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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Coucho Marx posted:

There's actually one episode ('Home') that talks about this in a meta sort of way - characters in the story talk about how their once quiet home is changing, growing closer to the cities, if not physically then at least culturally. It's hard for what's going on in the story to happen again, as time and technology advances and everything becomes so much more interconnected than before.

It's also a loving great episode, super creepy. Beautifully shot, too.

That's the first episode that had the THIS poo poo IS DISTURBING YOU MAY NOT WANT TO SEE IT warning before it.

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Sucker Punch has enough good parts to be savable with some heavy edits and a bit if additional dialog. It'd still be a crap tier movie of course, but it could be a beloved one rather than a reviled one.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oldpainless posted:

People were not created to be in monogamous relationships.

Trivially true since people were not created.


Serial monogamy seems like the most "natural" state for humans, but we are free to choose whatever

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Season 10 of the X files was good, but that is a strange edge case, probably.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Riptor posted:

it was total garbage actually

Wizard Master is that you?

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
DS9 and ENT mirror universe everyone is a BDSM lesbian now thing is a bit hosed up too. They made the characters more titillating and more chaotic, but mostly just sexed up the women. The main reason it's problematic is that these are the "evil" versions of the characters. Become more evil? Better make them gay/bi

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Rough Lobster posted:

Sam Raimi's Spider-Man isn't a TV show.

This isn't the things I can't believe I just figured out thread

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I think the crassening of the Simpsons was part of its downfall too. Once they showed Ned's doodle on TV it was the end of an era.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bean_shadow posted:

I think he went overboard in that a few blog posts by Peter and Valentine made them some of the most powerful people on Earth and it eventually made Peter ruler. Like they would stand out that much.

Sure, but the technology of people reading the news on their "desk" and sending instant messages of literally :dong: was pretty spot on

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

SiKboy posted:

Honestly, if I'm working from multiple documents then I find it way easier to have them both on separate screens* than it is to keep flicking back and forth on the same screen, so that seems reasonable to me.

*I mean, I generally print poo poo out in this case, but y'know, star trek. Although couldnt they use a replicator as a printer if they needed a hard copy of a document?

Picard ordered printouts and hand delivery of orders in season one once.

I'm sure there is a whole bay of tractor feed dot matrix printers on the same deck as cetacean ops.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
in WWIII France was conquered by the English

not really, well maybe no one knows. in one episode there is a throwaway joke from Data about French being a dead language

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Kingdom posted:

A general question for all:

Does a show having a few episodes that are now considered offensive affect your enjoyment of that show as a whole?

A few years ago, I got into a discussion about Get Smart for some reason. I liked the show, but am now a racist, apparently, because there was an episode where Smart dressed up as a stereotypical Native American.

No. At least, not always. Much of MASH, All in the Family, and TOS Trek is sexist or otherwise offensive by today's standards but they all ranged from loving hella progressive to scandalously subversive for their time and they all remain excellent now as long as you have some perspective and context.

More offensive is something like the Andy Griffith show where there wasn't overt racism simply because they erased minorites from existence rather than deal with Injustice.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

RC and Moon Pie posted:

It's a bit more complex. Griffith certainly didn't do all he could have done.

There were African-American extras on the Andy Griffith Show. There was one black actor with a speaking part: Rockne Tarkington, who played Opie's football coach in a later, color episode. Opie thinks he has to choose between football and piano and Tarkington shows him he can do both.

Griffith was questioned at the time. He said that prominent black citizens simply wouldn't exist in the Andy Taylor world. To an extent, that would have been true. Griffith said that if Mayberry had a black doctor, no white citizen would have used him. And they wouldn't. That said, realism stopped with the Andy Griffith Show with the jail key left on the hook between the cells and the kookiness of the town in the color episodes. Of course, there could have easily been more interaction with black citizens in Mayberry on the show.

