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anilEhilated posted:That or rapists. To be fair most of the male characters are so obviously flawed that I actually suspected Billy of being some kind of closet psychopath for quite a while. Just so he'd fit in. I suspect that Billy and Lilah are both, in different ways, commentaries on the post-WW2 South. WW2 ended "The South" and "Southern Families" in a lot of ways; all that economic change washed those families away. The kids moved away or married "off"; if you go to, say, Charleston or Savannah today, and start moving in "old southern society" circles, you'll find very few Caskey types and a lot of Billy Bronzes -- people who married in or talked their way in, but who aren't actually "From Charleston" or "From Savannah" in the "there are streets named after my great-grandparents" sense. The people who did have that kind of direct connection (i.e., Lilah) decided they'd rather GTFO than keep dealing with the monsters. Billy's a perfectly nice guy, nothing wrong with him, but Oscar Caskey knew every tree within a hundred miles, and Elinor knew every rivulet; Billy is just a nice competent guy who knows numbers. It's another step in losing that connection with the land and the water; on the other hand, Billy doesn't get anyone eaten by ghosts or river monsters, either. One thing I didn't realize till I looked it up online: the Perdido River is literally the official boundary between Florida and Alabama.
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Sometimes I think there are so many rapists and terrible people in the town because McDowell ostensibly still wants it to be a horror story with gory deaths but doesn't want Elinor or her children to become less sympathetic to the audience by having them explicitly tear apart normal people. Like, the little child and the two soldiers get off relatively light compared to Trevor and Lee
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anilEhilated posted:That or rapists. To be fair most of the male characters are so obviously flawed that I actually suspected Billy of being some kind of closet psychopath for quite a while. Just so he'd fit in. Guy A. Person posted:Finished the first book on a plane last night.  mod edit: spoiler tags added Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Yeah, there's definitely a progression in community becoming more open as time goes on: first there's the outsider Elinor, then Queenie and Early show up and eventually find their place (with varying degrees of success) in the community... Lilah's marriage and departure feels like it puts the last nail in the coffin of the sternly ruled Caskey clan and the village's relative isolation both. I think I missed this angle simply because I attributed the isolation more to the oppressive rule of Mary-Love but then again she is a product of that culture as well. One nice thing about this thread is that it keeps showing what flew just past me somehow. e: Okay, I spoilered the event just to be sure. Now kindly do the same with your quote.
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trust me brah, you're not spoiled on the important stuff
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Mel Mudkiper posted:trust me brah, you're not spoiled on the important stuff Yeah I figured and don't care about spoilers that much anyway
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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah I figured and don't care about spoilers that much anyway Its very similar to 100 years of solitude where the first page has a family tree but its not who marries who thats interesting, its why and what is happening around them
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If people need spoiler tags added in somewhere feel free to shoot me a PM or file a report, it's about the only thing I use my post editing powers for
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If people need spoiler tags added in somewhere feel free to shoot me a PM or file a report, it's about the only thing I use my post editing powers for I've been kind of doing spoilers by percentages throughout the month. Like, now that we're in the last week I feel like everything but the last book is basically open for spoiler-free discussion
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No don't I was joking ahhhhh don't mess with the thread over my dumb joke
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Guy A. Person posted:No don't I was joking ahhhhh don't mess with the thread over my dumb joke but seriously though read the book and then tell the child loving thread to read it too
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Well finished it off a few days ago. It's certainly interested me in the Southern Gothic genre, but I am a little worried that it might end up a let down after this. Guess I'll pick up some Faulkner and see.
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team overhead smash posted:Well finished it off a few days ago. It's certainly interested me in the Southern Gothic genre, but I am a little worried that it might end up a let down after this. Guess I'll pick up some Faulkner and see. I don't think you can be disappointed with Faulkner ever unless river monsters is part of the appeal
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team overhead smash posted:Well finished it off a few days ago. It's certainly interested me in the Southern Gothic genre, but I am a little worried that it might end up a let down after this. Guess I'll pick up some Faulkner and see. Start with the Go Down, Moses short story collection. Relatively accessible for Faulkner and similar in theme(s).
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I'm only about halfway through the whole thing now, it's sweet reading.
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I know it's pretty much the end of the thread (give or take a week ), but none of the books I've been reading lately grab me, so I bought the book today. This thread makes me wish TBB had a non-Lovecraft/cosmic horror, non-King horror thread. Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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Franchescanado posted:This thread makes me wish TBB had a non-Lovecraft/cosmic horror, non-King horror thread. I am tempted to make a thread called THE SKELETON FACTORY about awesome horror book covers
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NPR has a bit on right now about 70s and 80s pulp horror. Grady Hendricks, "Paperbacks from Hell"
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:NPR has a bit on right now about 70s and 80s pulp horror. Grady Hendricks, "Paperbacks from Hell" Yeah thats how I found out about this book Its a really really fun read and I recommend it
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OK this thread has convinced me I should read this book, late but better than never eh?
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Franchescanado posted:I know it's pretty much the end of the thread (give or take a week ), but none of the books I've been reading lately grab me, so I bought the book today. For better or worse, the Cosmic Horror thread has become the general horror thread. I've considered pushing for a thread title change, or just starting a new thread. Too lazy/uninformed to write a good OP for a horror novel thread, though,.
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