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infernal machines posted:why does my computer get slow after it's been running for a few days? at least they show up on the dock instead of hiding away in the system tray
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carry on then posted:at least they show up on the dock instead of hiding away in the system tray actually yeah windows is starting to get really bad about this too
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Jun 8, 2018 18:27
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the macintosh operating system is incapable of true multitasking it is an elaborate facade built on 1985's Switcher
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Jun 8, 2018 18:35
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also crapple now shuts down apps with no windows when it needs ram, it was a feature they added the last time they redesigned the dock also lmao windows had a great setup and ruined it for tablet compatibility and to shove ads into the os
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Jun 8, 2018 18:35
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windowing hasn't changed significantly in windows since windows 7
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Jun 8, 2018 18:36
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my 2012 Mac mini running the latest Mac OS is very good, op
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Jun 8, 2018 18:38
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except for the cooling. that's terrible and inexcusable
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Jun 8, 2018 18:39
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Shaggar posted:windowing hasn't changed significantly in windows since windows 7 they added the wacky sorta okay split view tablet fullscreen window functionality like its okay on a tablet when i really need it but the only thing with the screen space for it is my desktop. same for ios and macos really so lol to all of the os on everything
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Jun 8, 2018 18:44
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the aero snap stuff was in windows 7. I think in 8 they just added the ability to resize stuff when its side by side. also in 10 you can snap to corners. but like those are all small evolutions on a feature that most users probably don't know about
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Jun 8, 2018 18:46
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windows 10 added virtual desktops and changed up the window switcher some more, but like shaggar said those have been in other linuxes for ages and aren't significant changes
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Jun 8, 2018 18:50
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oh I forgot about virtual desktops just like everyone else cause they're pointless
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Jun 8, 2018 18:51
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lol I forgot about your wrongpinions on vdi
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Jun 8, 2018 18:58
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Shaggar posted:windowing hasn't changed significantly in windows since windows 7 and that came out nine years ago, no surprise they haven't caught up to macOS, still the world's most advanced, sophisticated, and usable operating system
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Jun 8, 2018 19:04
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:lol I forgot about your wrongpinions on vdi boyo uses imacs as windows terminals, what do you expect?
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Jun 8, 2018 19:23
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Agile Vector posted:they added the wacky sorta okay split view tablet fullscreen window functionality uh actually that feature owns on desktop. assuming you are using the one true aspect ratio of 16:10.
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Jun 8, 2018 19:38
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Shaggar posted:oh I forgot about virtual desktops just like everyone else cause they're pointless iawtp having to use multiple desktops is a symptom of a poor ui and an unfocused workflow
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Jun 8, 2018 20:11
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Tiny brain: virtual desktops Normal brain: aero snap Enlightened brain: every window full screen Galaxy brain: window -> tile horizontally
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Jun 8, 2018 20:20
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different virtual desktops can accommodate different workflows for different tasks. there isn’t a universal flow
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Jun 8, 2018 20:20
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My students' dumbass micro brain: a graphics app shrunk to a window that takes up less than half the screen, somehow with palettes still obscuring the content, and nothing but the desktop in the background
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Jun 8, 2018 20:21
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Shifty Pony posted:uh actually that feature owns on desktop. see, my 16:10 is sideways at 10:16 which owns for web dev stuff but it doesnt do vertical stacks which slightly less owns so im resizing manually the snap stuff is handy tho and its one of those things i miss on other systems. macos doesnt quite have it right since it requires full then split screen but ive been using an app to emulate that functionality since like 10.4 so i dunno if it matters that its not native
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Jun 8, 2018 20:22
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I have three screens at work. It's nice?
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Jun 8, 2018 20:22
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virtual desktops are useless unless you can swipe between them with three fingers on God's own Magic Trackpad or using two fingers with Magic Mouse
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Jun 8, 2018 20:25
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Sagebrush posted:My students' dumbass micro brain: a graphics app shrunk to a window that takes up less than half the screen, somehow with palettes still obscuring the content, and nothing but the desktop in the background i had a teacher in high school who would open every file by going start > run > browse> locate the file > click okay > click run
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Jun 8, 2018 20:26
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Last Chance posted:virtual desktops are useless unless you can swipe between them with three fingers on God's own Magic Trackpad or using two fingers with Magic Mouse God holds down the thumb button on His mx master and moves it left or right.
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Jun 8, 2018 20:27
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Schadenboner posted:I have three screens at work. It's nice? it sure is. i was looking at how to get a fourth without anyone noticing right away so i could shove all my emails off further out of view
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Jun 8, 2018 20:27
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carry on then posted:God holds down the thumb button on His mx master and moves it left or right. thats more work
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Jun 8, 2018 20:29
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Cocoa Crispies posted:and that came out nine years ago, no surprise they haven't caught up to macOS, still the world's most advanced, sophisticated, and usable operating system osx is still in the 80s in terms of ui with its worst in class windowing
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Jun 8, 2018 20:47
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:lol I forgot about your wrongpinions on vdi both types of virtual desktops are terrible. one is a hack for bad Linux uis and the other is a waste of computing power.
