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He mentioned the only thing we really did right was the cards. I’ll find out more Sunday when we play again!
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Oct 27, 2017 06:08
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Booyah- posted:I'm pretty sure my friends and I forgot knockback several times and it probably made a huge difference. Also just tactically I don't know if we had the right idea. Pushback and knockback can be very important. If you can trap a model against the edge so they can't be pushed back then you auto hit. You can push models off objective so they can't get back onto them. You can push models that have moved so they can't fight. You can push things from one board to another to deny objective cards.
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Oct 27, 2017 08:06
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I just opened the 'advanced' cards last night after playing 5 games or so and there is some really cool poo poo in there. The ploy that heals a Khorne Boy to full after killing a dude seems crazy.
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Oct 27, 2017 12:26
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Aww dammit. Shadespire is just out of reach for free shipping. I need to wait until one of the other Warbands releases to avoid spending another 30 dollars on nothing.
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Oct 28, 2017 03:01
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I was super sad to see that the expansion forces don't come with boards
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Oct 28, 2017 05:50
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Black_Nexus posted:I was super sad to see that the expansion forces don't come with boards Yeah you need a pal for that.
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Oct 28, 2017 06:11
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah you need a pal for that. Well, I am gonna buy everything. So it doesn't matter to me, but I have a bunch of friends who don't want stormcast or Bloodbound so they are kind of flip flopping between buying in at all
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Oct 28, 2017 06:38
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Black_Nexus posted:Well, I am gonna buy everything. So it doesn't matter to me, but I have a bunch of friends who don't want stormcast or Bloodbound so they are kind of flip flopping between buying in at all They will probably have boards for sale eventually at outrageous prices.
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Oct 28, 2017 06:52
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I've seen them parted out on ebay before, though there is nothing up in ebay uk at the moment.
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Oct 28, 2017 08:43
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Black_Nexus posted:Well, I am gonna buy everything. So it doesn't matter to me, but I have a bunch of friends who don't want stormcast or Bloodbound so they are kind of flip flopping between buying in at all If even one of your friends decides to get it you will have four boards at least.
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Oct 28, 2017 08:48
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If I preorder online and have it delivered to a store, does that mean I get it on release day?
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Oct 28, 2017 14:50
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Booyah- posted:If I preorder online and have it delivered to a store, does that mean I get it on release day? That’s what happened when I pre-ordered the base game.
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Oct 28, 2017 15:19
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MonsterEnvy posted:If even one of your friends decides to get it you will have four boards at least. I know, I would just buy the box and resell the minis since people around here want both warbands to use as proxies in their AOS armies
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Oct 28, 2017 16:20
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MonsterEnvy posted:Aww dammit. Shadespire is just out of reach for free shipping. I need to wait until one of the other Warbands releases to avoid spending another 30 dollars on nothing. They went up for preorder today.
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Oct 28, 2017 20:16
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:They went up for preorder today. Yep. I Ordered the Iron skulls. I will get the Skellies at a later date.
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Oct 28, 2017 20:28
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Black_Nexus posted:I know, I would just buy the box and resell the minis since people around here want both warbands to use as proxies in their AOS armies The Shadespire warbands have unique AoS rules that make them a bit better than their base class.
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Oct 28, 2017 20:35
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jodai posted:The Shadespire warbands have unique AoS rules that make them a bit better than their base class. Yeah the 100pt 3 person Liberators-on-crack unit that gets the shield re-roll (for having 1 shield in the unit) a Damage 3 hammer and some nifty special rules is pretty cool. The 60pt blood murder stabbers rules are here. quote:If Garrek Gorebeard slays an enemy model, you do not have to take a battleshock test for this unit that turn. In addition, at the end of any phase in which Garrek Gorebeard slays any enemy Heroes, add 1 to the Attacks characteristics of this unit’s melee weapons for the rest of the battle. Reavers++.
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Oct 28, 2017 20:49
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jodai posted:The Shadespire warbands have unique AoS rules that make them a bit better than their base class. Out of all of them, I think the Ironskull's Boyz are the best. Ironjaws can use a 80 point unit
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Oct 28, 2017 23:54
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Yeah I got my first game of this tonight and it kicks rear end. Definitely going to reserve literally everything as soon as my old army sells. Edit: I cant wait to glue red static grass to my
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Oct 29, 2017 06:59
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I am super into painting the blood bound so far, I love that all 5 are different looking and I don't have to paint any more of them after it. I also love the fact that the game just uses the warbands, and you can't use other older models so balance should technically be easier than AOS or 40k
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Oct 30, 2017 21:37
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I love Black Orcs and Skellies so I have bought those two sets. I kind of resent having to get the box with the Stormfront and Scarlet Chorus in order to be able to play but the minis do look quite cool and obviously I need the rules etc. And it’s a decently low price so I guess I’ll suck it up. Gonna get some more blandly handsome bare heads to put on the Stormfront minis as those helmets are so dull.
