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Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

8bit Theater was one of the comics that got me into webcomics. I will absolutely buy the pdf and maybe kick in an extra 8 bucks to get my name in the book, but not the actual physical book, are you kidding, even twenty years later I'm still broke as all hell.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Pyroclastic posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bclev/8-bit-theater-20th-anniversary-book-wait-20-years-son-of-a

Well, that's one way to do something with the borderline-infringing long-running strip that basically got you a real job!
What's actually got me getting the PDF is A) $8, B) supporting one of my first favorite webcomics, and C) reading the script/author commentary side-by-side with rereading the comic sounds like exactly the sort of titanic waste of time that I'd absolutely love to lose myself in.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Loving the irony of a pixel art webcomic not being high enough DPI for printing. (Although come on I bet you could ESRGAN it well enough)

(E: got curious about that and ran a few panels through the models I have at hand, most of which aren't targeted for this, best I got still has a bit of blah on some of the letters but it's not half bad - SOURCE / RESULT. Could probably do great with a wider search of models. Biggest trouble I think is that I'm pretty sure all of the images were originally gifs so they've been dithered to hell, I'd probably get better results running one of those and then an upscale but this is as far as my curiosity is going to take me tonight)

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Apr 20, 2021

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Galvanik posted:

I liked when Avatar Legend of Kora came out and readers saw a new fetish awaken in real time as Kimiko morphed from a waif into a muscle girl.

A more recent example is a new-ish character who resembles Mirko from My Hero Academia even while Diaz complains about some of MHA's sexualized character designs, or as Alaois so succinctly put it above: "fetishes for me, not for thee."

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



MikeJF posted:

Loving the irony of a pixel art webcomic not being high enough DPI for printing. (Although come on I bet you could ESRGAN it well enough)

(E: got curious about that and ran a few panels through the models I have at hand, most of which aren't targeted for this, best I got still has a bit of blah on some of the letters but it's not half bad - SOURCE / RESULT. Could probably do great with a wider search of models. Biggest trouble I think is that I'm pretty sure all of the images were originally gifs so they've been dithered to hell, I'd probably get better results running one of those and then an upscale but this is as far as my curiosity is going to take me tonight)

Yeah, this is a project from the early ages of webcomics. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever sprite rips he was originally working with were web resolution. Hardly anybody had it in mind that print was a goal so you'll find a lot of artists at the time only had web resolution files as their "master" copies. It's wild to think about now.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Well when it comes to pixel art sprite rips there's not exactly web resolution or print resolution in the sources, they're all 16x16 pixels or whatever and you sharp size them to whatever you want. It's the rest of the art and word balloons that are the problem.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


I really want the physical book because it’s such a bizarre artifact: a kickstarted print book of the script pages of a stolen sprite webcomic.

It’s like a wax cylinder recording of a Lincoln speech, or something. There is exactly one place in time and space such a thing could exist, and this is it.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

I gotta say, I'm really enjoying everything about Archer in A Distant Sky.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

To me it's something that is like a soap opera. It's not bad, it's not great and it generated some moments of joy and I'm glad the person working on it is getting paid. Sometimes it's nice just to have things that are decent.

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged

Tenebrais posted:

I gotta say, I'm really enjoying everything about Archer in A Distant Sky.

Man, nothing like being an actual imposter to make the imposter syndrome come fast and hard, though I wonder when he’ll figure out absolutely none of them know what they’re doing.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner

Josef bugman posted:

To me it's something that is like a soap opera. It's not bad, it's not great and it generated some moments of joy and I'm glad the person working on it is getting paid. Sometimes it's nice just to have things that are decent.

I don't know as I'd use the word decent, but this does sum it up for me. I'm not hate reading it, it got its hooks in me by not being bad and managing to be interesting enough for reasons I criticize but are effective that I don't feel like I'm wasting the time it takes to open and read it each day. Which is impressive in it's own way, because there have been comics I consider great that went through periods I felt like that about.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Ironslave posted:

I don't know as I'd use the word decent, but this does sum it up for me. I'm not hate reading it, it got its hooks in me by not being bad and managing to be interesting enough for reasons I criticize but are effective that I don't feel like I'm wasting the time it takes to open and read it each day. Which is impressive in it's own way, because there have been comics I consider great that went through periods I felt like that about.

That's fair enough. Keep safe!

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

Welcome Back, Galaxy Geek.
From John Allison's Instagram



John Allison posted:

I start writing a new Steeple story arc tomorrow. In my head, Steeple is about an emotionally repressed father who wants some peace and quiet, beset by daughters and his mother. It’s a family sitcom. The current crossover just adds a niece. I find the more daughters and nieces I add, the more his predicament delights me.

