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ImpactVector
Feb 24, 2007

HAHAHAHA FOOLS!!
I AM SO SMART!

Uh oh. What did he do now?


Nap Ghost

Dr. VooDoo posted:

So question about editions. The deluxe edition says it has a rare 8 hero starter pack. Does that mean the standard edition doesn't come with heros to play as or something?
I'm not 100% since I have deluxe, but you start as the soldier woman and then I think you get the constructor guy from a quest. IDK if you get any more automatic ones.

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Equate
Nov 11, 2011



Dr. VooDoo posted:

So question about editions. The deluxe edition says it has a rare 8 hero starter pack. Does that mean the standard edition doesn't come with heros to play as or something?

So the standard only comes with what it says it comes with. The deluxe comes with 8 rare (blue), the limited comes with 2 legendary (yellow), the ultimate (which you don't see) comes with all available legendary heroes offered in limited.

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


explosivo posted:

Standard package is perfectly fine. There are upgrade options available in-game for the difference (so, $20 to upgrade from the Standard to Deluxe edition) if you end up liking the game. I picked up standard and am having a blast so will probably upgrade to Deluxe on payday this week.

I'm curious, if I buy a free gift pack off of someone else, can I upgrade that gifted pack? Would at least save me some money if I want a higher pack. If anyone wants to sell a key for $20 I might be interested, I see $15-20 is the current price on epicnpc and other third party sites, but I'd rather have someone more trustworthy. PM me on Discord Akumos#9076

Equate
Nov 11, 2011



Akumos posted:

I'm curious, if I buy a free gift pack off of someone else, can I upgrade that gifted pack? Would at least save me some money if I want a higher pack. If anyone wants to sell a key for $20 I might be interested, I see $15-20 is the current price on epicnpc and other third party sites, but I'd rather have someone more trustworthy. PM me on Discord Akumos#9076

Yes, you pay the difference in purchase price. I have sold all of my packs unfortunately, (I had 4 from ultimate), good luck getting one!

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

So is this game free? I keep seeing people mention F2P but it looks like it at least costs $40 to start.

Campbell
Jun 7, 2000


$40+ to join the early release, with F2P happening in January. I bought Deluxe and kind of wish I'd just gotten the standard - Deluxe gives you "more stuff" but not enough that it's really a game changer or anything.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT, EAT BRAINS ALL DAY



If I upgrade my pack, can I give the extra game code to someone playing it on consoles if I'm on PC?

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


Apparently this game has secret crossplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go_VxvK1uyM

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009


Something that I personally would have wanted to know sooner that isn't actually spelled out anywhere (played a few days on standard before upgrading) is that if you buy one of the packs that includes heroes, you're able to play those hero classes immediately - without having to unlock them on the skill tree. Rather, it looks like they're passively "unlocked" in the background when you buy said pack, but you can still drop points in them on the skill tree to progress past them.

May save you some time if you want to start off as an outlander for maxloot.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

So what is the purpose of survivors? Just making sets to get bonuses? Also isnthe only way to craft guns and look at your backpack is being in a round and not anywhere in the pre game menu?

ImpactVector
Feb 24, 2007

HAHAHAHA FOOLS!!
I AM SO SMART!

Uh oh. What did he do now?


Nap Ghost

Dr. VooDoo posted:

So what is the purpose of survivors? Just making sets to get bonuses?
Each team gives you a stat boost to your F.O.R.T.s. So the EMT team gives you Fortitude while your fire team gives you Offense. Matching jobs and personalities increases that boost. The set bonuses give you special extra boosts if you complete them.

According to the tooltip, each F.O.R.T. point is a straight % increase in health, weapon damage, shields, or trap/ability damage (respectively), so they seem like they're no joke.

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Also isnthe only way to craft guns and look at your backpack is being in a round and not anywhere in the pre game menu?
Yes, unfortunately.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Equate posted:

Yes, you pay the difference in purchase price. I have sold all of my packs unfortunately, (I had 4 from ultimate), good luck getting one!

I have a few more beginner packs left if anyone is interested, just PM me.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

EDIT: nevermind figured it out

Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2017 around 05:30

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


Skandranon posted:

I have a few more beginner packs left if anyone is interested, just PM me.

I'm looking to grab a gift key but would like to get it at $20 since literally every person on epicnpc is selling it for that price. I just don't trust them as much, but I'm about to risk it soon if no one here sells that low. I don't have PMs. Akumos#9076 is my discord if you want that deal.

a cock shaped fruit
Aug 23, 2010



The true enemy of humanity is disorder.


Do people ever give away keys?