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Oct 31, 2017 16:56
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I ended up playing two games this past sunday, the first being against a first time player with the shop manager showing me everything he and I did wrong the previous week. Really fun game, ended up tying it up. Second game I played was Garreks Reavers vs. Garreks Reavers, with a more experienced player. Really fun, close game. He ended up losing in the end because he ended up charging Karsus and failing the attack with me having 3 activations remaining. Ended up killing his Karsus and his Garrek, and still moved up on objectives 3 and 5, which were my score cards. End of round 3 I score Annihilate, Score Objective 3 and Score Objective 5. Ended up winning something like 18-7. One thing I learned which is great - glory points still count toward the final score whether they've been spent or not. I've been hoarding them and not using upgrades because I thought if they were spend they didn't count, but nope! Here's an action shot from round 2. My boys have the blue on them. 
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ineptmule posted:I love Black Orcs and Skellies so I have bought those two sets. I kind of resent having to get the box with the Stormfront and Scarlet Chorus in order to be able to play but the minis do look quite cool and obviously I need the rules etc. And it’s a decently low price so I guess I’ll suck it up. You don't technically have to buy the core set unless you have no friends with it since the base game will support 2 players. I'd also expect components to be available on ebay soon, since some people will just be buying this for the minis.
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My club has quite a lot of Shadespire players already so I might be able to get away without buying the core box. Will see.
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It seems like the only downside of starting with just an expansion is that you don't have the full selection of cards to build your deck. For example the orcs objective cards don't include the standard "hold X objective" cards, so if you want those cards you'd need a core set. On the plus side you still get some duplicates from the core set and they have tailored the available cards pretty well it seems based on what I've read in unboxing videos.
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Booyah- posted:It seems like the only downside of starting with just an expansion is that you don't have the full selection of cards to build your deck. For example the orcs objective cards don't include the standard "hold X objective" cards, so if you want those cards you'd need a core set. On the plus side you still get some duplicates from the core set and they have tailored the available cards pretty well it seems based on what I've read in unboxing videos. It does seem like someone playing without all the cards would be at a disadvantage but I am not sure how much of one really
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Black_Nexus posted:It does seem like someone playing without all the cards would be at a disadvantage but I am not sure how much of one really Well, the best cards, from what I've seen so far are the faction-specific ones, as they seem to capitalize best on the strengths of the faction. So it remains to be seen how important having all the universal cards will be.
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FAQ: https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/warhammer_underworlds_shadespire_en.pdf Resolves a lot of the common points of confusion, even though most are already spelled out in the rules (if you read them).
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I think the only confusion my group ran into was for Righteous Strike. When you get to retry the failed attack against their leader, can you only do that once or does it loop until your attack succeeds?
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Booyah- posted:I think the only confusion my group ran into was for Righteous Strike. When you get to retry the failed attack against their leader, can you only do that once or does it loop until your attack succeeds? RAW the latter given that it states you attack with 'this attack' again, which has the special rule. But, that's bullshit so we don't play it that way because then why even bother rolling dice? The last ruling is interesting because it clarifies how some of the objectives work that I wasn't sure could be scored if an entire team was dead (like bulwark, or the one that says you have no enemy fighters adjacent to yours).
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bonds0097 posted:RAW the latter given that it states you attack with 'this attack' again, which has the special rule. But, that's bullshit so we don't play it that way because then why even bother rolling dice? That was our conclusion though we allowed the automatic hit. It's strong against their leader but the attack is useless against any other target, so maybe balanced as an upgrade?
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bonds0097 posted:Well, the best cards, from what I've seen so far are the faction-specific ones, as they seem to capitalize best on the strengths of the faction. So it remains to be seen how important having all the universal cards will be. That is how I feel as well, although it doesn't seem like the new decks get take objectives 1-5 so they might want those(Or they could have different objectives that are amazing? Who knows lol)
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Who is going to the first grand clssh tournament in Derby?
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Black_Nexus posted:That is how I feel as well, although it doesn't seem like the new decks get take objectives 1-5 so they might want those(Or they could have different objectives that are amazing? Who knows lol) The skellys get a couple dual objective cards where you have to hold 1+2 or 3+4 and get 2 glory points in return, seems good when you have the model count to do so.
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Booyah- posted:The skellys get a couple dual objective cards where you have to hold 1+2 or 3+4 and get 2 glory points in return, seems good when you have the model count to do so. That's pretty interesting. Looks like we're doing a local event/tourney the 11th which should be fun, lots of people are picking up the new warbands so should make for some decent variety. I will likely be boring and play sigmarites because they're the only warband I've painted so far.
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bonds0097 posted:That's pretty interesting. I am still working on getting more people in my group to play, I really want this game to succeed
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I've been playing this with the missus most evenings since release and it's really growing on me... I like how you can mess up in the first round, but still have a decent chance of making a comeback by the end The starting steps need to be outlined on the reference page on the back, but apart from that it only really took a few games to get up to speed. Looking forward to the skellymen and orcs this weekend!
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ineptmule posted:I love Black Orcs and Skellies so I have bought those two sets. I kind of resent having to get the box with the Stormfront and Scarlet Chorus in order to be able to play but the minis do look quite cool and obviously I need the rules etc. And it’s a decently low price so I guess I’ll suck it up. You could split the two starting forces and sell them for $25 each and make your money back, while still keeping the other components - the leaders are going for $18 each alone. The factions are actual units in AoS, and there are people who would be happy to take them off your hands.
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Yeah that’s not a bad call. I might just keep them as I kind of like the idea of having multiple faction options in case I introduce normal board game friends to it (if I can convince them to play a game with miniatures at all - it can be quite a challenge.)
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