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Jun 8, 2018 20:49
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Last Chance posted:leaving the app open with no windows is fine, but it sucks when apple disregards that paradigm randomly. terminating when there aren't any more windows open has been an encouraged behavior for years. i don't remember which version of OS X introduced it, but apps can opt into automatic termination, which lets the system automatically quit apps with no windows open. also, the system can keep the process alive so that if you relaunch, it's instantaneous, and it can quit the process for an offscreen or otherwise hidden app while keeping the running icon in the dock. there are other opt-in technologies like sudden termination (aka, my process can just be killed rather than going through the usual app teardown process) and window restoration that work alongside this to make it all invisible to the user apps with single main windows like Photos usually just explicitly terminate themselves when closed, though one of the OS X developer previews toyed with removing the running dot indicators on the dock by default to make it all more iOS-like so you didn't have to think about running processes for apps that supported this stuff, but they came back in the release version
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Jun 8, 2018 21:06
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I have come to like using OS x at work, but I really do hate the way windows work. It's my only real complaint about the software. The keyboard on my touch bar mbp otoh...
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Jun 8, 2018 21:21
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carry on then posted:i had a teacher in high school who would open every file by going start > run > browse> locate the file > click okay > click run at my previous company i'd watch people as they would meticulously copy text, navigate to the target document, and paste text... all with a mouse and windows context menus (even going as far as using that obnoxious formatting popup that office shoves in your face) by comparison, i barely used the mouse pointer on my mbp and they'd think i'm some sort of cyberpunk hacking god from swordfish just because i used basic keyboard shortcuts to speed up my workflow it was a constant reminder that people are dumber than we give them credit for
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Jun 8, 2018 21:23
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Hello Spaceman posted:at my previous company i'd watch people as they would meticulously copy text, navigate to the target document, and paste text... all with a mouse and windows context menus (even going as far as using that obnoxious formatting popup that office shoves in your face) 
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Jun 8, 2018 21:25
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i genuinely like aero snap over the os x two-up v0vHello Spaceman posted:at my previous company i'd watch people as they would meticulously copy text, navigate to the target document, and paste text... all with a mouse and windows context menus (even going as far as using that obnoxious formatting popup that office shoves in your face) the most used keyboard shortcut: ctrl-v paste the most used context menu item: paste etc. etc., the most used anything was "pasting" and folks used every hook possible to do it
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Jun 8, 2018 21:27
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Hello Spaceman posted:at my previous company i'd watch people as they would meticulously copy text, navigate to the target document, and paste text... all with a mouse and windows context menus (even going as far as using that obnoxious formatting popup that office shoves in your face) yeah, i get the same reaction when i'm flying away using the keyboard for everything. some of the professors have commented on how fast i type and i only get like 90, maybe 100wpm tops. and i've noticed a serious lack of keyboard shortcut knowledge among Kids These Days like, when i'm teaching people how to use solidworks or whatever, i will of course show them the menu option first because that's the obvious visual way to get it. but i will also introduce the shortcut alternatives and say "and later in the class, i'm going to be demoing things using these shortcuts, so you should get used to using them too and understanding what i'm doing when certain things just happen on screen", etc. this usually works pretty well. HOWEVER, the people teaching these kids photoshop and illustrator and all the stuff below my classes are just...holy poo poo guys get it together. i show something in photoshop in my advanced class, using techniques they should already know, and the kids are blindsided by e.g. ctrl-shift-n for a new layer or pressing V for the select tool or E for the eraser or [ ] to change brush sizes. some of them don't even know about holding the space bar to pan the view and are using the loving scroll bars. sometimes i'll even be caught in it -- they'll say "where do i find that tool?" and i'll go "honestly i don't even know, it's ctrl-shift-8" and they look at the keyboard like it's a hedgehog and gingerly try to press the keys and clearly hate it mad about computers
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Jun 8, 2018 21:34
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tell them to print out a keyboard chart for the main programs they'll be using and tape it next to their monitors like its a flight sim
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Jun 8, 2018 21:40
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that's not a bad idea tbh next semester i think i'm going to kick out anyone who doesn't have a mouse by the second class, too
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Jun 8, 2018 21:45
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Sagebrush posted:that's not a bad idea tbh What about trackballs? 
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Jun 8, 2018 22:09
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Schadenboner posted:What about trackballs? 
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JawnV6 posted:i genuinely like aero snap over the os x two-up v0v
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hobbesmaster posted:tell them to print out a keyboard chart for the main programs they'll be using and tape it next to their monitors like its a flight sim this works, unless you have a boss like mine who opens safari, ignores the google bar and will type "www.google.com" into the search bar.
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