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I'm watching Ladyhawke and the music is so bad, you guys. It sounds like it should be in a fast food training video.
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I figured it out. All the big songs have a melody ripped off from a Human League single.
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Aug 20, 2017 00:54
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Neo Rasa posted:Ladyhawke is awesome and has the best TurboGrafx-CD soundtrack ever made. 
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Aug 22, 2017 17:32
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John Wick 2 definitely follows the action sequel standard of making everything bigger and louder and more violent, but the actually shocking thing is when a character just comes out and says "Y'know what John? I think this whole thing where you kill people is just a metaphor for addiction."
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Sep 5, 2017 19:33
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Payndz posted:Timecop was dopey fun from the days when even third-division chunkheads like Van Damme and Seagal had decent amounts of resources put behind them. I miss the days of "high concept" action cinema. I won't oppose Seagal to Van Damme because there is still any good reason to see Van Damme: the dude can still physically perform, and better than any given actor like Liam Neeson or Matt Damon doing an action role. There was never any reason to see a Seagal movie besides the aikido fight scenes, and the guy is physically incapable of doing an action scene of any kind.
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Dec 24, 2017 04:07
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McSpanky posted:And let's not forget his previous phase of "I'm a REAL LIFE BADASS, see?!" where he rode with some LA parish sheriff's department and had a lovely reality show about it. My Dad always liked Seagal because he had a more serious persona than, say, Arnold. He paid more attention to handling guns properly, and that sort of thing. Now we know it's because he took his wannabe cosplaying very very seriously.
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Dec 25, 2017 07:33
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:And now we know he's also a sexual assaulter and pals with a bunch of corrupt, murderous third world dictators. The class of martial arts action stars that included Norris, Van Damme, Seagal, etc. was neat because they were close enough to the fans to appear at martial arts events. I heard from people who heard from people nothing but bad things about Seagal.
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Dec 25, 2017 23:18
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I'm hard-pressed to think of many big-budget action movies worse than Wild West West. Battlefield Earth, I suppose, but even Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever has more so-bad-it's-good, or at least holy-poo poo-they-did-that, moments. Wild West West just makes everyone in it look bad. It seems like the best pure action movies these days are stuff that winds up in the "gratuitous B movie" sluices of Netflix, like the Universal Soldier sequels, Undisputed, and so on, and Asian imports.
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Dec 30, 2017 06:14
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dont even fink about it posted:People didn't really buy Ecks vs. Sever even at the time, probably because it studiously gives them everything they indicated they wanted to buy, in one lazy package. It's a decent cultural artifact now, but it's hardly the only Matrix ripoff and probably not even the worst of them.
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Dec 31, 2017 04:00
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The sequel discarded too much of the "feel" of the original in favour of being just plain wacky. It could have gotten away with being more over the top than the first one, if it wasn't too much like all the crappy indie films that do stuff like rip on Plan 9 from Outer Space.
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Dec 31, 2017 18:11
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Hey guys, I'm assembling a watchlist of the B-movies from the sub-subgenre that overlaps The Warriors and Escape from New York. Anything I'm missing that's worth watching? The New Barbarians Steel Dawn 1990: The Bronx Warriors Bronx Warriors 2: Escape from the Bronx 2019: After the Fall of New York The Running Man Endgame Turkey Shoot
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Thanks for the recommends! I thought I had about everything in this genre covered, but there are several there that I hadn't even heard of. I mean, I figure there are always going to be some really Z-grade ones that aren't worth watching, but how did I not know that Fulci had directed a film in this subgenre? (You could probably just call them guerrieri films, but I don't expect that to catch on.) As an extremely cheap overambitious sci-fi film, The Bronx Executioner sounds like it should have been featured on MST3K alongside Overdrawn at the Memory Bank and Space Mutiny. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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Jan 2, 2018 05:23
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Oh god the king of overused awful slow-mo is The Boondock Saints. Every action scene is the exact same and it get extremely tedious towards the end, to the point where I cheered when they just shot a guy regularly. God what an awful movie. quote:Hell Comes To Frogtown has like one good scene right in the very beginning, and about 3 other lines of dialogue, but otherwise it’s an interminable slog.
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Jan 2, 2018 21:07
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Yeah, it comes from that extremely 90s aesthetic of raging against an ossified status quo, that made it cool to be antisocial for no reason. I think it goes beyond Tarantino, but he made it into a phenomenon big enough that a douchebag like Troy Duffy could ride it to a movie deal.
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Jan 2, 2018 22:02
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I always get Buckaroo Banzai and Six String Samurai confused.
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Jan 3, 2018 05:29
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Anyone ever see The Devil's Brigade? For a movie about a team of losers and misfits who become deadly killers, it's loving silly.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:43
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I suppose the earliest would have to be Groucho Marx.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:01
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Wheat Loaf posted:Possibly The Bourne Identity? Once you go back far enough, you gotta start counting Westerns and "adventure" films too. I'm not sure when "action" emerged as a genre, but Bullitt is one of the first I can think of.
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Jan 5, 2018 15:50
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Wheat Loaf posted:I'm reminded of something I'm not keen on: dvds that make old movies look like direct-to-video movies from 2007. I will give you some examples:
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Jan 5, 2018 17:32
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Jesus Christ, I'm glad I got it on DVD and have no plans to upgrade. To be fair, the DVD cover, while better, implies that it's a zombie movie.