The crossover Allison is referring to is the current Author Unknown? story line, which brings Shelley Winters and Lottie Grote to Tredregyn. I've been posting it in the comic strip thread.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk
Hopefully this is okay to post here. This week is the first time I haven't updated my webcomic since 2014. I'm taking a break to focus on my animation.

It feels weird, NGL, but at the same time I feel a sense of relief. I did two webcomics concurrently in five of those years, and I don't miss it.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
tails gets trolled has come to a premature end today :(

https://twitter.com/tailsgottrolled/status/1386861508504670209

so long you wacky little one of a kind oddity. you contributed an enormous amount of funny stuff to comics, asserting that quality is more than just surface level aesthetics and that there is great value even in the most busted-seeming things


Mister Beeg posted:

Hopefully this is okay to post here. This week is the first time I haven't updated my webcomic since 2014. I'm taking a break to focus on my animation.

It feels weird, NGL, but at the same time I feel a sense of relief. I did two webcomics concurrently in five of those years, and I don't miss it.

i forgot to update mine like 3 weeks ago and i still feel like i disrupted the flow of the universe. show us your stuff when you're done! and link your comic again so we can binge it while you're working

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
I did not know TGT ever resumed. drat, now I have a lot to read.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

fun hater posted:

i forgot to update mine like 3 weeks ago and i still feel like i disrupted the flow of the universe. show us your stuff when you're done! and link your comic again so we can binge it while you're working

I fully get you. I treated my webcomic as a job (and it kinda is, since I have a Patreon)

Here's mine! I have over 600 pages of comics in the archive - http://fuzzy-princess.com/ (I had two other webcomics before that, but they're both done now.)

I'm not done with the characters and concept, fwiw. I'm making a web animated short featuring the characters right now. I'm hoping I can transition to doing web animation entirely, but I want to actually finish this cartoon first. You can see my past animation on my YouTube in the meantime.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

fun hater posted:

tails gets trolled has come to a premature end today :(

https://twitter.com/tailsgottrolled/status/1387172167284977667

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

KC Green's BACK ended today http://backcomic.com/

It was pretty good, I suggest giving it a read.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

Click this link, not that one:

http://backcomic.com/1

Also worth mentioning for some extra eyeballs I think: this is a collaboration between KC Green and Anthony Clark of Nedroid.

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Apr 29, 2021

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
Has anybody noticed how Sinfest has grown even crazier? It used to be weird and out-of-touch militant feminism, but starting in summer 2020, Tatsuya Ishida seems to have caught the MAGA Q-Anon bug. He's now complaining about oppressive woke people and tech corporations.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Kurzon posted:

Has anybody noticed how Sinfest has grown even crazier? It used to be weird and out-of-touch militant feminism, but starting in summer 2020, Tatsuya Ishida seems to have caught the MAGA Q-Anon bug. He's now complaining about oppressive woke people and tech corporations.

Ishida is a massive transphobe; view everything relatively recent in that light and it all makes perfect sense.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Kurzon posted:

Has anybody noticed how Sinfest has grown even crazier? It used to be weird and out-of-touch militant feminism, but starting in summer 2020, Tatsuya Ishida seems to have caught the MAGA Q-Anon bug. He's now complaining about oppressive woke people and tech corporations.

I remember how cool and edgy I thought Sinfest was when I was in high school, lol that it's literal bible thumper propaganda now

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
As far as I can tell, Ishida believes that pornography is evil and that sex work is evil (and to a much lesser degree, that gay men are evil). He doesn't have any other genuine principles, but he'll adopt positions out of convenience if they're aligned with the two things he actually cares about.

He've moving on from TERFs specifically to the CHUD movement generally, presumably because it seems more popular or makes for a better grift.

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit
I was suprised he went all based given his past militant feminism, but in retrospect his "feminism" wasn't all that progressive. His message was that prostitution and porn are bad. That's something that liberals and conservatives agree on. He never dealt with other feminist issues such as job discrimination and sexual harassment and the glass ceiling. Moreover, hookers flaunting their bodies in window booths is something you see only in highly liberal cities like Amsterdam. You don't find that stuff in super-conservative countries like Indonesia and Pakistan.

I kept reading Sinfest because I like the art, and before 2020 there seemed to be some actual character arcs, but now it's just weird ranting about modern culture, in a very out-of-touch way that makes perfect sense for a MAGAhead.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3953823&pagenumber=192&perpage=40#post514427253

Sinfest is regularly discussed in the political comics thread since it has become indistinguishable from right-wing editorial comics.

