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StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Atlas Hugged posted:

It's not like there's dozens of books across multiple worlds with a score of memorable villains and protagonists. You either love Kvothe or you don't. You either love paying for a fancy deck of cards or you don't.

Truth, like, Brandon Sanderson? Dude's done a billion things. It's entirely possible to say "Well, I didn't like X and Y, but Z was exactly what I wanted and I'm crazy about it." Lots of genre writers fit that bill. Being a Rothfuss fan means being a Kvothe fan, full stop.

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StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

SpacePig posted:

God, this is probably a big reason, isn't it? A bunch of beta incels who identify with Kvothe's "struggle" to woo and impress Denna, and thinking privately that she's his and nobody else's because there's nobody else "good enough" for her. And he's the kid who will tell of his teacher and be applauded for it, and accidentally be a very good wizard who even teachers admire, and gets to drag his bully constantly, whose only crime initially was hazing a newbie. Goddamn, I think this only just dawned on me somehow.

He's like r/thatHappened as a fantasy novel. "And then he made a cutting remark and the wizard teacher sputtered helplessly and was utterly shamed in front of his class and the class cheered and made him the teacher for life and gave him one hundred talents for being so awesome. And that student's name? KVOTHE EINSTEIN."

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

quote:

These books have been crafted. Nay, shaped.

Twenty bucks says the guy who wrote this has a broadsword on his bedroom wall, and can tell you at length how European swords are vastly superior to katanas. Nay, will tell you.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
So, uh, he found something new to do that isn't writing: http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/myth-or-monster

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

What we should be taking away from the Kingkiller adaptation is that it's entirely new material designed to cash off the franchise and not the actual books, which makes me suspect someone on that team figured out the books were poo poo flavored poo poo in a poo poo sandwich with extra poo poo on the side.

I figured it was more along the lines of "Wow, Pat, can't wait to do this show with you! Okay, so let's plan it out. How many seasons do we need? Three? How does this thing end, anyway?" "......." "Right. You have no idea. gently caress it, let's just make it about some bards or something."

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Dienes posted:

LKH was less the editor and more the tumultuous divorce. Don't write you and your hubby as the main character and love interest in a book series, folks.

And also don't write your polygamous lovers in as other characters in the same series.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Her name is initials in three parts.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Rime posted:

How much money can he possibly have at this point, though? The dude does not strike me as a savvy investor and we know he lost a ton on that stupid table startup. He's been living the high on the hog nerdlife for like a decade, his book sales must be dwindling, and the TV series seems dead. Surely he will have to pay back his advance on the third book if he doesn't poo poo something out in the near future?

Not going to happen. There's no sign that the book sales are slowing down, and there's no chance his publisher will make him pay back the advance as long as he's moving any copies at all. If they demand the advance back, that means the third book is officially canceled, and announcing/admitting that there's never going to be an ending would do more to kill sales of the first two than anything ever could. He's in the same boat as GRRM: their publishers may believe they'll never write another book in their natural lives (and probably do), but as long as they keep pretending otherwise, they can make money on the ones that have already been written by keeping them in print and promising the eventual conclusion.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Doctor Faustine posted:

https://www.ohjoysextoy.com/patrick-rothfus-charity-comic/

For anyone who ever wondered about the (completely irrelevant) sexuality of any of Rothfuss’ characters.

Merry Christmas, y’all.

I think I'm missing something, but I can't parse the end of that. "I guess I want someone who wants me for who I really am. Is there a name for that?" "People get that from a lot of different places. From friends. From family." "What if you don't have any of those? ... So, would anyone like a drink?" WTF is even being said there? The context is sex, so I hope he's not getting that from his family.

Also, love the ethereal dream-girl Auri noping out of the conversation. She is too pure and holy for sex, Rothfuss would feel his nerd-dreams sullied otherwise.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

quote:

In the comic, I caution newbies about the prevalence of racist cuckold material to be found on the internet. I personally see a distinction between racism and consensual race-play. Racism is bad! Thoughtfully playing with loaded power dynamics for mutual, consensual erotic stimulation is fine!