The Andy Griffith Show was a mix of 1930s nostalgia in a 1960s setting. The show only once mentioned Vietnam, too, and that was in passing. There was a reference to marijuana. The black and white episodes were almost entirely devoid of pop culture and the color ones didn't get specific about pop culture, except for a ridiculous computer dating episode. CBS' rural shows had no intention of changing the world and that's ultimately what killed all of them. CBS saw where the wind was blowing and canceled a heap of them..

I appreciate the effort in your post.

I still think that the very fact that they didn't challenge the views on the things you mentioned makes them a worse show than the ones I mentioned that pushed the envelope

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

SpacePig posted:

I'm pretty sure a guard would notice a prisoner watching child porn on the prison AV cart or whatever.

"Whaddya gonna do? Throw me in jail?"

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

loving american audiobooks calling solder "sodder" makes me want to die

Seek help immediately if pronunciation variability makes you suicidal.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Arivia posted:

I did but they kept wanting to “institutionalise” me so I had to kill them.

idgi is this another brit triggering yankism or something

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I heard it was whalers

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

zoux posted:

Not featuring the titutlar showpiece of a program in the first episode is just so Anime Pacing. You wanna see some action? Well first, here's a shitload of exposition.

See also: the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Tiggum posted:

So to any parents I say, don't let your kids spend their money on lovely knockoffs. Convince them to keep saving for the proper version to avoid disappointment.

Yeah, maybe.

I bought this


Instead of saving an extra month for this



And while it did turn out disappointing, I certainly learned that lesson in a more visceral, lasting way than if I'd just been forced/convinced to wait.

Awesome fying space lions? Nah. Dumptruck.


It was still pretty good :unsmith:

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

John Murdoch posted:

Apropos of nothing else, I remembered that show Viper, which was about the coolest Dodge Viper full of gadgets ever. I'm sure it hasn't aged a day.

VIPER and it's contemporary MANTIS were the Agents of SHIELD of their day.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Ujh79pkwg
GARF

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Batman TAS has held up very well. Gargoyles almost as well.

I wonder about ExoSquad because I haven't seen it since it aired but my memory of it, at least, is pretty badass.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Leavemywife posted:

I just remembered the Mummies Alive cartoon. I remember it being kickass when I was a kid. I'm absolutely terrified to track it down now.

It's pretty bad

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Mighty Ducks is fine, but if you want to talk about a badass cartoon with Tim Curry that holds up forever and ever...




Mighty Max

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

artsy fartsy posted:

I love the episode where he doesn't hit on the short and curvy nurse, and is completely oblivious to her overtures toward him. She calls him on being a shallow rear end in a top hat, he feels bad and decides he wants to pity bang her--but when he goes to her tent she's already got a hot piece of man flesh waiting inside for her, hahaha.

She was a great character overall.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Precambrian posted:

Harry Morgan's delivery on "If they can keep inventing better ways to kill people, why can't they invent a way to end this STUPID WAR" just really just sticks with me.

That is a good moment

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I always thought That 70s Show did it as part of the 70s vibe but I might be giving it too much credit.




Also, having grown up with laugh tracks on stuff it feels really weird to watch shows like MASH without them.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
After seeing Mel B on America's Got Talent for a couple seasons, I could not be less surprised that she didn't "get" the point of a satirical comedy show. Or of anything, really.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Kingdom posted:

My favorite US sitcoms like MASH, Cheers, Frasier, etc, could have easily been halved and still not have lost anything.

True in retrospect, but the really good episodes are spaced throughout and even the not-so-good episodes usually have at least one really good moment. MASH specifically only has a small handful of total stinkers out of like a billion episodes.

You could certainly pack some of the good bits from multiple episodes together and make half as many though, sure.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

purple death ray posted:

Nothing involving Rob Schneider has aged well, and that includes Rob Schneider

Judge Dredd is still good. Of course, it's mostly good in spite of Schneider rather than because of him.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
If you don't think clownpenis.fart is still funny I just don't know what to say.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

wyoming posted:

Speaking of racism on the Simpsons, caught some episode from 2002 the other day that opens with them going to Springfield's Chinatown and it's full of poo poo like "Toys L Us"
Like, goddamn.