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
D&Ds politoon thread been following it for a bit now. Unhinged is an understatement

Edit: should probably have refreshed thread. Was reading through Back

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Kurzon posted:

I was suprised he went all based given his past militant feminism, but in retrospect his "feminism" wasn't all that progressive. His message was that prostitution and porn are bad. That's something that liberals and conservatives agree on. He never dealt with other feminist issues such as job discrimination and sexual harassment and the glass ceiling. Moreover, hookers flaunting their bodies in window booths is something you see only in highly liberal cities like Amsterdam. You don't find that stuff in super-conservative countries like Indonesia and Pakistan.

The one overarching element that ties together Ishida's worldview across all the wildly different moods and ideologies that Sinfest has espoused throughout its run is: he really likes drawing provocative women accompanied by judgmental commentary on them. The rationale behind the judgment has changed and changed and changed again but the women remain as a pure and unchanging beacon of hate.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Rand Brittain posted:

He've moving on from TERFs specifically to the CHUD movement generally, presumably because it seems more popular or makes for a better grift.

And that doesn't even seem to work very well. I mean $1000/month Patreon money is nothing to spit at, but for a comic that has been relatively well-known for 20 years, updates consistently and has a good art, it feels like it's seriously underperforming. Currently he's getting 30% less than he did in 2018.

There seems to have been a ~15% uptick during the last summer's unrest, but it has come back down since then.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Kurzon posted:

I kept reading Sinfest because I like the art, and before 2020 there seemed to be some actual character arcs, but now it's just weird ranting about modern culture, in a very out-of-touch way that makes perfect sense for a MAGAhead.



So this is just outright fash poo poo. I guess the TERF-to-Nazi pipeline really does go through Spinster to Gab.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

What's amazing about Sinfest is how the metaphors have become incredibly incoherent and he keeps clinging to these past trappings and structures of his strips despite it making no loving sense. He keeps carrying a printer for the idea of Baby New Year literally representing a year and these start becoming the underlying thrust of an entire year's plot.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
The Sinfest arc is baffling as poo poo until I figured that it really has always been about controlling women from the very beginning. Whether it was for making them more palatable wank material or "for their own good" terf poo poo, it all comes back to control.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



Joe Slowboat posted:

So this is just outright fash poo poo. I guess the TERF-to-Nazi pipeline really does go through Spinster to Gab.

TERFism is so wrapped up in the standards of femininity and gender roles as laid out by white supremacy it's surprising it took this long for the mask to slip, honestly.

Kurzon
May 10, 2013

by Hand Knit

the holy poopacy posted:

The one overarching element that ties together Ishida's worldview across all the wildly different moods and ideologies that Sinfest has espoused throughout its run is: he really likes drawing provocative women accompanied by judgmental commentary on them. The rationale behind the judgment has changed and changed and changed again but the women remain as a pure and unchanging beacon of hate.
I never looked at it that way. I took his storylines at face value: that Pimp-bot is enslaving women into prostitution and all men are sex-crazed fiends. I should have known better, because this storyline went on four years without any kind of resolution. The feminist underground wasn't doing much to stop the prostitution other than occasionally sabotaging a neon sign. Ishida just hates how sex-charged society has become.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner
Sinfest was never that good and had questionable attitudes to begin with, but about a decade ago I think Ishida got bitten by a radioactive scarecrow and gained all the powers of a man made of straw.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Kurzon posted:

I never looked at it that way. I took his storylines at face value: that Pimp-bot is enslaving women into prostitution and all men are sex-crazed fiends. I should have known better, because this storyline went on four years without any kind of resolution. The feminist underground wasn't doing much to stop the prostitution other than occasionally sabotaging a neon sign. Ishida just hates how sex-charged society has become.

For someone who hates how sex-charged society has become he sure likes drawing sexualized women an awful lot.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Ironslave posted:

Sinfest was never that good and had questionable attitudes to begin with, but about a decade ago I think Ishida got bitten by a radioactive scarecrow and gained all the powers of a man made of straw.

It is admittedly a webcomic even when people seemed to like it I never really got the value of. Like it felt it tried to crib to varying degrees comic strips like Bloom County or Calvin & Hobbes and was never good as either.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME
Oh hey, those two are finally back in Never Satisfied!

Daktar
Aug 19, 2008

I done turned 'er head into a slug an' now she's a-stucked!
It's been said before on these forums, but all early webcomics had to do to attract an audience was to have halfway decent art and come out on a regular schedule. And sometimes not even those!

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SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

8-Bit Theater 20th Annivesary Kickstarter. Brian Clevinger is publishing a script book of the whole series with no sprites in order to not deal with any potential copyright infringement.

Also he made an appearance promoting it on Drawfee, which I feel is pretty webcomic-adjacent. He's a really quiet guy.

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