This is a situation where I think it might be okay to kink-shame.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Benson Cunningham posted:

It's okay though, because it's for charity.

The idea of a charity that exists to raise money for a different charity still seems weird to me, but maybe it's a common thing and I just don't know.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

al-azad posted:

Congratulations, you have discovered Rothfuss' personal notes for Tak, an amazing game that he did zero work on but still gets a design credit.

"So, Pat, this game you want us to make. How exactly does it play?"

"It's a beautiful game."

"Yeah, but we're gonna need a little more to go on. Like, rules, victory conditions?"

"Just make it beautiful, goddamnit! My pizza guy understands this, why can't you?"

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
I used to be sexually aroused by some things. But not anymore. Not anymore for the rest of my life.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Patware posted:

influential friends in writing, specifically

even if he's never actually used The Machine to damage people, he definitely could

And there's a built-in layer of defense. It doesn't matter if he never even hears about it, his stans are rabid; they'll go after a YouTuber/writer/whatever who dares to question his greatness in three parts.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Sham bam bamina! posted:

Don't worry, the third book is going to kick things into high gear any year now when Rothfuss gives up and asks Brandon Sanderson to write it for him.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Uncle Lloyd posted:

Brandon Sanderson trying to write like Rothfuss sounds like a total catastrophe, honestly.

And I will pay good money to read that catastrophe.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

HIJK posted:

Why does he sign other people’s books?

He bragged about doing the same thing a while ago,
walking through B&Ns and signing his name into random books and acting like a hero over it.

Because he's so full of himself he genuinely thinks people are going to be awed by finding his autograph in random-rear end books that have nothing to do with him.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

pentyne posted:

I really wonder what Rothfuss' wife feels about these things.

She brought it up to him once. Once. The silent, sullen stare, those nightmarish eyes, that quivering rage-filled beard, would be seared into her nightmares forever.

"I'm a feminist," he hissed, then turned his back on her.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Super-expensive custom furniture for a small, niche audience? Why, I can't imagine how anyone could lose money on a great investment like that!

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
That's some goddamn grade-a trolling. "It's around 22,000 words so I guess you'll have to wait until it gets published" is the piece de resistance.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

pentyne posted:

Did Rothfuss ever get on that cruiseship? Is he now banned from re entering the country for 2-4 weeks?

I saw other people on the ship announce that they were home, so there wasn't a quarantine on that one. It's the one ship that made it back. Really important because Rothfuss has a lot of work to do.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Marin Karin posted:

I genuinely forget this guy and Ernest Cline are different people. I always think, “Rothfuss’ poem about nerd porn was weird” before correcting myself

Rothfuss wants to gently caress the nerdy girl who didn't know he existed in high school. Ernest Cline wants to gently caress the 1980s.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Daric posted:

What’re the chances, realistically, that rothfuss writes another novel

Only if he runs out of money.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
He hates working and loves attention, to the point where he created a charity whose only purpose is to funnel money to another charity that already exists. There is no way he could write under a pen name and not drop so many hints it'd be obvious from day one.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Solice Kirsk posted:

This is the biggest flag. There's no way he wouldn't scream about anything new he's doing.

And then the pizza delivery guy came over and said "Wait a second, is that a new Patrick Rothfuss short story?! I'd recognize that beautiful prose anywhere!" And Pat aw-shucked and said yeaaah, you caught me, I AM Patrick Rothfuss and then the pizza delivery guy applauded and gave him a hundred dollars

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
His charity is literally "give me money, so I can take a cut and then give the rest to this other charity that already exists."

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

pseudanonymous posted:

They have 2.0 Ftes and they don’t have time to create an annual report that clarifies this? They do gently caress all with 4160 hours a year. What they’re saying is horseshit. Also they’re a loving 501c3 so they should be reporting it as revenue. It’s not like they would pay taxes.