I'm like a woke super bleeding heart leftist pinko who doesn't miss a pride parade and thinks we should accept infinity refugees but I just can't get worked up over accent jokes.

Like I can't imagine that being particularly insulting to Asians. As a monoglot American, the fact that someone speaks a second language with an accent still makes them better than me, language-wise.

I'll update my opinions if I hear that this is really a problem, but it seems like literally the lowest priority poo poo. Like Fa-ra-ra-ra-Ra in A Christmas Story... Those people were being really nice and in no way were the butt of anything.

If that was just a part of a larger insult I'd feel differently, but if it's accent alone... Ehh.

Can I keep my libcard?

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oldpainless posted:

Racism is ok, gotcha

More like old misser of the point




Really more like I don't fit that into "racism" because it's merely a (supposedly humorous) observation about an accent, not a race. It also isn't insulting about anyone at all. Again, though, I'm open to hear about harm and change my mind.

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Making a joke about an accent or "doing" an accent just doesn't seem disparaging to me I guess. Racism is about negative stereotypes or harm. It seems to dilute the term when it applies to acknowledging that an accent exists.

Multiple large latino organizations have said Speedy Gonzales is a cultural icon and not racist, for example. He is a positive role model but he does have a strong accent.

We poke fun at all sorts of accents that aren't race specific like "southern" and "new yorker" and "midwestern" and I don't see why "indian" or "chinese" is any different as long as that's all it is.



ONCE AGAIN I am concerned about racism, and want to understand. I am clearly not saying racism is OK or anything close and anyone saying I am is being disingenuous or moronic. Perhaps I am culturally blind to the harm it causes but I don't see a negative stereotype being perpetuated or anything in just using an accent or joking that German needs phlegm or saying "Sacre bleu" in a phony french accent. Is the foreign language dub game in Whose Line terribly racist? It's just gibberish with an accent.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Thanks to any serious replies.
I suppose people with strong accents always sounded more intelligent to me because poo poo they know more languages than I do!

Also where I grew up there were a lot of people with strong accents but they were the richest most successful people like doctors and lawyers and visiting professors and whatnot and their kids were usually the ones better than me in school subjects, so it was more a badge of honor than anything else. I still briefly get genuinely mistified when people ape a "bad" accent as evidence of dumbness because holy poo poo if you're so smart why don't you just speak in their language.

I'll just say mea culpa that people are always worse than I give them credit for and it's best to avoid the entire shitshow lest you either accidentally perpetuate that poo poo or appear to be an rear end in a top hat. I never made the "verbal blackface" connection probably because I've never really thought about the topic much at all before. So, again thanks to the genuine replies.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Besesoth posted:

Okay, so this has been done to death already, but I just want to point one more thing out: most Chinese dialects distinguish between "l" and "r" in a lot of cases.

When you see things like "Toys L Us" in Chinatown, it's ascribing to Chinese people a Japanese stereotype.

That's orientalism, and it's racist.
That's actually very interesting. I don't know either language well enough to make the distinction myself.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
It's JarJar!

Remember JarJar?

He's back! In fidget spinner form!

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Super low effort. 0.5/10

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Finally watching Twin Peaks for the first time. David Duchovny's character and every bit if dialog around them is a bit cringey now but actually seems like it must have been progressive as gently caress at the time.


GrandpaPants posted:

I forget, how many teachers in Boston Public wanted to or did sleep with students? I know at least one did, and he got fired for it.

Maybe :thejoke: but Ally McBeal and Boston Public take place in the same universe, along with the practice, Boston legal etc.

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

hawowanlawow posted:

at least the superior second Ace Ventura film remains an unwatchable crapstack

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