensed by nintendo, or sega, or w/e? That's where the money was. PC gaming didn't get good until like 1990 or 1991, when hardware and software finally began to seriously standardize and programmers were able to take advantage of more advanced hardware that could actually do interesting AND fun things.

Harakiri Potter
Oct 18, 2004

REACH HEAVEN THROUGH VIOLENCE BABY
Remember the 32X Sega upgrade? I had a next door neighbor who owned one when I lived in NW DC in the mid 90's. Fridays, he'd go get a case of Schlitz and invite me over. We'd play Freddy Couples 36 Great Holes. Once in a while I'd hear a gun shot outside or a mag dump and he was this accountant that worked for the GSA and he'd just crank up the volume and say poo poo like "the birds, they sound beautiful" and then slam another can down and crush it against his gut.

https://youtu.be/uD7LBawRoO8?t=9m15s

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


stump collector posted:

Sim City. The one that was unplayable.

That was actually just released a couple years ago and didn't age at all. It's still just as lovely as it was at release.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

system shock 2 and thief look like absolute rear end, BUT, they just dont make games that play like that any more

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Jose posted:

They have learned nothing about making the game control not poo poo in 10+ years. You turn like a cow lol
what. you your character by moving him in a direction and if you arent aiming a gun he turns to the direction he moves. if you want to move the camera you move the camera. if you want to instantly turn the camera to wherever the character is looking there is 1 button for that (i believe its the aim button)
all of that is essentially the same as mario 64 did it in june 96. you havent figured out how to use modern 3rd person controls in 21 years

Fagmaster
Aug 21, 2004


lol

nah

and gently caress your shoehorned politicsman meme

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i just got given some shoehorns and they were not what i was expecting.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Blue Raider posted:

oblivion looked like rear end the exact second it was released

Morrowind's old blocky graphics look better than Oblivion's oversaturated extra-bloom doughfaces.

Who What Now posted:

Skyrim still only has like four VAs total so apparently Patrick worked for scale.

And Jim Cummings is one of the Skyrim and Elder Scrolls Online VAs so everywhere you go it's "oh hey, it's that one guy from all those 90s cartoons" and it's always the same voice despite his decent range of voices in other things.

Mr Underhill posted:

Never played it on PSX but was looking up Grandia I today, still looks dope af. Wish there was a way to play it on PS4, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

A lot of PS2 and late PS1 JRPGs with simple 3D anime graphics still look ok today because they stuck to an art style that worked instead of trying for bleeding edge realism.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

numberoneposter posted:

system shock 2 and thief look like absolute rear end, BUT, they just dont make games that play like that any more

System Shock 2 is really not worth playing at all. I played it after I first finished Deus Ex (in like 2009) and it was a miserable step backward from loving Deus Ex.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Beefeater posted:

Anything from the N64 really.

Seriously, I don't know if it was my N64 in particular but I remember some intense lag in games like Perfect Dark, goldeneye, and the starfox level in SSB.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I loved the Jet Moto games for ps1 when I was a kid. they fuckin suck lol. Controls SUCK.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
the original black jack, where u cudged negros

Zorodius
Feb 11, 2007

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a bone to pick posted:

Seriously, I don't know if it was my N64 in particular but I remember some intense lag in games like Perfect Dark, goldeneye, and the starfox level in SSB.

a lot of N64 games ran faster if you had that memory expansion pack

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Last Chance posted:

I loved the Jet Moto games for ps1 when I was a kid. they fuckin suck lol. Controls SUCK.
A lot of old racing games are like that. Cool concepts like Jet Moto and Wipeout are rad but the janky rear end physics are blown out of the water by todays standards.

Racing sims have it even worse. There is a long list of rally games that are unplayable graphics not withstanding. RiP :rip:

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k
I tried to play GTA San Andreas for the first time and oh my god the controls are absolute poo poo. I got stuck on like the 3rd mission because I had to drive some guy but the controls were so bad I kept crashing the car. So I quit. 3 and Vice City were even worse.

I love GTA 4 but gently caress spawing at your house/hospital, having to drive to the mission start, and then all the gently caress across the city to the actual action part of the mission.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
*tries to play grand theft auto and lands face-first in the toilet bowl, bowl of potato chips spills nearby*
theres got to be a better way

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Thin Privilege posted:

I tried to play GTA San Andreas for the first time and oh my god the controls are absolute poo poo. I got stuck on like the 3rd mission because I had to drive some guy but the controls were so bad I kept crashing the car. So I quit. 3 and Vice City were even worse.

I love GTA 4 but gently caress spawing at your house/hospital, having to drive to the mission start, and then all the gently caress across the city to the actual action part of the mission.

Perhaps the GTA series is not for you, may I suggest Saints Row?

I tihnk it has the light-hearted open-world fun you're looking for.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

numberoneposter posted:

A lot of old racing games are like that. Cool concepts like Jet Moto and Wipeout are rad but the janky rear end physics are blown out of the water by todays standards.