Look he didn't want to actually learn anything about running a 501c3, he thought he could just wave a wand at a spreadsheet like a wizard and shout NUMBERS! and it would all just work on its own and it'd be fun. Actual effort and learning real skills is HARD.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Also, probably safe to assume that he hasn't been dropped by his publisher for the same reason GRRM hasn't: there's always the chance he might write another book, and they know that even if it's the worst thing since the Eye of Argon, it'll still sell like hotcakes thanks to people pre-ordering and grabbing it on launch day in droves.

If it turns out to be dogshit, though, the next one won't. Which leaves him positioned as a known prima donna and massive procrastinator whose years-overdue last book was a disaster. Good luck ever getting another contract. He probably figures the safest thing he can possibly do is tread water forever, and he's not wrong.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Imagine not deleting that post out of pure shame

I mean immediately, not after 2018

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
I'm not clear on why a dude who can literally travel to any imaginable parallel world and have any IRL experience he wants would be a massive D&D fan, but I also realize that's the absolute least-wrong thing about this shitshow.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Why would you put fireball in your freezer? Does it dull the taste so you can pretend you aren't drinking fireball?

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Goddamn. Even if we agree to pretend he's written anything in years (which no reasonable person would), "the best book I've read lately is the one I wrote" is breathtakingly arrogant.

Very on-brand.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
I honestly feel bad for Rothfuss sometimes. I mean, he's got a huge following of fans, a ton of people eagerly waiting for the third book (and if they're still fans after the second book, it's not like they have discerning taste), and he could (I assume) make some good money not to mention no longer being the butt of every single joke about late/delayed/nonexistent sequels. He has every reason to write the book and no reason not to. The fact that he can't even bring himself to write a single loving chapter for charity suggests he's got some very deep issues and could probably use some help to work through them, which I hope he gets someday.

Then I read about him behaving like a sleaze at conventions, or consider his constant lies to his fans, and think "Nah, actually gently caress this guy."

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Horizon Burning posted:

i'll never understand someone like rothfuss who gets success that just about everyone else would dream of, then get all publicly malding like this.

And he still has to take a second to point out that he's still in the top ten of reviewers on Goodreads (like that means anything), for that extra layer of whiny bitchiness. My brother in christ, most people would kill to have your life, and this is how you waste it.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

pentyne posted:

He definitely snapped when he was on Twitch trying to stream Fallout 4 and every comment was "where's book 3 dude"

The funniest thing about that was seeing at least four writers tweeting things like "Can't wait to play Fallout 4 tonight, after I'm done writing all day!" without mentioning or tagging Rothfuss at all. Didn't need to, everyone knew what they meant.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016
Being reminded of that mead/vikings thing just underscores what feels like a strenuous resistance in Rothfuss's work to knowing anything about anything. I'm not a musician so I can't speak to that, but musicians on this thread have commented about how shallow his grasp of music itself is (the string said SAD), and how Kvothe feels nothing like a working, practicing musician. I know a home-beer-brewing dude who loves all that fiddly poo poo in the brewing process, because learning that is what makes him good at brewing (and makes his beer good). I had the same experience learning to make bread during the pandemic, the learning is the fun part that makes you feel accomplished. If I just wanted to throw random ingredients in an oven and wave my hands over it, I could just microwave something and save the trouble.

Even his reference to mad scientists is headscratching because in most fiction, mad scientists are scholars who worked and studied their asses off and have leaps of intuition beyond normal people because they know so much, not because they eschew books and studying in favor of going ham with a chemistry set. Victor Frankenstein never said, "Aw, heck with all that dad-gum book-larnin'! I'm just gonna put a corpse on a kite, now hold my beer!"

Rothfuss seems to want to live in a training montage, where all the gains are shown in real quick clips over a rock song and then we cut to him knowing everything, producing the perfect mead with a wave of his cheeto-stained hand.

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StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

anilEhilated posted:

I think it's been established pretty strongly that Rothfuss doesn't understand music in the slightest.

He knows that there is a chord. A chord that says "sad."

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