Hypha
Sep 13, 2008



Well I am quite pleased with this. Provided that you can get the pathing sorted out, Orcs Must Die level kill boxes are totally achievable. Got the horde to all turn this one corner filled with wall darts, electric zappers and floor spikes. With some minor supplemental shooting (save for a smasher which needed to be put down), everything died on that one corner. Floor spikes are the tar pits of this game, the husks are slowed to a crawl if they have to walk on spikes. This allows everything else the time to rearm and fire efficiently. If you absolutely know where they are going, you can supplement this with low walls in their way fitted with wall spikes and other low wall traps. Shame that traps have "ammo" associated with them. Eventually you will have to replace a trap that runs dry.

If you wanna be a trap specialist, it is completely viable. It might be possible to solo missions, though you are going to have to put down a lot of resources to do that. I hope through the later levels that trap recipes remain cheap.

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


Hypha posted:

Well I am quite pleased with this. Provided that you can get the pathing sorted out, Orcs Must Die level kill boxes are totally achievable. Got the horde to all turn this one corner filled with wall darts, electric zappers and floor spikes. With some minor supplemental shooting (save for a smasher which needed to be put down), everything died on that one corner. Floor spikes are the tar pits of this game, the husks are slowed to a crawl if they have to walk on spikes. This allows everything else the time to rearm and fire efficiently. If you absolutely know where they are going, you can supplement this with low walls in their way fitted with wall spikes and other low wall traps. Shame that traps have "ammo" associated with them. Eventually you will have to replace a trap that runs dry.

If you wanna be a trap specialist, it is completely viable. It might be possible to solo missions, though you are going to have to put down a lot of resources to do that. I hope through the later levels that trap recipes remain cheap.

Could probably duo with Outlander + Soldier if you just have them gather a poo poo ton?

Tei
Feb 19, 2011



In dungeon defender you can switch hero out of combat ( between waves ), I miss that option here.

SoggyGravy
Jul 14, 2008

MAXIMUM
OVERGOON


This game is the bee's knees. Thank you for putting together the OP.

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


Maybe add this to OP and FYI: You can change your FOV to be bigger based on your aspect ratio

Open the Engine.ini file with Notepad
At the bottom, add the following:

[/script/engine.localplayer]
AspectRatioAxisConstraint=AspectRatio_MaintainYFOV

Location(akumos is my comp obv)


Also mouse accel is on for some dumb reason and you can disable it in that same folder in gameusersettings, set it to bDisableMouseAcceleration=True

Akumos fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2017 around 11:30

Social Dissonance
Nov 25, 2002

hey guys lets ride

Akumos posted:

Maybe add this to OP and FYI: You can change your FOV to be bigger based on your aspect ratio

Open the Engine.ini file with Notepad
At the bottom, add the following:

[/script/engine.localplayer]
AspectRatioAxisConstraint=AspectRatio_MaintainYFOV

Location(akumos is my comp obv)


I know it's probably personal preference, but what setting do you think looks best with 16:9 monitors?

Akumos
Sep 10, 2006

VIP MEMBER


Social Dissonance posted:

I know it's probably personal preference, but what setting do you think looks best with 16:9 monitors?

Aim isn't super important in this game but actually seeing what the gently caress is happening around you kind of is so I think the better FOV is more important and looks better.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

90 is always my go-to anything over that tends to fish-eye.

e: Well I tried 90 but it's far too much. They might be doing the stupid thing where you change the vertical FoV and not the horizontal.

Sultan Tarquin fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2017 around 12:41

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

just so it's clear

Tried to edit the OP, oops

StabMasterArson
May 31, 2011



Got this game yesterday in the end. Pretty interesting but really does suffer from too much menu stuff and honestly far too many abilities and cards and skills that dont really make much of a difference at all. All the games Ive played with people probably could have been done without even building anything and I dont think Ive actually lost health yet. I assume it gets more difficult but as of now its a bit of a slog but maybe a good podcast game to play and not pay a whole lot of attention to

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009


Sultan Tarquin posted:

e: Well I tried 90 but it's far too much. They might be doing the stupid thing where you change the vertical FoV and not the horizontal.
If it's vertical, than 59 should give you 90d horizontal on a 16:9 panel. I personally like 110 horizontal so it'd be 78 for me. http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bf...vcalculator.php

Edit it does appear to be vertical, yes, setting "Y" to 78 gave me a glorious massive increase in visibility and made zoom-in weapons not awful. Side effect seems to be you can zoom out way more on the map and the party screen is much smaller too. Not a bad thing though.


