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Breadallelogram posted:It's very funny to compare valve's public image 10 years ago to today Pretend I unironically quoted "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Leal posted:I wonder if Valve refunded the guy his hundred or if they pocketed it. What does your heart tell you
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Wamdoodle posted:Pretend I unironically quoted "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." On one hand, steam likes money On the other, they hate chargebacks
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Jun 6, 2018 22:45
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They have a thing where you get the $100 fee back if you gross $1000 in sales, IIRC. I wasn't paying much attention to those specific games, so I dunno if they would have hit that.
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Leal posted:I also like their thing of "what is defined as a game". I dunno valve, maybe it can have a loving executable? Don't act like steam has taken money for games that literally don't have an executable. That's them trying to touch on the controversy (read: dogwhistle bullshit) surrounding walking sims like Gone Home or stuff like Mountain. It's an amazingly pointless distinction because of what you said, and also because Steam isn't solely a marketplace for games anyway.
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Jun 6, 2018 23:02
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John Murdoch posted:That's them trying to touch on the controversy (read: dogwhistle bullshit) surrounding walking sims like Gone Home or stuff like Mountain. It's an amazingly pointless distinction because of what you said, and also because Steam isn't solely a marketplace for games anyway. Who the gently caress in Valve even believes that bullshit, surely a multi-billion dollar company can withstand people thinking that Depression Quest can isn't a game?
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Shadow225 posted:It's been a while since I have paid attention to PC. What are some good indie jams from the last say, 2 years, that I should look for in the upcoming Steam sale? I've been playing Immortal Redneck a bit this morning since I got it in the chrono.gg sale, it's pretty decent.
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Junkfist posted:With all the hentai pussy coming my way I'LL be an Active Shooter woo baby I'm ready to NUT. 
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Propaganda Hour posted:I, for one, am glad that valve are fully abdicating their responsibility to curate their store so that we can get thousands more titles like this: Right, all their talk of filters is useless. At best you can filter out anime assuming there is nothing there you want. If you filter out sexual content for example you'd hit Witcher, Mass Effect. And none of those would remove the thousands of super low effort garbage "games". Even if they add publisher/developer there's as many of those as games and the garbage flippers change their name often.
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Jun 7, 2018 00:16
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Someone should make an adblocker like plug-in that filters out shovelware. Edit: Maybe Valve can add group curated blacklists to these upcoming tools.
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Jun 7, 2018 00:21
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Best I can tell, their filters don't work whatsoever. I have VR games filtered and they still show up everywhere.
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Jun 7, 2018 00:23
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Filters aren't a solution. If I block anime then there goes S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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Carecat posted:Right, all their talk of filters is useless. At best you can filter out anime assuming there is nothing there you want. If you filter out sexual content for example you'd hit Witcher, Mass Effect. And none of those would remove the thousands of super low effort garbage "games". Even if they add publisher/developer there's as many of those as games and the garbage flippers change their name often. Plus, if they intend to expand the tagging system so that users can filter out games like that, then any game that gets review-bombed is suddenly going to find itself tagged as an asset flip, since users are the ones who determine what tags apply to games and Steam's official position on inaccurate tags is "well, it looks like that's how users perceive your game".
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Jun 7, 2018 00:32
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Thuryl posted:Plus, if they intend to expand the tagging system so that users can filter out games like that, then any game that gets review-bombed is suddenly going to find itself tagged as an asset flip, since users are the ones who determine what tags apply to games and Steam's official position on inaccurate tags is "well, it looks like that's how users perceive your game". Then again I remember that Valve axed tags like "Mobile Port" because developers complained en masse
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Jun 7, 2018 00:38
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It's almost like handing any kind of (potential) financial control to gamers is basically giving rabid animals weaponry.
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Ikari Worrier posted:Then again I remember that Valve axed tags like "Mobile Port" because developers complained en masse I dunno if they still moderate such things, but reviews seem to be the weapon nowadays.
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Geomancing posted:Best I can tell, their filters don't work whatsoever. I have VR games filtered and they still show up everywhere.
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Jun 7, 2018 00:46
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Are the VR games you're seeing all-VR-all-the-time or games that have it bolted on as an extra feature like Overload? If it somehow differentiates between the two, that'd be interesting, but it's more likely that there's just some bug somewhere.