Racing sims have it even worse. There is a long list of rally games that are unplayable graphics not withstanding. RiP :rip:

I played Top Gear Rally a couple of years back, it's still alright. Soundtrack is still real good kind of Tangerine Dream stuff tho

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

a bone to pick posted:

Seriously, I don't know if it was my N64 in particular but I remember some intense lag in games like Perfect Dark, goldeneye, and the starfox level in SSB.

Perfect Dark was funny as hell to play sometimes though because it had that wide variety of AI types. Me and my buddy used to do custom matches with me and him on a team and the other team entirely full of bots. The AI types were funny as gently caress. You had the KazeSim who'd just charge right at you shooting rockets and poo poo with no regard for its own safety. The FistSim would run up and beat the piss out of you with the disarm melee and steal your loving gun and leave your screen so blurry it made your eyes water. Plus when somebody killed the FistSim it was like a pinata of guns because of how many other bots he'd done that to. Then you had the VengeSim who would murder whoever the hell last killed him. It didn't matter if he was on your team, it would hunt you the gently caress down until some other poor fucker killed him. There was one that ran fast as gently caress too.

God I'll never forget all the times I hollered "poo poo!" when I saw the message that said I'd killed the VengeSim. That fucker never stopped coming, ever.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

That was actually just released a couple years ago and didn't age at all. It's still just as lovely as it was at release.
when new simcity came out, somebody posted comparisons between the biggest cities you could make in simcity 3, simcity 4, a different city-building game, and that version. the newest one was the smallest by far

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Honky Dong Country posted:

Perfect Dark was funny as hell to play sometimes though because it had that wide variety of AI types. Me and my buddy used to do custom matches with me and him on a team and the other team entirely full of bots. The AI types were funny as gently caress. You had the KazeSim who'd just charge right at you shooting rockets and poo poo with no regard for its own safety. The FistSim would run up and beat the piss out of you with the disarm melee and steal your loving gun and leave your screen so blurry it made your eyes water. Plus when somebody killed the FistSim it was like a pinata of guns because of how many other bots he'd done that to. Then you had the VengeSim who would murder whoever the hell last killed him. It didn't matter if he was on your team, it would hunt you the gently caress down until some other poor fucker killed him. There was one that ran fast as gently caress too.

Bots have died in gaming and idk why, I remember some similar stories during the half-life / Unreal tournament days.

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

a bone to pick posted:

Bots have died in gaming and idk why, I remember some similar stories during the half-life / Unreal tournament days.

Yeah, Perfect Dark did it right by having insane AI types, too. gently caress now I really wanna play it again. Like bots in general are kinda boring, so I get them not being common. But when you can select a varied cast of lunatic bots that behave in loving insane ways it's funny as hell. God I remember frantically trying to shoot the FistSim before he could get close and slap the piss outta me and run off with the gun I was holding and leaving my screen painfully blurry. God help you if he caught you in one of the crouched-down vent spots where you couldn't backpeddle fast to shoot the gently caress outta him.

The worst was realizing you had killed the VengeSim and then getting the piss slapped outta you by the FistSim. You were basically hosed with a blurry rear end screen and an angry VengeSim looking to murder you.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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remember the ouya

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

numberoneposter posted:

system shock 2 and thief look like absolute rear end, BUT, they just dont make games that play like that any more

thief 1 and 2 are cases where the limited color palette really worked well with the games' dark, dirty visuals

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

a bone to pick posted:

Bots have died in gaming and idk why, I remember some similar stories during the half-life / Unreal tournament days.

Since a lot of the big companies are beholden to even bigger companies, I assumed phasing out bots was basically a signal "hey, if you want to play free-for-all, you gotta join psn/live/whatever!" Basically just a way to get people to sign up for high quality online gaming, paving the way for charging money for all online play.

Basically just waiting for the people dumb/lazy enough to not know you can have things for free to come of age and extort the hell out of em.

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

The_Franz posted:

thief 1 and 2 are cases where the limited color palette really worked well with the games' dark, dirty visuals

Every single time I ever played Thief I blackjacked the cook in the first level and drowned him in his own sink. Thief was a great loving franchise all the way through Deadly Shadows but I can't bring myself to play the newest one because I heard it was basically a reboot and I feel like I really wouldn't like that.

Also I'll never forget the word taffer because of the Thief games.

gumdrops
Sep 12, 2016
Deus Ex.

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

a bone to pick posted:

Perhaps the GTA series is not for you, may I suggest Saints Row?

I tihnk it has the light-hearted open-world fun you're looking for.

You are correct, I love Saints Row.

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Full Metal Jackass
Jan 22, 2001

Rabid bats are welcome in my home
I remember how amazed I was when Wave Race for the N64 came out. It was the most realistic water and had awesome controls.

I'm sure it's absolute dogshit now though.

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