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Jan 5, 2018 19:56
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My parents were oddly prudish about certain things, and they forbade me from renting a lot of horror movies with really good box art. This was a blessing in disguise; they were almost universally complete poo poo. I mean, I missed Sleepaway Camp and some so-bad-it's-good stuff, but I also missed Dracula vs. Frankenstein. I swear, the one at my local video store was a plastic box with an embossed cover. It ruled. This is what the film looks like: 
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Jan 5, 2018 20:17
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I've never really been interested in seeing Tango & Cash, but now I am, because Brion James is in it. Have I gone completely around the bend with B-movie fandom?
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Jan 8, 2018 18:11
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I don't know what movies or serious movies were the ones that changed the game, but it's only recently that guys like Arnold, Stallone, and JCVD aren't exceptions anymore. Bruce Willis and Nicholas Cage are some others who rarely or never got really jacked up for their roles. I don't remember Matt Damon being in ridiculous shape to do the first Bourne movie, but then of course he was jacked up by the last one. (Granted, even in that, it's not like he went all the way to a bodybuilder physique.) When it comes to martial artists, Jackie Chan was extremely cut when he was young, following Bruce Lee, but size wasn't a big deal. Now he has no need to put his body through that. Donnie Yen didn't bulk up until he did a movie with Vin Diesel. Chuck Norris was always in shape, but he looked like a normal human being. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Fart City posted:Nicolas Cage was pretty jacked in Con Air, but I think that was a one-and-done. Come to think of it, did he ever have another outright “spinkick a motherfucker in the face” action movie after that? I’m not talking about Ghost Rider, but a movie where he was presented as being able to do legit martial arts poo poo. Because I’m coming up blank, and you would have thought the success of that movie would have changed his course trajectory, kind of like how Wesley Snipes went from drama to martial arts action star. I wish John Cusack had done more martial arts in his movies. He started training under Benny Urquidez for the role in Say Anything... and kept at it for years. It's just weird that he's more of a legit martial artist than most action stars, and he only puts those skills to work in comedies.
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Neo Rasa posted:Uh, Arnold? LesterGroans posted:That beefcake shot of him walking out of the water in tiny shorts was pretty smart marketing. La Perla must have sold thousands of men's swimsuits. Wheat Loaf posted:Jackman's thing is that he works out really, really hard before he does an X-Men movie, then lets it go once he's finished until the next one's ready to start. Wheat Loaf posted:One thing that's always bothered me about Con Air is that Cameron Poe shows up in a redneck bar in full dress uniform and still has some guys try to pick a fight instead of buy him a drink. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Jan 12, 2018 18:33
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The Keysi Fighting Method in Jack Reacher is very bad. I hope that fad is dead now.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Were you the one that typed up that hilarious post about KFM?
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Frankly, I think the prominence of action stars pushing 60 are about a demographic change in who watches action movies. Same reason that the Guardians of the Galaxy movies have soundtracks that are novel to young people and a treat for Dad. (Or if, like me, you're in-between demographics but your parents raised you on a lot of popular music spanning a quarter-century.)
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Did I miss a conversation about how Bright was abominably dumb? It was real stupid, y'all.Wheat Loaf posted:As I've said before in the thread, I have a hard time thinking of war movies as "action movies".
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Lobok posted:I missed the word "fight" originally and was gonna say "Oh yeah, back in the 90s when action films still did sex scenes." JCVD has never done a movie where he's in the middle of a furry gangbang. He did do one where he just walks around a hotel room naked for several minutes. That's when I turned off Pound of Flesh. Not that he's gross or anything, I hope I look that good at 55
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Oh poo poo, I thought they were just reusing props and sets from Masters of the Universe to save money. It's official. Underworld: Rise of the Lycans is set in Middle-Earth.
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The Pirates movies were successful, but don't seem to have inspired a new wave of adventure films. The few films that come to mind were flops, like John Carter and I guess the new Mummy movie.
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Fart City posted:One of the reasons Silence works so well is because Hannibal is presented as more of an abstract concept or force of nature than a human being. He has superhuman abilities: he can smell Clarice's perfume, capable of seemingly insane feats of strength, and his penchant for pageantry defies any realistic limitations, such as how is he capable of flaying/crucifying a guard, stealing the face of another, and setting up the elevator distraction in such a short amount of time.
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Also Universal Soldier 3 and 4. Day of Reckoning has Scott Adkins too.
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Yeah, Hannibal in Silence is a 50 year old man who's been confined to a small cell for several years, yet he has catlike reflexes and incredible strength. It really reached its apogee in Hannibal Rising when it apparently became clear to Thomas Harris that Hannibal had become some kind of antihero purely on the strength of being a popular character in the movie adaptations. So he wrote a prequel where his abilities are explained as samurai training and his victims are Nazis.
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edit: dp b/c this thread is talking about the same stuff as TG.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:There's almost zero Arthurian legend in Richie's King Arthur. It's one of his lad movies with a magic sword. Neo Rasa posted:I think it definitely does. I mean I don't think Demme was particularly influenced by Tarantino, but when you look at the reactions to the Hannibal character its many imitators, I mean this was the time when as a kid I could walk into a comic book store and buy trading cards of serial killers. The serial killer was definitely the monster of the 90s.
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I watched a lot of 90s action movies back to back and they all just feel so samey. Waterworld, Ghosts of Mars, they're all just shot in this very functional style. And Super Mario Bros serves as a really awful example of the formula.
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What started the trend of action movies with set-pieces that are like a giant Rube Goldberg device that takes a very long time to play out? I suppose it was the Pirates of the Caribbean revival. I wish that it had really revived the adventure film as a genre, instead.
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muscles like this! posted:Carpenter sued the filmmakers and court decided that yes, it was Escape from New York... In Space and that they owed him a lot of money.
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