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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



GalacticAcid posted:

How much do all of their op ed contributors get paid

How much does Ross Douthat make
if it's anything like ESPN, the people with the Bad Opinions probably make the most money

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Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

A regular op ed pays $150

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

the dril tweet but for the op-ed desk

im not owned i insist as i inevitably transform into an op ed desk, complete with old fashioned typewriter

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008





GalacticAcid posted:

How much do all of their op ed contributors get paid

How much does Ross Douthat make

My guess is an average wage that is supplanted by being on numerous boards, fellowships, and paid speeches.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747


Commerz posted:

My guess is an average wage that is supplanted by being on numerous boards, fellowships, and paid speeches.

Being the failson of rich parents who prop you up while you get contacts

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye



Paul Krugman is cool and good

He is pretty much the exception to their op-ed staff tho

let me get a little more mileage out of this

David Brooks demonstrates hilarious stupidity

our esteem-able raconteur SHY NUDIST GRRL pointed out that most of the article was like those commenters on youtube who post "women/blacks already have enough"

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


Krugman became a boring stenographer for the Democrats this primary season and he is now Bad

When you read his (good) occasional essays in the New York Review of Books you realize how insultingly simple and retarded his times column is

Also he dedicated space to writing about online Bernie Bros last year which...come on

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Is a saint not entitled to the skin of his foot?






Nebakenezzer posted:

Paul Krugman is cool and good
nah krugman is pretty lovely and spent many of his op-eds during the primary season smearing and attacking sanders and essentially being a surrogate of the clinton campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/22/opinion/how-change-happens.html
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/wonks-and-minions
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/how-to-make-donald-trump-president/
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/health-wonks-and-bernie-bros/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/opinion/sanders-over-the-edge.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/opinion/the-pastrami-principle.html
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/the-truth-about-the-sanders-movement/
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/720979353652367360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

taibbi wrote some sharp criticism of krugman's lovely takes when attempting to smear sanders
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-the-banks-should-be-broken-up-20160408

edit: taibbi is criticizing krugman's really absurd statement about the financial crisis here:

quote:

Predatory lending was largely carried out by smaller, non-Wall Street institutions like Countrywide Financial; the crisis itself was centered not on big banks but on 'shadow banks' like Lehman Brothers that weren't necessarily that big.

comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 17:11 on Jul 8, 2017

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



back in the day, krugman called out the stimulus package for being half tax cuts and half direct stimulus, that it should have been bigger, and there should be another stimulus in the future. i agree with all of those points. he's a keynesian economist which still operates within the capitalist mindset, but political attitudes have shifted so far to the right that reading those views felt novel

even back then, though, krugman would write the occasional column backing standard DNC conventional wisdom. i haven't bothered with the op-ed page in years, but if he's ramped up those columns recently, then i can deal with lumping him in with the rest of them

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


He was excellent during the 2008 primaries. His assessments of the relative merits of the Edwards, Clinton, and Obama healthcare plans were crucial. He esteemed the Edwards plan the highest - not coincidentally, Edwards also had the most straightforwardly left healthcare project.

Krugman's review of Picketty's Capital for the NYRB is very much worth the read. It reveals how rigorous and keen an analyst he can be when he wants to be, when he's writing for an audience he respects, and concomitantly exposes the cynicism of his lovely DNC press releases in the Times.

I gave up on him after the "Bernie Bros" article.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye



Yeah as an elite he followed the DNC, but then again anybody who understood who Trump is had a strong motive to believe Hillary Goddamn Clinton was gonna save the day

also lol at "he criticized berniebros TF is bad", I mean what did he call the berniebros partisans or something

But unlike other columnists he's a legit expert in his field who can actually share insight into things

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


Bernie Bros are Mean Online and are Poisoning Democracy

I'm a huge bitch with an extra chromosome


I think that's the verbatim text of the column, something like that

logikv9
Mar 4, 2009




Ham Wrangler

he wasn't wrong but loving lol for using your position as a widely read columnist at the loving NYT to bitch about em

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016




referencing matt taibbi to criticize paul krugman L loving MAO

"ugh this meatloaf sucks, I would much rather eat a steaming poo poo sandwich, tyvm"

a primate
Jun 2, 2010



the "Berniebro" meme will encapsulate fully the historical record of sanders' vie for leadership, and form a large part of clinton's hagiography.