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The Kins posted:Are the VR games you're seeing all-VR-all-the-time or games that have it bolted on as an extra feature like Overload? If it somehow differentiates between the two, that'd be interesting, but it's more likely that there's just some bug somewhere. There is an option built into steam to filter VR games explicitly but the odd VR only game does slip through.
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Mokinokaro posted:There is an option built into steam to filter VR games explicitly but the odd VR only game does slip through.
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iGestalt posted:Yes please. I have 20,733 games seen on my queue and 20,630 as "Not Interested" and I still get tons of poo poo from the same sweatshop dev making GBS threads out "putin vs ISIS" asset flips. when tags came out there were some that said asset flip or whatever and of course valve removed them because thats bad for sales. so dont expect anything like that ever ok
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Jun 7, 2018 01:18
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Mind you, tags are not meant to completely hide a genre.
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Jun 7, 2018 01:21
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I don't understand how valve thinks the tag system is going to be even slightly useful for filtering when everyone has been jokingly mistagging everything since tags were introduced.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I don't understand how valve thinks the tag system is going to be even slightly useful for filtering when everyone has been jokingly mistagging everything since tags were introduced.   Looks like its working fine to me 
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Jun 7, 2018 01:24
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corn in the bible posted:when tags came out there were some that said asset flip or whatever and of course valve removed them because thats bad for sales. so dont expect anything like that ever ok they also removed a "Mobile Game" tag that was great to filter out the crappy phone ports
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Jun 7, 2018 01:34
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CapnAndy posted:There's no way to read that policy other than "start the Rapelay ports". no, it'll be: Honey Select 2, now with integrated Workshop support! Developer: Illusion Publisher: FAKKU
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Jun 7, 2018 01:37
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Samuringa posted:they also removed a "Mobile Game" tag that was great to filter out the crappy phone ports I'm pissed they removed that, there's definitely a couple games I wouldn't have purchased had I known in advance were crappy mobile game ports. Like, if it's a problem for the devs they could try putting more effort into their lovely ports.
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Jun 7, 2018 01:38
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Looks like people are already gonna try finding if there's any boundaries by way of a "more shameless pandering" version of what I understand to be a pretty crappy horror game. https://twitter.com/AgonyGame/status/1004508687732559872
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Det_no posted:Mind you, tags are not meant to completely hide a genre. I can't even work out where this page is and I've used steam for 14 years.
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Propaganda Hour posted:Keep in mind that Valve have already have a bad reputation of not blocking "illegal" and "troll" content from their store. I've seen this a few times. https://www.pcmag.com/news/361461/creator-of-active-shooter-speaks-out-im-no-psychopath tl,dr: wasn't that guy, but someone he knew
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Carecat posted:I can't even work out where this page is and I've used steam for 14 years. It could definitely be made more visible, yeah.
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Morter posted:I have a feeling it's the 'burst' stat. Compare with more repetitively described guns! What game is this?
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for those trying to play totally accurate battlegrounds; ready up, reload the menu, ready up again
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Gamerofthegame posted:for those trying to play totally accurate battlegrounds;
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corn in the bible posted:when tags came out there were some that said asset flip or whatever and of course valve removed them because thats bad for sales. so dont expect anything like that ever ok I remember there was also an LGBT tag that they had to remove because it was used more for trolling than for actually marking games with LGBT content, which is kinda funny on some level but also tells you something about how useful the current tagging system is.
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Turd Herder posted:What game is this? A not-so-good game that one goon friend considered "EDF with school girls" School Girl/Zombie Hunter. It's campy but I'm sorta enjoying it.
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Samuringa posted:they also removed a "Mobile Game" tag that was great to filter out the crappy phone ports it was also funny because it would tell you which tags you had the most of and mine were "russian" and "weird"
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Can anyone recommend something RPG-ish (but not turn based) that has a lot of good grinding and leveling up? Even a F2P MMO is fine if the combat is good. Thanks.
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lol https://store.steampowered.com/app/682570/SGZH_School_GirlZombie_Hunter/ 
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Bottom Liner posted:Can anyone recommend something RPG-ish that has a lot of good grinding and leveling up? Even a F2P MMO is fine if the combat is good. Thanks. My immediate thought would be the Disgaea games, with levels going up to 9999
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Bottom Liner posted:Can anyone recommend something RPG-ish (but not turn based) that has a lot of good grinding and leveling up? Even a F2P MMO is fine if the combat is good. Thanks. i mean any mobile game like granblue or girls' frontline or fate grand order or fire emblem whatever fits the bill p much
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