Akumos posted:

ini files to unfuck certain settings
Beautiful. I assume replace "Y" with the desired number? (yep, it's Y)


StabMasterArson posted:

I assume it gets more difficult
You assume correctly. At least the easy early game means you can succeed with crappy RNG from the llamas that quests/etc give you. You'll need to start paying attention to optimizing your loadout/squads toward the end of the 2nd area though.

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Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT, EAT BRAINS ALL DAY



Wow!
I just got a jackpot llama from the collection book.
Do they always boost up to gold? Because uh... I got some nice stuff out of that.

Now if only I could get a rifle defender that wasn't a level 1/1 grey. It's killing me. There's a quest to upgrade a defender but I literally can't.

Anyway, this game rules. I love it.
The daily XP bonus that you get? That seems to roll over indefinitely. I have 15,000+ banked since I only play 1-2 matches a day.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

So, since we can make weapons for each other, I figure it may be useful to get an idea of the schematics out there for people interested in trading. I've put together a simple spreadsheet for now, anyone with the link can edit. Add schematics you think people might be interested in. This probably means Rare at the minimum, but filters are easy to apply, so if you are willing to make the item for someone, put it in.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dit?usp=sharing

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Space Rock VS Space Water


the first amplifier storm shield mission is brutal when you are alone o.o

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009


@Twib: the right defenders (gunslingers/snipers, others burn too much ammo) are incredibly useful in solo matches, setting up a good kill funnel also does most of the work for you


@Skan: added a few columns that seemed useful

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009


Grimey Drawer

Skandranon posted:

So, since we can make weapons for each other, I figure it may be useful to get an idea of the schematics out there for people interested in trading. I've put together a simple spreadsheet for now, anyone with the link can edit. Add schematics you think people might be interested in. This probably means Rare at the minimum, but filters are easy to apply, so if you are willing to make the item for someone, put it in.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...dit?usp=sharing

I have 250+ schematics ranging from common to legendary. Working on getting the limited edition deluxe founder's edition items from epic to legendary right now.

SlayVus fucked around with this message at Jul 26, 2017 around 18:52

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

sushibandit posted:

@Skan: added a few columns that seemed useful

Thanks, I didn't think of putting them in because I can't fill them out from memory (at work now).

TwingeCrag
Feb 6, 2007

I got a Phd in Badassery


This game is super fun and playing it with friends is cool and good

edit: I just got my random purple commando guy to 2 stars, and he owns bones

s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Was looking to pick this up to play with some friends since we're kinda big on the whole horde mode/Nazi Zombies/Minecraft stuff and this seems to scratch that itch pretty well, is it worth picking up the higher up editions? I was thinking about getting the $150 one just for the two codes I could sell to friends and I'm kinda a sucker for cosmetic poo poo.

Also, god drat that's THICC.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

You pick up the nugget of URANIUM and...

Oh that was so stupid. Why would you do that?


I've been keeping an eye on this since I've been interested in it, but I'm still fuzzy on how the base-building works. Do you make your own private base that you defend, then make new mini-bases when you're on a mission on other maps?

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

Evil Mastermind posted:

I've been keeping an eye on this since I've been interested in it, but I'm still fuzzy on how the base-building works. Do you make your own private base that you defend, then make new mini-bases when you're on a mission on other maps?

Precisely. The game launches with you building your own permanent base that you occasionally go back to defend & upgrade and when you're on a mission the objective is usually defend x/y/z macguffin so you have to build a little fort around it.

Skandranon
Sep 6, 2008
fucking stupid, dont listen to me

s.i.r.e. posted:

Was looking to pick this up to play with some friends since we're kinda big on the whole horde mode/Nazi Zombies/Minecraft stuff and this seems to scratch that itch pretty well, is it worth picking up the higher up editions? I was thinking about getting the $150 one just for the two codes I could sell to friends and I'm kinda a sucker for cosmetic poo poo.

Also, god drat that's THICC.

I got the $150 + $100 package, and I am not regretting it yet.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.


Does anyone who has spent a significant amount of time with this game have a good list of drawbacks or reasons to hold off on this title?

Tei
Feb 19, 2011



Knifegrab posted:

Does anyone who has spent a significant amount of time with this game have a good list of drawbacks or reasons to hold off on this title?

I just don't like free to play games. At some point they force you to grind and pay to win? other than that is a fun title.

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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003


Knifegrab posted:

Does anyone who has spent a significant amount of time with this game have a good list of drawbacks or reasons to hold off on this title?

The free premium currency dries up pretty hardcore after the start and you are left without an effective way to grind for new weapons/heroes/anything fun really. That and at the moment the game rewards players for being selfish and not working with the team which is not great for long term game survival.

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