generations from now, children will be taught how the Bernard Brotherhood prevented America from having the first woman president

that is my prediction, all hail the great orb

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981



logikv9 posted:

he wasn't wrong but loving lol for using your position as a widely read columnist at the loving NYT to bitch about em

you gotta commit

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


Bernie Bros

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014




Ramrod XTreme

a primate posted:

the "Berniebro" meme will encapsulate fully the historical record of sanders' vie for leadership, and form a large part of clinton's hagiography.

generations from now, children will be taught how the Bernard Brotherhood prevented America from having the first woman president

that is my prediction, all hail the great orb

having a woman president is important because it makes almost as advanced as the ancient Egyptians in gender relations...or something

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016



nyt opinion page really 'gets' the roots of inequality

https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/884747933178101760

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009




GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


Recently I took a friend with only a high school degree to lunch

Badger of Basra
Jul 25, 2007



this reminds me of the hillbilly elegy guy claiming he didn't know what sparkling water was

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

"I had to stop my friend, through a series of grunts and firm-but-not-intimidating eye contact, from using a book as a napkin after she ate her half of the burrito. She put the rest in her purse and said her baby could eat it, so long as she sprinkled some goldfish crackers and chocolate milk on it."

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




Fallen Hamprince posted:

nyt opinion page really 'gets' the roots of inequality

https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/884747933178101760

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh02zvHHPzw

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003



Fallen Hamprince posted:

nyt opinion page really 'gets' the roots of inequality

https://twitter.com/AnnieLowrey/status/884747933178101760

quote:

To feel at home in opportunity-rich areas, you’ve got to understand the right barre techniques, sport the right baby carrier, have the right podcast, food truck, tea, wine and Pilates tastes, not to mention possess the right attitudes about David Foster Wallace, child-rearing, gender norms and intersectionality.

It's amazing that this guy can still breathe with his head so far up his own rear end.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



if any essay, op-ed, or thinkpiece brings up David Foster Wallace, that's your cue to stop reading it

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014




Ramrod XTreme

get that OUT of my face posted:

if any essay, op-ed, or thinkpiece brings up David Foster Wallace, that's your cue to stop reading it

i dont understand what he wrote and why it matters

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



Top City Homo posted:

i dont understand what he wrote and why it matters
it doesn't matter at all, it's self-important wankery

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.


Top City Homo posted:

i dont understand what he wrote and why it matters

David Foster Wallace is the God-King of middlebrow, that's all you need to know.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014




Ramrod XTreme

i will now wipe that name from my memory but repember if anyone mentions infinite jest as a book one likes that i can ly swipe left

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.

In snob literary circles, telling your friends that you're going to take on infinite jest is like climbing Everest: you have to set aside a chunk of your life to do it, it's miserable though not particularly hard vs. other more respectable challenges, and a lot of your friends are secretly hoping you'll die in the process.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Is a saint not entitled to the skin of his foot?






to be fair, you start to have to huff your own farts when you start with the premise that most peoples' economic station in life is justified and how the world should be

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy


get that OUT of my face posted:

it doesn't matter at all, it's self-important wankery

*dracula voice* perhaps the same could be said of all fiction

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!


I really like David Foster Wallace?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


isn't hating david foster wallace like a "the toast" thing

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981



i think some people made some good criticisms of DFW and then people just jumped on the band wagon so it's really cool to hate him now

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!


Friends, Im pretty sure that 99% of the cool haters, like always with this sort of thing, have not actually read him.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES


small brain: infinite jest is an important novel worthy of serious criticism
normal brain: no opinion on infinite jest
big brain: mallory ortberg told me dfw sucks so i dont like his books
exploding galaxy om brain: im glad dfw killed him self, its good

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 10 days!


When i was doing my MA in English lit, there was a fellow student who was working on a PhD about David foster Wallace and he was super weird and totally obsessed by him. Thanks for reading and God bless.

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Victory Position
Mar 15, 2004







Pynchon is genuinely enjoyable to read, Mason/Dixon is fun as hell

I had to have meat hooks jammed into my shoulders to drag me through the slog that was DFW

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